Post: #26

Ugly instagram filter + ugly dog + gold watch? Oh wow. If I hadn't read your description, I'd have said that this girl is a typical worthless, show-off youngster.

Post: #27

I did a test tonight. I went to to find one of these girls. I went to an area of Miami called Brickell. It has a bunch of bars and clubs. I went into every major bar and club and walked all around. I did see a few potential good girls but guess what? They were all either with a guy or part of a mix group - so they could be with one of the guys in the group. So yes, you could find one of these girls out at night at some bar or club but the chance of being able to approach them will be very slim.

On a side note: one of my good looking friends brought out his girlfriend for me to meet her. I wouldn't even approach this girl if I saw her alone. Interestingly these good looking guys always seem to end up with very average girlfriends. The reason is, they have never had to really work to get a girl, so they simply don't know how. The are use to taking the girls that throw themselves at them and a high quality girl will never do that.

Post: #28

(06-08-2014 12:15 AM)Spede Wrote:  Ugly instagram filter + ugly dog + gold watch? Oh wow. If I hadn't read your description, I'd have said that this girl is a typical worthless, show-off youngster.

Don't worry with experience you will be able to look beyond the outside. You can't pick one of these girls from photo. You have to see her in person. It's more about how she carries herself than how she looks. As Mark Manson said in Models, we convey status primarily by how we behave not by how we look.

Post: #29

Good post Nomad, I always enjoy your insight about this kind of thing, and playing the "devils advocate" on the forum to some extent. You raise solid conversation, and I can identify with the material quite often.

I see how game makes some of us cynical and causes us to look at women as a pursuit that doesn't last, hence we must keep renewing our resources. I personally look in the wrong places and this has sparked deep thought in myself and a look at my priorities. I think practicing more day game and limiting time in a club setting helps find this type of girl, however it has been said that those "good girls" are in the club on the weekend, and then during the week are studying and such.

The best way to meet good girls is to meet girls in general and filter them through. Obviously we cannot get to know a girl based on one date or such, but there are also red flags that get raised early on to show she isn't quality material. In the end, you just have to play the field, go out and meet women, and you will be surprised what your net catches in the deep waters.

Post: #30

Thanks but with enough experience you will be able to detect these girl much earlier. I can pretty much pick out one of these girls by just observing her for a few minutes. I may not always be 100% right but I would bet serious money on my ability to do this. I can also pick out very sexual girls by just interacting with them for five minutes. The moment I start touching a girl I can tell just by how she reacts to my touch.

Playing the field takes time and energy. At my level of experience I don't need to play the field anymore. I can pretty much look upon the field and pick out the girls that are good and even the ones that have a high probability of being attracted to me. This is why I am always on the look out for them 24/7. Because they can pop up anywhere and you have to be ready to approach when they do. The biggest problem with these girls is that, in America, 80% or more of them will be on lock down in a relationship or wife up.

Post: #31

Here is the last one I met in the night and this was about a year ago. I was leaving the club and she was sitting outside with a friend. I actually did meet her again. Hers is an interesting story but it's one I can't tell but look at her left hand.

Sorry, I decided to remove this pic to protect this girl because she is married but trust me, she is as attractive as the first one.

Post: #32

Really good girls are not that difficult to get.

You just have to want to be truly together with her. And convince her that you won't continue your Player-lifestyle. The more astute ones can even see through your fake promises.

So in a way - you have to become a monogamous Alpha with Game - for the right kind of beautiful good girl it may be worthwhile.

Post: #33

(06-07-2014 11:29 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Game works a lot less on good women because they don't have psychological flaws that can be easily exploited.

Completely disagree. Game only highlights guy's personality. If guys is normal/cool game supercharges that and makes him naturally attractive to people in general. If so called good girls usually don't respond well then it's about you more than the game itself.

(06-07-2014 11:29 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  But my point is, there are good girls out there, there are just difficult to find and when you do find them they are not going to be easy to Game or get.

So where do you find them?

You just meet girls and some of them are good and some are bad. It's random. I met one of my GFs in a nightclub at 3am while she was dancing oozing of "i don't care.." vibe. On first glance.. party girl. But no. Turned out she was really cool girl with nice T&A and some real self esteem who happened to be celebrating her masters degree that night. So you never know.

Post: #34

(06-08-2014 12:49 AM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  I think practicing more day game and limiting time in a club setting helps find this type of girl, however it has been said that those "good girls" are in the club on the weekend, and then during the week are studying and such.

Daygame is an option. Good girls are not in the club on the weekend.

If a girl's in the club on the weekend, she's past the good girl phase already, or she simply was never a good girl, due to a lack of a proper upbringing. Of the two good girls that I've dated, neither had ever drank alcohol...they didn't know what alcohol tasted like, and neither had ever been to a bar. Neither was a religious fanatic either, so don't think you have to deal with that nonsense in order to get a good girl. If you want a good girl, you've got to find her, then get to her before she gets fucked over by enough men that she becomes jaded, gets a chip on her shoulder, loses the ability to give herself fully, to fall in love without reservation, and to trust completely. In essence, before she becomes your average American girl.

That said, the time and effort required in America to find and make a girlfriend out of this kind of girl is very high. I recommend moving abroad if a good girl is what you're looking for. However, if you're just looking for sex and have no qualms about a girl's drunken episodes/drug use/tattoos/smoking/past sexual partners/man-hating tendencies/masculine behaviors, then America's perfectly fine for that, no issues there. Even with obesity, there's still plenty of good looking damaged goods to go around for any guy with his act together.

Post: #35

These girls are pretty much the only type I go for. There are loads of them in more middle class areas here, and around the red brick universities. However, they are very often already in LTRs (almost always with fairly mediocre, stable, nice guys).

As for not being good in bed, while I do like good head, being good in bed doesn't mean all that much to me, because I'm really only interested in basic hard pounding which doesn't take any skill on the girl's part.

Post: #36

@XXL Game is a very broadly used term that encompasses a very wide range of concepts. As I stated early there are both passive and active game. I am specifically referring to active game. It is not impossible to find a good girl in a club I even gave an example of one I met last year, just very rare to find one that is available here in the US.

@Spaniard I don't think you have to go to those extremes to find a good girl. My definition of good girl is just a girl that is balanced without any major psychological problems and a cool personality.

@Kieran Some of my best lovers have been good girls. It all depends on what turns you on sexually. For me, I like a girl with passion and feelings. And a good girl usually have more of these because they are not as jaded. Also, once they begin to feel more free they are very much open to lots of stuff.

Post: #37

Nomad, do you want a good woman though? Before we hunt, we have to be very honest with what we want.

If you want goat meat, why aim at antelope?

I don't really want a wifey right now, I just want a hoodrat that doesn't bring too much drama and is freaky about giving up the poon and letting me hit her friends/cousins/mums/sisters and aunty.

If she is incapable of commitment, that's fine. I've been hitting a new lizard and she said that during the date, she didn't even think I like black lizards cos of the way I speak and carry myself.

Hence she was surprised when I went for the kiss at the end.

What do you want? Be very specific.

Post: #38

I am always on the hunt for a good girl.

Post: #39

(06-08-2014 09:19 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  I am always on the hunt for a good girl.

Sounds vague. What do you want exactly? You have to be specific. If you want a good girl, ignore the party lizards and gold diggers and go for the good girls.

Put out the vibe that invites good lizards. The domestic type that cook and rub their man's back in the bath. Keep your game radar on in case she is a vixen masquerading as a good lizard to get beta benefits.

Go to churches, libraries and other meetup events and liason with those lizards accordingly.

Those who go for party sluts cannot complain when they do not cook and rub a man's back. Those who go for good girls cannot complain when they don't give the best head or ride like a porn star.

One must be specific. Me myself, I am looking for indecent hoodrats for the time being.

Post: #40

I found one. She is 100% American and she is everything you guys want in a girl and none of the bad habits of the typical American girl. So, they do exist but there are not a whole lot of them around. You are also more likely to find them in the day than out at night.

She is one of those yoga, vegetarian, simple lifestyle girls. Would be pretty tough to find her in a club. I invited her out and she invited me to go pick watermelons in an organic garden. The calmness of this girl is actually disturbing. She can just sit next to you without talking, looking at her phone or doing anything else completely at peace with herself. She is so calm, she makes me nervous. She wears no makeup and rides a bike. But at the same time she is very affectionate and has a better body than me and never complains about anything.

Post: #41

(06-30-2014 12:02 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  She is one of those yoga, vegetarian, simple lifestyle girls.

I was going to say, "go to yoga". Yoga women can be pretty good(not all of them, but just saying)

Post: #42

(06-30-2014 12:02 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  I found one. She is 100% American and she is everything you guys want in a girl and none of the bad habits of the typical American girl. So, they do exist but there are not a whole lot of them around. You are also more likely to find them in the day than out at night.

She is one of those yoga, vegetarian, simple lifestyle girls. Would be pretty tough to find her in a club. I invited her out and she invited me to go pick watermelons in an organic garden. The calmness of this girl is actually disturbing. She can just sit next to you without talking, looking at her phone or doing anything else completely at peace with herself. She is so calm, she makes me nervous. She wears no makeup and rides a bike. But at the same time she is very affectionate and has a better body than me and never complains about anything.

Sounds good. Has she ever lived outside of the States before?

Post: #43

Get a good girl drunk and stand back and observe is my way of doing things. Drink shows a person for what they really are.

Post: #44

(06-30-2014 08:01 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Get a good girl drunk and stand back and observe is my way of doing things. Drink shows a person for what they really are.

Indeed. They call it the truth serum. Some say the truth is at the bottom of the bottle..etc.

Post: #45

(06-30-2014 08:01 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Get a good girl drunk and stand back and observe is my way of doing things. Drink shows a person for what they really are.

nah..give them acid and that really will show who they really are

Post: #46

The good women are outside of America.

Post: #47

No, she has never lived outside of the US and while I have never gotten her drunk she has drank a few drinks. She is exactly the same. The critical element here is her belief system. This whole organic lifestyle movement. It is like a religion and it shapes these women.

Post: #48

The good old "if you only found a girl in a library" fallacy... there is certainly a small difference compared to girls who spend their lives in clubs, but it's a difference of a degree. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've been played by "nice" girls who jumped into alpha harems and then complained about men being pigs.

In other words, A) you don't know whether these girls are really as "nice" as you believe them to be, and B) it's still no good if they give themselves to some glue-sniffing ruffian instead of a normal man who would appreciate it.

A girl who is both nice and appreciates nice men is one in a million nowadays.

Post: #49

(06-30-2014 11:10 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  No, she has never lived outside of the US and while I have never gotten her drunk she has drank a few drinks. She is exactly the same. The critical element here is her belief system. This whole organic lifestyle movement. It is like a religion and it shapes these women.

Yes - the organic, yoga, spiritual (true spirituality - not empty bible thumping) girl can be different nowadays. In a way they step away from the mainstream.

But again - they will fall prey to the same kind of Alpha from their lifestyle venue, but agreed - there is a greater likelihood that you will find a "good" one there.

Post: #50

My current girl is a real cutie that speaks four languages and hates on fat girls. If I take her around France or Spain she can translate for me. She's Romanian.