Post: #1

CA BILL DEMANDS VERBAL OR WRITTEN CONSENT FOR SEX ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES

by DANIEL NUSSBAUM 4 Jun 2014 593 POST A COMMENT

A newly amended bill from a California lawmaker would require college students to stop in the heat of passion and establish verbal or written consent before having sex anywhere on campus, reports L.A. Weekly.
SB 967, amended last week by state Sen. Kevin de Leon (D-Los Angeles), would mandate that college students obtain "an affirmative, unambiguous, and conscious decision by each participant to engage in mutually agreed-upon sexual activity."
Last month, the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights released a list of 55 schools that face federal probes into their handling of sexual assault cases. De Leon said his bill is meant to confront sexual assault problems head-on.
"Obviously, there is a problem," he said in the report. "SB 967 will change the equation so the system is not stacked against survivors by establishing an affirmative consent policy to make it clear that only 'yes' means 'yes.'"
According to the language of the bill, "consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual encounter, and can be revoked at any time. The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent."
Despite the bill's noble intentions, not everyone is sold on the proposed legislation.
In an article for LegalInsurrection.com, attorney Hans Bader argues the language of the proposed law could make ordinary people out to be sexual criminals.
"Since most people have engaged in sex without verbal consent, supporters of the bill are effectively redefining most people, and most happily-married couples, as rapists," he said.
Bader goes even further, saying the law could violate individual privacy rights:
Requiring people to have verbal discussion before sex violates their privacy rights, under the logic of Supreme Court decisions such as Lawrence v. Texas (2003), which struck down Texas' sodomy law, and federal appeals court decisions like Wilson v. Taylor (1984), which ruled that dating relationships are protected against unwarranted meddling by the Constitutional freedom of intimate association.
The proposed law would require all college campuses to adopt a uniform policy "concerning sexual assault, domestic violence, dating violence, and stalking." Schools that fail to adhere to the policy would not be eligible to receive state funds for student financial assistance.

Post: #2

We need a witch-hunt meme.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #3

Written consent? Wouldn't that require some sort of witness?

Post: #4

Can you sign my permission slip so I can go on a field trip?

Post: #5

So having dorm sex is going to be like filming one of those reality pornos where they start off showing the girl signing the model release.

Post: #6

Most reality shows have blanket consent forms on the walls of the buildings they shoot in, so they don't have to get releases from every single person who walks in the bar where the real world cast is hanging out.

"By entering the premises, you agree to allow us to use your likeness, voice, or person in our TV show." etc.

I've been tempted to take one of those releases, add a nudity and sex clause, frame it on the wall like a diploma, and just start filmming all my bangs.

Maybe it's time to dust this idea off.

Post: #7

"Since most people have engaged in sex without verbal consent, supporters of the bill are effectively redefining most people, and most happily-married couples, as rapists," he said.



We're all guilty of rape according to this definition, unless you're an incel.

Post: #8

Throw the word rapist around often enough at people who don't deserve it and it will lose all of its meaning. That is where the West is headed to higher levels of absurdity.

Post: #9

These people are head cases and need to be kicked out of positions of power immediately. There's no reasoning with these psychos.

Post: #10

Rape fever has infected America, without a doubt.

Post: #11

Well, the bill is being sponsored by Kevin de Leon, the same idiot who tried pulling this stunt:

Post: #12

Shitty thread title.

'Just the tip' will edge out 'going balls deep' as the predominant form of sex lest she 'revoke consent' and you don't pull out fast enough, and bam! YOU'S A RAPIST.

Matt, Ponce De Leon is a fitting title for the man...

Post: #13

This has been predicted satirically a while ago.

Post: #14

I remember back in the 90s Antioch College had some similar ridiculous standard for consent and it made national headlines and also made them the butt of many jokes. SNL even mocked them in one of their skits. Unsurprising in the current climate that this sort of ridiculousness, once reserved for only the most retardedly-liberal doctrinaire PC colleges, is rearing its ugly head again.

Post: #15

I'm about to send him a letter demanding "consent" every time he fucks his wife because I'm worried he is "forcing" himself on her and if he refuses, he is implying that his wife is like a piece of property to him and therefore a rapist.




I can probably get like 20k signatures on that

Post: #16

That is both hilarious and prophetic

Post: #17

this is nothing more than another attempt to drive a wedge between the sexes and destroy human interaction and bonding.

A brave new world indeed.

And the funny thing is, we are all John Savage.

Post: #18

(06-05-2014 12:37 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

We need a witch-hunt meme.

Post: #19

We all know it doesn't apply to alphas...shit wait I take it back...Jameis Winston

Dammit it applies to all of us

Ace Ventura (couldn't find pic or gif): "Now... I have an insurance form. If you'll just sign here, here, and here, and initial here, and print your name here, we'll get the rest of the forms out to you as soon as we can."

Post: #20

(06-05-2014 12:37 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

We need a witch-hunt meme.

Post: #21

^ Now we're talking.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #22

Wait, so if no verbal or written consent is given--who's the rapist? The dude or chick? Or are they both raping each other?

Post: #23

(06-05-2014 04:54 PM)nmmoooreland20 Wrote:  Wait, so if no verbal or written consent is given--who's the rapist? The dude or chick? Or are they both raping each other?

Well, logically, it would be both. However, if this bill somehow becomes a law, I'm sure that college administrations would find ways to make the men the rapists.

Post: #24

So if nobody signs anything then it is mutual rape?

Post: #25

Women want equality, then they can be jailed for rape just as frequently as men. It is pathetic to suggest that all men perpetuate a culture of rape, and even more ludicrous to suggest that our culture is one of rape.