Post: #76

I'm not white and i'm not saying that latinos are all bad, parasitic, or anything like that but you just have to look at cities with latino majorities to see that it's probably not a good thing. It's because for whatever reason there's a multi-generational culture of the underclass that becomes rooted in these communities. They never really improve or become middle class they just become more violent and downtrodden until the city enacts a broad curfew over the whole barrio and the police and FBI contingent finally rolls in with swat tanks. The economy and crime index is usually off the charts in latino majority cities. Don't believe me? Just look around the Southern CA or Texas area. It's full of shithole cities that were once black ghettos that turned into latino ghettos. I think El Paso is the only latino majority city that manages to buck the trend but it's because of special circumstances.

People can chalk it up to lack of opportunity or whatever but I don't buy it. There are a lot of other immigrants who start out even poorer that managed to climb out of the underclass to at least middle class prosperity.

Miami is a good example of a relatively prosperous metro that is also latino majority and regularly makes the top 10 crime index rankings in the U.S.

Maybe some people's ultimate alpha fantasy is to have to roll out with body armor with a M4 racked in their car everytime they go out. Personally, I would not want to live in a neighborhood where I have to figure out defilades and fields of fire everytime I exit my front door.

Post: #77

Well, "third world shit-hole" is subjective, and it's pejorative, and I don't think using language like that really adds to the discussion.

But if you run a search for Venezuela, stories like this one show up on the first page.

For those of you too lazy to click the link, a man talks about how his girlfriend was kidnapped at gunpoint while driving, and taken to a dark alley to be raped. He went to the police, who demanded an exorbitant amount of money to even investigate the crime. So he tracked the man down and shot him.

"In the post, with over 480 comments and an 80 percent approval rate from redditors, the boyfriend acknowledges his own astonishment over his killer instinct. He says that after the episode, he realized he had subconsciously taken out years of recent hardships experienced in Venezuela on his girlfriend’s kidnapper:+

Getting robbed 2 times a week, not finding toilet paper, flour, sugar, having water outages, power outages, getting robbed by policemen who don’t earn enough money to live, everything is happening here in Venezuela. This stresses me out and makes me feel bad, because I unleashed all that on him. That makes me feel even worse. Some people here say, “Good for you, I would have done the same.” But I bet you wouldn’t. You have to live here, under these circumstances to truly be at the point where you do that kind of stuff. I am sorry if I sicken some of you. I feel that same way about me."


This isn't me cherry-picking some obscure bottom of the barrel story from 8 years ago, it's dated from last week and appeared on the first page of my search.
You're free to cry racist all you like, but is it seriously a mystery why we would not want large numbers of people from this society moving here?

Post: #78

The only Hispanics voting for the GOP are Cubans bc the Cuban Americans are very anti-Communist. All other Hispanics will vote democrat regardless of their traditional ways. Middle and upper class blacks are traditional and have lots of wealth yet they too vote democrat. Asians as well. The party of diversity and multiculturalism is always going to win the votes of non-whites. They will always out pander the GOP. The GOP is doomed because of demographics.

Post: #79

He was doing good at supporting his argument until he said this;

"◾In Plyler v. Doe (1982), the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional to deny undocumented immigrants K-12 public education."

"Fourteen states offer free prenatal and postnatal care to pregnant women who are the country illegally. Some state legislators justify these benefits as long-term cost-saving measures, others as being consistent with pro-life beliefs. Low-income women with children under 5 are also eligible for WIC benefits regardless of immigration status"

"◾American-born children of undocumented immigrants are eligible for benefits like Medicaid and food stamps."

"It also barred legal immigrants from eligibility for welfare benefits during their first 5 years in the country."
-He's trying to sell legal immigration as a disadvantage, but remember that those legal immigrants aren't taxed during that time period either.

"The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration estimates that unauthorized immigrants received $4.2 billion in child tax credits in 2010. There is currently no legal mechanism that bans unauthorized immigrants from child tax credit refunds (although they are banned from refunds related to the Earned Income tax credit)."

Wait, so they are drawing benefits of a wide variety? Who knew.

Here's some founded drawbacks to illegal immigration:

It increases crime in at least two ways. One, by creating direct competition for criminal leaving prison, increasing repeat offenders:

http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/411778_...prison.pdf

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-factors-aff...-rates.htm

Two, illegal immigration imports crime:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/natio...a/2042345/

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/...drug-gangs

http://cis.org/ImmigrantGangs

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Gang...520854.php

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/worl...0_ST_N.htm

Post: #80

(06-11-2014 11:26 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 09:21 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  Yes you can live in the USA without paying taxes. That's why they work under the table. No one can track your earnings if they don't have proof that you even exist from lacking job on paper and a birth certificate.

Have you worked without paying taxes?

If not, then one cannot really give an opinion without having any first hand experience.

I knew a few guys in what's referred to as the Nutbush neighborhood of Memphis. A lot of the people living in those neighborhoods have one legal relative or handler living by the books and the rest of the household will be completely off the grid.

I'm not some worked up honky behind a keyboard, I have first person experience in a largely black city with a sizable Hispanic population.

Post: #81

(06-11-2014 08:27 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  lol Midwest.

I guess as a "minority" you feel that you're a protected class and righteous anger that a filthy white devil would dare cause you discomfort in the progressive, new, modern America.

A protected class?? Righteous anger?? huh? If someone talks greasy about you, your identity or your ethnic background, you are just going to stand there and take it? I highly doubt that.

Quote:Playing basketball as a white boy in urban America, I've heard it all. I've been stolen from, treated like shit because of how I look, and race taunted, among other things I don't want to discuss, but this is literally the first time I've ever discussed this on this forum and its to make a point. It hasn't made me hate all black people or hold it against them that I know they are generally extremely racist towards white people, especially when they don't think white people are around.

I'm really sorry to hear that I really am, but I never said on this forum that because of racist remarks I hated whites. I know the vast majority of whites are not racists. You're projecting that onto me, I never said that. Also saying that Blacks are generally extremely racist towards whites is a huge statement to make. I highly doubt that, but whatever. The majority of my friends are white, but that doesn't mean that whenever a white person says something sleazy against Latinos i'm going to let it slide! You shouldn't either when its against whites.

Quote:The facts are the facts. Mexicans vote for the same failed policies as the places they are fleeing from. To be pro-amnesty is to be anti-traditional American values.

This is probably the only issue that Hispanics disagree with Republicans, because when it comes to social issues, us Hispanics generally have very conservative views. Come on dude, I know my people very well

Quote:The thing is, you believe opposing illegal immigration is racist because its your people who happen to be the illegal immigrants. Are anti-immigrant blacks in Africa racist for opposing the mass immigration of chinese settlers? No. They are defending their land from foreign invaders. Same in Europe with regards to Arabs immigrating in large numbers and refusing to assimilate.

I agree, every country in the world has the right to defend its borders. I'm not disputing that. What gets me ticked is the fact that people are already here anyway and they still bash them when they know they're not going anywhere. 11 million illegal immigrants are already here, what are we going to do with them? You don't actually think we should round them all up and deport them all do you? They are already working here anyway. There's too many negative attacks on illegals but almost no word on the employers who hire them for cheap labor. If employers didn't hire them,they wouldn't be here in the first place. And the Arabs in France do want to assimilate, the French just don't want to because they are afraid that they are going to lose their culture.

Quote:*Notice that according to Midwest all the people who voted for Brat are "old white racists" because they felt Brat would possibly get our government to enforce laws that are already on the books. So, according to Midwest, holding our government accountable for refusing to uphold the law is "racist". And notice how because he's heard white people say a few racist comments, he has a deep disgust for all white people who vote against his people politically and labels them all white racists.

Whose really the racist here?

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that I have deep disgust for white people or any people for that matter. The comment about "old white racists", the people that Brat represents are perceived to be "old white racists" based on the kind of negative rhetoric comments they make against Hispanics, so sorry, that's just how our community sees them.

Even George W. Bush during his last press conference when Obama won was asked, "Do you think the Republican party needs to be more inclusive, if so what would you change?" He responded with "The image is that all Republicans don't like immigrants. Fair or unfair that's the image" then he goes on to say "Well, if the image is that Republicans don't like immigrants, then there's probably somebody else out there saying 'they don't like immigrants, so they probably don't like me as well' and that's the image we have to reverse in our party"


I guess we can agree to disagree.

Post: #82

I've asked on here a few times before, and once in this thread, and I still have never gotten an answer.

What is it that makes the Republican Party or the TEA Party "not inclusive"? Do only white people want lower taxes, safer neighborhoods, better schools, more financial freedom and better family structures? I don't believe this to be the case.

So what is it that the Republican Party or even the TEA Party says/does that is "not inclusive"?

All I see is a liberal feminist main stream media that wants to destroy men and make them work horses for women, aka what we all know as modern feminism, spreading these lies. And just believing these lies is a huge mistake. But maybe I am missing something.

Post: #83

(06-12-2014 02:55 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I've asked on here a few times before, and once in this thread, and I still have never gotten an answer.

What is it that makes the Republican Party or the TEA Party "not inclusive"? Do only white people want lower taxes, safer neighborhoods, better schools, more financial freedom and better family structures? I don't believe this to be the case.

So what is it that the Republican Party or even the TEA Party says/does that is "not inclusive"?

All I see is a liberal feminist main stream media that wants to destroy men and make them work horses for women, aka what we all know as modern feminism, spreading these lies. And just believing these lies is a huge mistake. But maybe I am missing something.

The republican party is a lot more likely to have a litmus test for whether you a real republican than the democratic party is on their views. Here's an op-ed by a republican immigrant about why the republican party needs to be more inclusive. The Cantor race itself shows the republican party's lack of inclusiveness. I think he was the last Jewish republican congressman as well.

As far as the ambiguous and hard to define tea party not being inclusive, it's hard to not associate parts of the "tea party" with the fringes of the conservative side that are sure Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim. I don't like throwing this the term around, but I do think those beliefs are just thinly veiled racism.

The political reality is at some point, some form of amnesty is going to happen and the republican party is just going to further marginalize itself if it tries to stop this.

Post: #84

^^^^

The entire intellectual framework of the American Left is in the above post. You're racist.

Post: #85

I'm going to take a step back and try to avoid political posts on the forum ongoing, but I do think with Roosh's nod to conservatives in his latest article it's a valid discussion here.

I'm at a point in my political views where I wish I could be a republican. I'm jaded with government management and bureaucracy. I believe in competition and free markets and the value of self-interest. I'm anti-affirmative action and race based quotas. I'm fed up of with the progressive PC police.

But outside of Arnold or maybe Jon Huntsman I can't see any republican that comes close to being acceptable or rational.

Post: #86

Actually I believe this really explains why the TEA Party doesn't have much appeal to younger voters...It's not a race thing, it's really a generational thing. The older generation just happens to be "more white":

/thread-32301....nerational

The TEA Party is about cutting government spending...Why? In large part to preserve what's left of the budget for transfers to older Americans (Medicare, Social Security).

Post: #87

(06-12-2014 12:52 PM)tpiddy Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 02:55 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I've asked on here a few times before, and once in this thread, and I still have never gotten an answer.

What is it that makes the Republican Party or the TEA Party "not inclusive"? Do only white people want lower taxes, safer neighborhoods, better schools, more financial freedom and better family structures? I don't believe this to be the case.

So what is it that the Republican Party or even the TEA Party says/does that is "not inclusive"?

All I see is a liberal feminist main stream media that wants to destroy men and make them work horses for women, aka what we all know as modern feminism, spreading these lies. And just believing these lies is a huge mistake. But maybe I am missing something.

The republican party is a lot more likely to have a litmus test for whether you a real republican than the democratic party is on their views. Here's an op-ed by a republican immigrant about why the republican party needs to be more inclusive. The Cantor race itself shows the republican party's lack of inclusiveness. I think he was the last Jewish republican congressman as well.

As far as the ambiguous and hard to define tea party not being inclusive, it's hard to not associate parts of the "tea party" with the fringes of the conservative side that are sure Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim. I don't like throwing this the term around, but I do think those beliefs are just thinly veiled racism.

The political reality is at some point, some form of amnesty is going to happen and the republican party is just going to further marginalize itself if it tries to stop this.

I don't like clicking on links to other sites due to viruses and such, so if you want to copy and paste it that would be great. Would be nice to see what this person has to say.

I've been around politics and such things my entire life and I have never once heard of the term "real Republican" or a litmus test to be one. There are many things I disagree with the Republicans on. I am a libertarian myself. The only reason I would take Republican over Democrat is because of lower taxes on the middle class, better economic ideas, and they are not the feminist party.

Cantor was a guy who largely ignored his constituents in Virginia because he has bigger plans. He went against his constituents desires, he tried to mess with the local lower level politicians and throw some of them out. And he paid the price for being over confident in winning reelection. He is there to represent his district and his constituents do not think he did a good job. I believe he is in his 7th term, so to claim it is due to racism or anti-semitism has no merit.

The Tea Party has never had an official stand on Obama not being born in the USA. Some of their members? Sure. Both the Republicans and Democrats have their extremists, it doesn't represent the entire party. Look at some of the crazies in the Democratic party. It goes both ways.

I don't know if amnesty will happen or not. I do know that our economy simply cannot afford it, and if you are a non-Elite, it will hit you hard in the pocket book. I do know you have three choices in the US elections...

#1) Republicans and a stronger economy so a chance at making money here and traveling overseas.

#2) Democrats - socialist feminist state where men are 2nd class citizens and the economy crushes small business and opportunities for men.

#3) Third Party - Gary Johnson, look into him. He would probably match up with 95% of this forum in his beliefs. Both parties were terrified of him in 2012 and refused to let him into the debates because he would have made the two major parties look like fools.

Post: #88

(06-12-2014 01:14 PM)tpiddy Wrote:  I'm going to take a step back and try to avoid political posts on the forum ongoing, but I do think with Roosh's nod to conservatives in his latest article it's a valid discussion here.

I'm at a point in my political views where I wish I could be a republican. I'm jaded with government management and bureaucracy. I believe in competition and free markets and the value of self-interest. I'm anti-affirmative action and race based quotas. I'm fed up of with the progressive PC police.

But outside of Arnold or maybe Jon Huntsman I can't see any republican that comes close to being acceptable or rational.

Exactly. As an upper middle class Asian-American, I just can't see myself voting for a party that is so anti-science. The religious shit is driving me away.

Post: #89

(06-12-2014 12:47 AM)Faust Wrote:  Well, "third world shit-hole" is subjective, and it's pejorative, and I don't think using language like that really adds to the discussion.

But if you run a search for Venezuela, stories like this one show up on the first page.

For those of you too lazy to click the link, a man talks about how his girlfriend was kidnapped at gunpoint while driving, and taken to a dark alley to be raped. He went to the police, who demanded an exorbitant amount of money to even investigate the crime. So he tracked the man down and shot him.

"In the post, with over 480 comments and an 80 percent approval rate from redditors, the boyfriend acknowledges his own astonishment over his killer instinct. He says that after the episode, he realized he had subconsciously taken out years of recent hardships experienced in Venezuela on his girlfriend’s kidnapper:+

Getting robbed 2 times a week, not finding toilet paper, flour, sugar, having water outages, power outages, getting robbed by policemen who don’t earn enough money to live, everything is happening here in Venezuela. This stresses me out and makes me feel bad, because I unleashed all that on him. That makes me feel even worse. Some people here say, “Good for you, I would have done the same.” But I bet you wouldn’t. You have to live here, under these circumstances to truly be at the point where you do that kind of stuff. I am sorry if I sicken some of you. I feel that same way about me."


This isn't me cherry-picking some obscure bottom of the barrel story from 8 years ago, it's dated from last week and appeared on the first page of my search.
You're free to cry racist all you like, but is it seriously a mystery why we would not want large numbers of people from this society moving here?

Do you know countries like Iran, Cuba, Niger, Bangladesh and Lebanon have a lower crime rate (homicide %) than the US? But what do you hear about them on TV, or when read about them on the internet?

It's hard to pick a story randomly online without looking at hard facts.

Post: #90

(06-12-2014 02:44 PM)GenghisKhan Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 01:14 PM)tpiddy Wrote:  I'm going to take a step back and try to avoid political posts on the forum ongoing, but I do think with Roosh's nod to conservatives in his latest article it's a valid discussion here.

I'm at a point in my political views where I wish I could be a republican. I'm jaded with government management and bureaucracy. I believe in competition and free markets and the value of self-interest. I'm anti-affirmative action and race based quotas. I'm fed up of with the progressive PC police.

But outside of Arnold or maybe Jon Huntsman I can't see any republican that comes close to being acceptable or rational.

Exactly. As an upper middle class Asian-American, I just can't see myself voting for a party that is so anti-science. The religious shit is driving me away.

Right, because a party that preaches "Gender is a social construct" is clearly scientific.

I love reading the rationales people have for voting democrat, they get more and more ridiculous every year.

Post: #91

Bottom line is this country is splitting apart politically. Too many generations of non-whites are brainwashed into thinking all whites are racist so the end-game is civil war. Large parts of Republican country will break away as soon as this country goes bankrupt, there's no stopping the inevitable. And of course, they will be mostly white, through no fault of their own.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-12...ide-charts

Post: #92

The USA should invade Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador and then start relocating at least 50 million of our prisoners/criminals, low skilled unemployed, and welfare masses to the conquered territory. We'll rename the territory "New Australia." I believe these people, who are looking for a better life, will help the culture and the economies of those areas.

I expect the people living in those areas to welcome these relocating people and provide them free education, free healthcare, free housing, free food, the right to vote, etc. and to do it with a smile on their faces.

Post: #93

(06-12-2014 02:58 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 02:44 PM)GenghisKhan Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 01:14 PM)tpiddy Wrote:  I'm going to take a step back and try to avoid political posts on the forum ongoing, but I do think with Roosh's nod to conservatives in his latest article it's a valid discussion here.

I'm at a point in my political views where I wish I could be a republican. I'm jaded with government management and bureaucracy. I believe in competition and free markets and the value of self-interest. I'm anti-affirmative action and race based quotas. I'm fed up of with the progressive PC police.

But outside of Arnold or maybe Jon Huntsman I can't see any republican that comes close to being acceptable or rational.

Exactly. As an upper middle class Asian-American, I just can't see myself voting for a party that is so anti-science. The religious shit is driving me away.

Right, because a party that preaches "Gender is a social construct" is clearly scientific.

I love reading the rationales people have for voting democrat, they get more and more ridiculous every year.

Do you really believe in ALL of the policies in your political party? Because that is really stupid.

Most people vote in order of issues they find most important.

Post: #94

(06-12-2014 03:00 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Bottom line is this country is splitting apart politically. Too many generations of non-whites are brainwashed into thinking all whites are racist so the end-game is civil war. Large parts of Republican country will break away as soon as this country goes bankrupt, there's no stopping the inevitable. And of course, they will be mostly white, through no fault of their own.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-12...ide-charts

What's with all the doom gloom predictions?

1. Not all non-whites are brainwashed into thinking all whites are racist. Say what you want to say about us, but most millennials get along just fine racially. They are overreacting PC news, but outside of that, race relations have generally been better.

2. This country will not go bankrupt. Even Europe will not go bankrupt. The economy is slowly continuing to improve. The unemployment rate is down, job #s look a lot better than it was. Even the US debt is stabilizing. In fact, you rarely hear even conservatives talk about it.

3. There will be no civil war

Don't take the news too seriously. Things are better than what they make it sound

Post: #95

(06-12-2014 03:32 PM)GenghisKhan Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 02:58 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 02:44 PM)GenghisKhan Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 01:14 PM)tpiddy Wrote:  I'm going to take a step back and try to avoid political posts on the forum ongoing, but I do think with Roosh's nod to conservatives in his latest article it's a valid discussion here.

I'm at a point in my political views where I wish I could be a republican. I'm jaded with government management and bureaucracy. I believe in competition and free markets and the value of self-interest. I'm anti-affirmative action and race based quotas. I'm fed up of with the progressive PC police.

But outside of Arnold or maybe Jon Huntsman I can't see any republican that comes close to being acceptable or rational.

Exactly. As an upper middle class Asian-American, I just can't see myself voting for a party that is so anti-science. The religious shit is driving me away.

Right, because a party that preaches "Gender is a social construct" is clearly scientific.

I love reading the rationales people have for voting democrat, they get more and more ridiculous every year.

Do you really believe in ALL of the policies in your political party? Because that is really stupid.

Most people vote in order of issues they find most important.

And there is nothing more important than the economy. All the other things become pretty insignificant when you can't feed yourself or your kids.

We've already seen the outcome of feminist liberal socialism around the world. It is a miserable failure at best, and giant prison countries with death camps at the worst.

I disagree with a lot of things the Republicans stand for. But I can't think of a legit excuse to be voting for the feminist socialist Democratic party. Most this forum is talking about how to either avoid feminist pit falls, or to leave the USA behind to get away from the feminism. So how can you vote to have more feminism in your life.

Post: #96

(06-12-2014 03:39 PM)GenghisKhan Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 03:00 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Bottom line is this country is splitting apart politically. Too many generations of non-whites are brainwashed into thinking all whites are racist so the end-game is civil war. Large parts of Republican country will break away as soon as this country goes bankrupt, there's no stopping the inevitable. And of course, they will be mostly white, through no fault of their own.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-12...ide-charts

LMAO. What's with all the doom gloom predictions?

1. Not all non-whites are brainwashed into thinking all whites are racist. That's ridiculous.

2. This country will not go bankrupt. Even Europe will not go bankrupt. The economy is slowly continuing to improve. The unemployment rate is up, job #s look a lot better than it was. Even the US debt is stabilizing. In fact, you rarely hear even conservatives talk about it.

3. There will be no civil war

Don't take the news too seriously. You sound so bitter.

Actually the economy is in serious bad shape. This is one thing I follow closely, it just interests me...

#1) The unemployment numbers are a false representation of nothing. They have been manipulated by our govt. to win political agendas. The true number to look at is work force participation rate, and we are the lowest we have been since women started to work outside the house.

#2) The economy contracted a full 1% for 1st quarter 2014. This is terrible news and no good way to spend it. We have spent this much money, and now we have nothing in return.

#3) 47,000,000 Americans right now have to get food stamps to feed themselves.

#4) We can't borrow money forever, ask Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and soon the rest of Europe. Don't believe me, go to youtube and type in "Greece Austerity" and see how they are living over there now. Our debt to GDP is not far off from where they are, and we will be cut off from borrowing as well.

#5) This is without amnesty, which will introduce 10,000,000 to 15,000,000 new food stamp recipients and medicaid recipients.

#6) The debt is not stabilizing. We are still borrowing hundreds of billions a year to stay float and with no end in sight. Eventually this will be cut off by the bankers.

One thing for certain, the economy is in very bad shape and it is getting worse by the year. At this point in time the USA is basically unemployed and living off of credit cards.

Post: #97

(06-12-2014 03:39 PM)GenghisKhan Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 03:00 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Bottom line is this country is splitting apart politically. Too many generations of non-whites are brainwashed into thinking all whites are racist so the end-game is civil war. Large parts of Republican country will break away as soon as this country goes bankrupt, there's no stopping the inevitable. And of course, they will be mostly white, through no fault of their own.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-12...ide-charts

What's with all the doom gloom predictions?

1. Not all non-whites are brainwashed into thinking all whites are racist. Say what you want to say about us, but most millennials get along just fine racially. They are overreacting PC news, but outside of that, race relations have generally been better.

2. This country will not go bankrupt. Even Europe will not go bankrupt. The economy is slowly continuing to improve. The unemployment rate is down, job #s look a lot better than it was. Even the US debt is stabilizing. In fact, you rarely hear even conservatives talk about it.

3. There will be no civil war

Don't take the news too seriously. Things are better than what they make it sound

You also represent one of the major reasons the USA is heading towards civil war:

Complete ignorance of the actual state of the country. When, after just a few days, your money is worth 50-100% less, what are you going to do about it?

Post: #98

(06-11-2014 02:26 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 01:36 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 06:39 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 05:19 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 04:03 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Hispanics by and large are conservatives. They believe in hard work and strong family values. At least that is what I have seen from many of them. Hard workers and good family structure.

Keeping labor down is what elitists want. They run big business, and keeping labor down makes them more money and helps destroy their small business competition. Elitists are big govt. supports who know they can best keep labor down with a growing govt. to destroy small business.

Hispanics are under the enchantment of "Caudilloism"

Hispanics believe in strong-men and authoritism, less in the individual strength of ordinary yeomen in a Jeffersonian sense, which is the philosophical reasoning behind the 2nd amendment. self-reliant, intelligent, educated men, each one equally capable. This is very Anglo-Saxon and has its roots in the Germanic warrior culture, and it shines in the poetry of Beowulf and the Icelandic Sagas. The mottos of Latin American states put their faith in concepts like "order" and "progress" as if they were phenomena dependent on a strong government for momentum.

Hispanics are hard ass workers. I myself worked in a vineyard picking grapes with them. They are hospitable and funny.

But theirs is a different culture from that distinct Anglo-Saxon/Germanic version that lays at the root of what was American culture from 1620 to around now, and what the founding fathers understood our society to consist of (and hence how our institutions were designed). As the English-German heritage of America is replaced by a Latin or alternative heritage, it is clear so will other aspects of our political life. This need not necessarily be bad, but experience tells us it probably will be so from our perspective. Strong free markets and an absence of government intrusion requires that the people are able to govern and defend themselves. See Tocqueville.

All that is changing now. Demography is destiny.



I'd say the political culture of any ethnic group can be changed, but it requires assimilation.

The rate of assimilation is inversely proportional to the intensity of immigration, ie. no. of immigrants in a given area to total population, and rate of new arrivals, percentage of a social network of similar ethnicity to oneself, and cultural distance.

The more different the culture, the fewer immigrants you can handle at a time, the more important it is to not let the concentrate in any one area.

That's why China town is so distinctly different. Very different culture + many Chinese at once = ghetto.

It's what happened with the Irish and Italian immigrants and is why Chicago, New York, Boston and Providence are still renouned for their corrupt political class. And that assimilation only really began to work after a full stop on immigration, and these guys are still more corrupt than Scandinavian-Americans, German-Americans or English-Americans.

The US could perhaps handle 10 million Hispanics. Not 60 million. Not in a million years. We can barely handle 40 million African-Americans. And one reason why African_Americans are havign such a tough time of it is because they're not in high demand as farm hands, because Hispanics depress farm wages. The best scenario would be earning 40USD an hour as a farm hand in the US, which is possible due to high productivity, just not necessary due to high labor supply. It would be far less attractive to be a criminal if you could 8,000 dollars a month using your physical strength working outdoors.

It is also depressing to read. Because if the USA does turn into another 3rd world socialist hellhole,

Without a strong USA, the entire world will become violent.

See! This is what I'm trying to say! It's rhetoric like this that makes Hispanics vote Democrat or vote for who in their eyes is perceived as less racist.

So as a Hispanic American myself, how am I contributing to the US becoming a 3rd world socialist hellhole???? I really want to hear this.

But if you vote for the Democrat Party, or the real name... Socialist Feminist Party, then you are most definitely contributing to the US becoming a 3rd world socialist hellhole.

We cannot afford this spending. I'm not saying the Republicans have it all right, or they are even all that much better. But we simply cannot afford all this spending and waste of a giant federal govt. We are heading 100 MPH off the cliff to where Greece is today. The only way to stop it is to stop the spending and reduce the govt., the opposite of what the Democrats want.

The GOP will get us off the cliff at 25 mph. The Democrats have a brick stuck on the pedal. Unfortunately there are way too many people and special interest groups invested in the big government paradigm. Both parties are socialist but the GOP at least has some good members.

The Democrats are mini-Lenins and Trotskys. They believe every problem is solved by government. Look at their typical professions: Trial Lawyers, Professors and now community organizers. Very few of them have actually contributed anything to society. The Democrats tend to be misanthropic scum.

If you vote for the Democrats, you're essentially voting for making your country into a feminist/hard left/anti-man/anti civilization totalitarian hell-hole. In many ways the Democrats have already succeeded in doing so.

I'm not anti-immigrant but I am anti- illegal immigration and totally opposed to any welfare for first generation immigrants. Eliminating the welfare state in its entirety would go a long way toward improving the type of immigrant that comes here.

Post: #99

It seems that quite a bit of projection goes on here. If you hold resentful racial sentiments, you start thinking everyone else is racist.

I'd like to the think the opposite, most people are not racist and actually have a lot in common with each other.

The tea party might be a really good thing in the US, they will be an integral part in keeping debt spending from ballooning. I bet they can do it without race trolling too. They don't have to pander, just not race troll. And the votes will come their way from all directions.

Post: #100

(06-12-2014 03:58 PM)Hyperion Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 02:26 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 01:36 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 06:39 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 05:19 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  Hispanics are under the enchantment of "Caudilloism"

Hispanics believe in strong-men and authoritism, less in the individual strength of ordinary yeomen in a Jeffersonian sense, which is the philosophical reasoning behind the 2nd amendment. self-reliant, intelligent, educated men, each one equally capable. This is very Anglo-Saxon and has its roots in the Germanic warrior culture, and it shines in the poetry of Beowulf and the Icelandic Sagas. The mottos of Latin American states put their faith in concepts like "order" and "progress" as if they were phenomena dependent on a strong government for momentum.

Hispanics are hard ass workers. I myself worked in a vineyard picking grapes with them. They are hospitable and funny.

But theirs is a different culture from that distinct Anglo-Saxon/Germanic version that lays at the root of what was American culture from 1620 to around now, and what the founding fathers understood our society to consist of (and hence how our institutions were designed). As the English-German heritage of America is replaced by a Latin or alternative heritage, it is clear so will other aspects of our political life. This need not necessarily be bad, but experience tells us it probably will be so from our perspective. Strong free markets and an absence of government intrusion requires that the people are able to govern and defend themselves. See Tocqueville.

All that is changing now. Demography is destiny.



I'd say the political culture of any ethnic group can be changed, but it requires assimilation.

The rate of assimilation is inversely proportional to the intensity of immigration, ie. no. of immigrants in a given area to total population, and rate of new arrivals, percentage of a social network of similar ethnicity to oneself, and cultural distance.

The more different the culture, the fewer immigrants you can handle at a time, the more important it is to not let the concentrate in any one area.

That's why China town is so distinctly different. Very different culture + many Chinese at once = ghetto.

It's what happened with the Irish and Italian immigrants and is why Chicago, New York, Boston and Providence are still renouned for their corrupt political class. And that assimilation only really began to work after a full stop on immigration, and these guys are still more corrupt than Scandinavian-Americans, German-Americans or English-Americans.

The US could perhaps handle 10 million Hispanics. Not 60 million. Not in a million years. We can barely handle 40 million African-Americans. And one reason why African_Americans are havign such a tough time of it is because they're not in high demand as farm hands, because Hispanics depress farm wages. The best scenario would be earning 40USD an hour as a farm hand in the US, which is possible due to high productivity, just not necessary due to high labor supply. It would be far less attractive to be a criminal if you could 8,000 dollars a month using your physical strength working outdoors.

It is also depressing to read. Because if the USA does turn into another 3rd world socialist hellhole,

Without a strong USA, the entire world will become violent.

See! This is what I'm trying to say! It's rhetoric like this that makes Hispanics vote Democrat or vote for who in their eyes is perceived as less racist.

So as a Hispanic American myself, how am I contributing to the US becoming a 3rd world socialist hellhole???? I really want to hear this.

But if you vote for the Democrat Party, or the real name... Socialist Feminist Party, then you are most definitely contributing to the US becoming a 3rd world socialist hellhole.

We cannot afford this spending. I'm not saying the Republicans have it all right, or they are even all that much better. But we simply cannot afford all this spending and waste of a giant federal govt. We are heading 100 MPH off the cliff to where Greece is today. The only way to stop it is to stop the spending and reduce the govt., the opposite of what the Democrats want.

The GOP will get us off the cliff at 25 mph. The Democrats have a brick stuck on the pedal. Unfortunately there are way too many people and special interest groups invested in the big government paradigm. Both parties are socialist but the GOP at least has some good members. The Democrats are mini-Lenins and Trotskys

If you vote for the Democrats, you're essentially voting for making your country into a feminist/hard left/anti-man/anti civilization hell-hole.

I agree 100%. I disagree with a lot of things the Republicans do, they are just better for the country than Democrats.

But like I said earlier in this thread, Gary Johnson was the best Presidential candidate for us red pill males. He wasn't perfect, but he was pretty damn red pill and pretty damn good.