Post: #1

I hesitate to write this, because I don't like to get too personal and I don't want to be called out as Beta.

But newbie board member "thegreenman" was asking about ways to escalate, and I realized that giving foot massages has always been a way for me to turn a chilly "Eh, let's sit and talk" into an open-armed "Oooo...come here!" (actual example).

I personally hate to have my feet touched, but for some reason, women seem to love it. Maybe it's because their shoes make their feet ache, or maybe it symbolizes something to them. Whatever the reason, when done right, a good foot rub can really change a woman's mood. It can change it more, I've found, than a backrub or a few drinks. And...it's a really good way to initiate body contact without doing the cliche arm-around-the-shoulder bit.

I've done this so much I didn't even think to bring it up before because it's second nature. But maybe an example from last week will prove useful to some of you.

I was sitting on my couch with a woman, me on one end, her on the other. She wanted to "talk" (i.e. complain about everything while I nodded). She had taken her shoes off and stretched out her legs. Her feet kept hitting my knee, then moving. Then she'd do it again. (I think this kind of thing is an IOI that a lot of guys might miss...including me in the past with other situations.)

At one point my hand was there and I just held onto her foot, started lightly rubbing, and didn't break the convo or even acknowledge what I was doing. And I hit paydirt.

I think there is a tendency in these parts to not want to do stuff like this because it's somewhat subservient. And you don't want to be the Beta orbiter giving foot rubs to "friends" (gag).

BUT...done right, this actually puts you in the driver's seat when the woman starts to "melt" (her words) to your touch. After you start with the feet, moving up the leg a bit sends a sexual message without being overt. You need to improvise on what works, but when talking stops and moaning starts, that's the sign you're doing it right.

So, thegreenman, if you're reading and someday you've got a woman who seems receptive but is too cool for her own good, this is a way to melt that heart of ice.

Post: #2

Post: #3

I've not tried foot rubs and I'm somewhat averse to touching feet so probably won't. It's good advice, though, I'm sure.

Head massages can work wonders though, probably for similar reasons, as long as you're not afraid to get stuck in and commit.

Post: #4

To be honest, I was like WTF is this? Then I saw DOBA write it and had to take a look.

I happen to have magic hands (women tell me this) and if you can do a good job they do melt.

A couple of weeks ago I was at a bar escalating. She was doing the hitting/punching stuff, she didn't like my jokes/negging. I'd massage (not her feet) her a bit to settle her down(she would melt) and when I stopped she begged for more. Each time I would feel more and more of her body (had to get something out of it, right?).

My group had to bounce, got her number.

But I agree with DOBA massages work.

Post: #5

Makes sense to me. Wish I could experiment with this but don't think it'd fly in this region of the world.

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To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #6

Def not a bad move if you've gotten her isolated (your place or hers) and you're having trouble ramping up the kino.

Post: #7

Not a bad idea from a logistical point of view either.
If you want to give a woman a massage with all the trimmings, then you'll need a bench, some oils and all the other good stuff that goes with it.
But for a foot massage, you don't need squat. Just a pair of hands and some technique.
Noted for future reference.

Post: #8

Per Wikipedia: "Because of the concentration of nerve endings in the sole and digits of the human foot, and possibly to the close proximity of the area of the brain dealing with tactile sensations from the feet and the area dealing with sensations from the genitals, the sensations produced by sucking or licking the feet can be pleasurable to some people. Similarly, massaging the sole of the foot produces similar stimulation. Many people are extremely ticklish in the foot area, especially on the bottom of the soles."

The feet are one of many erogenous zones that guys overlook.

Post: #9

so..if a new member made this post.We would hate him and call him beta.
But since a old member did it. it's okay..We can accept it as fact and clap for him.

hmm I understand


good data none the less.
it's true

Post: #10

I'm a big fan of massage game in general, mostly because I like getting massages. I think this would be killer in the right context.

I will have to try this next time I have a girl who just wants to chill out and talk. It would give me something to do with my hands while I pretend I'm listening.

I wouldn't try this if you are borderline beta or come off as a nice guy, but I am such a dick that I think this would work.

Reminds me of this:

Post: #11

women have easier times orgasming if wearing socks

http://elitedaily.com/dating/sex/wearing...30-orgasm/

Post: #12

Legit old school game. Sadly the number of women whose feet I will readily touch is not that high.

Post: #13

(06-19-2014 07:15 PM)calihunter Wrote:  women have easier times orgasming if wearing socks

http://elitedaily.com/dating/sex/wearing...30-orgasm/

From your source, emphasis mine:

Quote:The experiments also revealed a rather surprising effect: both men and women found it easier to have an orgasm when they kept their socks on. Drafts in the scanning room left couples complaining of “literally cold feet,” and providing a pair of socks allowed 80 percent rather than 50 percent to reach a climax while their brains were scanned.

Given the conditions of the experiment and that they were complaining about how cold their feet were, this is not a significant nor interesting finding.

I've always recommended massage and the right touch (both amount of pressure and location being key, especially in areas that wouldn't normally be seen as erogenous zones by your average dude). Good topic.

Post: #14

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I am still using the foot massage opener and have gotten a fistful of numbers and 5 lays as a direct result. When I get them back to my place it is a quick and easy excuse to get them to remove their shoes. Shoes first. Panties next. It seems all to simple.

I have also used the foot or body massage to wetten up a few other women and it works too. I am going to give the head rub a shot and see what gets faster results. Just mentioning a massage seems to get them moist. I will report back.

One other trick I regularly pull is to offer to rub their back. I tell them they need to lay on my lap so I can reach them. You guys know what is in their mouth within 10 minutes. This is a sure fire recipe for a blowjob. I will usually continue to rub her as she sucks me off. I reward them with positive reinforcement. She will associate this pleasure with sucking my cock and will do it even more. I guess it's like training a pet.