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RE: Salon: 33 Year Old Virgin Tries to Write Away the Pain
(06-02-2014 07:03 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  And since the above post mentions height, I'll throw in I was 5'2" when I graduated high school. The height stuff on the Internet gets wearying after a while and does not jibe at all with my personal experiences.

This. I've known three fierce players all under 5ft8, and their height didn't stop them for a second, because they didn't let them.

Girls kind of have a fantasy construct of the guy they want in their head, but if you show enough social-value and charisma around them, they quickly start making excuses in their head why height or looks etc, isn't important until it they decide you were actually what they wanted all along. You're still ugly, but you're ugly in a cute or interesting way. That broken nose isn't disfiguring, but masculine. Looking immature becomes 'boyish'. They lack any conviction.

I think this is why they fall out of love so savagely. They start looking for reasons that why they hate you, and it all falls away.
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RE: Salon: 33 Year Old Virgin Tries to Write Away the Pain
I see these types of stories too often today. Problems with making money is probably the prevalent one. It's obvious that this guy has never closely examined the reasons of why he isn't getting laid. He mentioned going out with women, but always ended up home alone playing video games at the end of the night.

The reason he ended up alone is simply that he preferred playing video games to getting laid. Going home and playing video games is safe. There's no unknown, there's no possibility of rejection, there's only the comfort of the familiar end to the night which probably included fapping to the very girl he was out with earlier.

I completely understand his plight. I've been there at different times with money, politics, women, and health. I hope someday he'll come to enjoy venturing into the unknown as much as I do. It would be a shame for him to die this young and just wait around another 50 years to make it official.
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RE: Salon: 33 Year Old Virgin Tries to Write Away the Pain
This is what the cultural elites are trying to hold up as a model for us. If you are bad with woman, don't be entitled by trying to get sex, just accept it.

But that's against nature. Men evolved to fuck and are not going to accept a sexless existence, you can see his pain in his writing.

His problem is that he has swallowed the blue pill hard and takes the Salon cultural leftist view completely. If he would stop pedestalizing women, work out, get better clothes, there is no doubt he could get laid.Hell, if he would just go and get a whore he would have some of his tension dissipate. But he is a member of a culture that says it is wrong for a man to go and try to get his needs and desire fulfilled, and so a virgin he stays.
06-02-2014 09:51 PM
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Very easy solution:
Someone tell this guy to Thailand if he wants a Fuckation or to the Phils if e wants to combine both a Fuckation and a sweet gf.

Problem solved.
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He's wasting irreplaceable years of his "youth" by being a virgin. His inexperience with women will haunt him later on. No amount of money or fame will buy back those lost years. I have met quite a few older married guys who have told me explicitly in conversations that they wish they dated way more before settling down. This guy not only hasn't been laid he hasn't been in any relationship and is literally being duped out of doing what's natural by a culture of feminism.

I predict he will end up as a very angry and bitter old man.
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RE: Salon: 33 Year Old Virgin Tries to Write Away the Pain
I wrote this article for guys like him:
http://www.returnofkings.com/34455/how-t...-superhero

Exactly the type I describe in the opening paragraph.

If he followed that advice, he'd get laid by accident.

Read my work on Return of Kings here.
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(06-02-2014 05:08 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Solid game and status can easily-override a lack of looks. Dude's better-looking than Elvis Costello, who is onto his third wife and just fathered twins at 53:

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You show me a bloke who says he can't get laid, and I'll just show you a narcissist who simply won't lower his standards enough.

Wait, that's his wife Diana Krall right? She's 49, and she just had twins??
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I wonder if tweeting a guy like this the forum address would be helpful or if he would just shrug it off
06-03-2014 12:03 AM
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Last time I was in NY, I saw a fat 40-something Indian dude macking on a cute girl in her mid-30s. New York is an incredibly easy place to get laid if you can get into the bars. He should do something about his sex life instead of being a fucking loser and complaining on Salon.
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(06-02-2014 05:03 PM)Samseau Wrote:  When I lost my virginity at 24, the woman had no idea she was taking my virginity. Being a virgin is a state of mind, not a biological fact.

Agree. I know virgins who are more alpha than guys with double digit notches. Guys shouldn't let their virginity get to their head.
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(06-02-2014 11:46 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  
(06-02-2014 05:08 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Solid game and status can easily-override a lack of looks. Dude's better-looking than Elvis Costello, who is onto his third wife and just fathered twins at 53:

[Image: elvis_costello_cbbjpg.jpg]

You show me a bloke who says he can't get laid, and I'll just show you a narcissist who simply won't lower his standards enough.

Wait, that's his wife Diana Krall right? She's 49, and she just had twins??

Nah, in 2006. Sorry, I didn't realise how quickly time passed. He was 53 at the time, she was 43. They're rich enough to afford fertility treatment.
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(06-03-2014 12:03 AM)LeBeau Wrote:  I wonder if tweeting a guy like this the forum address would be helpful or if he would just shrug it off


"WingedWheel4real 48 minutes ago
Doesn't this guy know there are time-proven, guaranteed strategies for manipulating females into sex through using something called "game"? I heard about it last week on some really respectable message boards and my dick is sore from all that shameful sexin'."

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(06-03-2014 12:03 AM)LeBeau Wrote:  I wonder if tweeting a guy like this the forum address would be helpful or if he would just shrug it off

Guys like that are largely a lost cause and not worth the time. When they write shitty feminist pandering articles for a site like Salon or Huffpo then you know they are clueless and always will be.

He'll probably reply with some passive-aggressive snark and get virtual high-fives from his equally lame cyber buddies and maybe verbal kudos from a chick that he orbits and will never touch within this lifetime.
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RE: Salon: 33 Year Old Virgin Tries to Write Away the Pain
This is a powerful article, but not for the reasons the author thinks it is. It shows:

1. How important sexual function and identity are for men. Early rejections in life, for a sensitive soul, can be crippling. As much as he tries to rationalize away his virginity as "not so bad", the more hollow it sounds.

2. American women generally enjoy handing out brutal rejections, especially to nerds. No mercy, no sympathy, no attempt to spare his feelings in any way, shape, or form. Without steely resolve, the effect can be crushing.

3. He consistently has refused to make the self-improvements necessary (wardrobe, social skills, conversational skills, game, etc) to change his lot. His brain is now conditioned to his being a failure with women, and it's going to get harder as he gets older to snap out of his patterns. At some point, you have to stop having sympathy for people who don't want to change.

4. This guy is not so horribly ugly or deformed (it appears) that he couldn't get something if he wanted to.

5. He still-erroneously--subscribes to the belief that the right one "will just come along." Wrong. Unless he takes action, he's going to be in the same place 2 years from now.

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RE: Salon: 33 Year Old Virgin Tries to Write Away the Pain
Oh gosh .... 33 yold !

I'm sure he has plenty of occasion and screw most of them .... Somehow ...

He should watch Californication it might help him Tongue
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RE: Salon: 33 Year Old Virgin Tries to Write Away the Pain
I'm going to throw out another side to this: in a monogamous society, for every 33 year old virgin, that means there's a woman who's not in a relationship. So that 33 year old who's bitching that she can't find a good guy? She should be blaming the author.

This is supposed to be a rebuttal to the UCSB fuckwit, but it's not like that dude would listen even if he was still alive. Why is it that people have this obsession with writing rebuttals to a dead man?
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On the bright side, he's not married and close to max SMV.

If this guy likes to do reality TV (has a YouTube show about female roommates) he could do a show about conditioning himself and being trained at game.
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Without reading all the comments on this thread or much of the guy's blog, I can say with relative certainty that his main problem is social and/psychological. There are uglier guys than him with less game who still get laid.

I'd be willing to bet money that he's still a virgin because he just doesn't fucking try (enough), and if he has approached, he sure as hell isn't doing anywhere near the amount he could be doing. These self-proclaimed "incels" are basically digging their own graves by moaning and fixating on their lack of sex (not to mention using said lack of sex as a form of self-identification) instead of focusing their minds on chasing after what they want.

I was a virgin until 21. My first two "pre-game" lays (a fling and a GF) were due largely to luck, but also to the fact that I made myself approach, knowing full well I could get rejected. I've gone through more than a fair share of dry spells, rejection marathons (sometimes rude ones), but every time, I refused to sit in a corner moping and instead kept approaching.

Working out getting new clothes will certainly help, but there are ripped and fashionable guys who can't get laid either. Fitness and fashion are supplements, but only adopting the literal mindset "I will never stop until I get what I want or I drop dead!" will get guys like these any results.

Disclamer: I am not the Sargon of Akkad from Youtube and I have no relation whatsoever to that person...also, I don't give a shit about videogames.
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I'm not a virgin anymore, but I understand exactly where this guy is coming from. I also have lots of theories on him because I've had a similar life.

He probably has major mom issues. My guess is that mom was emotionally distant and ignored him. That was exactly how my mother has been.

He looked to fulfill this void with females. At an early age (probably 11 or 12), girls could sense his neediness. I suspect they started disrespecting him around that time as well.

Girls this age love to fuck with boys they don't respect. I remember girls giving me notes that they said were from other girls. Many times, they were just fakes. They just wanted to get me to pour my heart out so they could laugh at me later. They love to tease guys at that age.

Even boys get in on the act, too. They love to beat down boys who are already beaten down. They question your masculinity.

Plus, everyone tries to cockblock you. Many times, I tried to form friendships or more with girls. Almost immediately, any friends of hers (male and female) would dislike me instantly. If the girl actually did want to be friends with me, they simply couldn't believe it. At one point, I actually said to myself: "Never try to be friends with a girl you like."

One thing that helped me in high school was hanging out with kids in another town. I found a girl friend there. I had a different reputation. People didn't have all the judgments. I took the girl to the prom. Years later, we met up again and had sex.

Yes, I do feel bad for this guy. I feel bad because he got a lot of shitty programming into his head at an age when he was too young to realize that it was shitty programming.

I give him credit for doing stand up. It looks like he is making somewhat of an effort. But he still has a way to go, obviously.
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This looks like his Facebook profile. It looks like he has a mustache and beard now. That was a good move for him.

https://www.facebook.com/raygootz
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I realized you have to loose your virginity just to realize sex is not that big of a deal that is made out to be. You have to check this box out to be able to move on your life.
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I don't understand why no one from RVF has reached out to him yet. His problem could obviously be solvable by losing weight, improving his appearance, and learning some game. I've seen worst lost causes turn it around. Hell, I was a virgin until my early-mid twenties and it took a family member gifting me Mystery Method before I fixed that part of my life.

His biggest problem now is clearly mental. And he needs to shut the fuck up about the virgin thing. As a man that's something you just should keep to yourself. I'll tweet at him, though some guys just can't handle the sort of tough love we throw around here. Grouphug You never know.

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When I was 17 I let slip to the girl I was with that I was a virgin. Never banged her after that. Learned my lesson first time round on that one.

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It's a great pity that, given his Twitter feed, he doesn't devote anywhere near as much time to learning the art of pussy as he does to the art of Comparative Playstation:

Quote:So here is why i went with the PS4:

I've owned a n64 for 19 years ps2, dreamcast for 15 years, a psp for 10, a ds for 10, a wii for 7 and a gamecube for 14. I like to know I can come back to my games when I feel like it. All the systems I mentioned work fine. my ps2 tray is a little slow but the games play great.

Here is what doesn't fucking work, the xbox 360.

I had to send it in twice. It scratches discs, freezes is slow as shit whether on wireless or wired. The video on netflix is choppy and grainy, wheras the wii u I get HD. Xbox gold was and is a rip off. In order to play GTA 5 I had to buy a memory stick, the tray barley opens, the machine screams like a child being raped in the ass when it's running. It's like something out of the industrial revolution.

I was not gonna go for a ps4 or a xbox one. I figured I'd keep playing games on 360 and use my wii u as my main console. Except the 360's lasers treat my games like brock lesnar taking xavier Woods to suplex city. I can't play GTA 5 anymore. WWE 2k15 got scratched after 2 playthrus. In short this system was a con artist piece of shit. It is not meant to hold up because microsoft dose not want you to keep using it. Now I know everyone screams about backward compatibility but guess what 360 had original xbox backward capability. The other day I threw in the orginal xbox's exclusive Buffy game which worked fine 6 years ago...guess what? THEY PATCHED OUT THE BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY. So now my original xbox games are worthless. In a few years they are gonna do the same to our 360 games on the xbox one. Watch.

So I went back to sony and the ps4. Now you can argue with me but I deal in facts. The fact is the ps2 has given me 15 years of enjoyment. After 20 years I can still play my ps 1 launch titles. I'm looking to invest in a 20 year system. I think Ps4 and wii u will give me those years. Just like my n64 did.

So here we go. Play. Station. I'm back.

Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. It's weird enough to go back and play old games on a fucking PS3, and he's still using the fucking PS1?
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RE: Salon: 33 Year Old Virgin Tries to Write Away the Pain
(06-03-2014 01:18 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  2. American women generally enjoy handing out brutal rejections, especially to nerds. No mercy, no sympathy, no attempt to spare his feelings in any way, shape, or form. Without steely resolve, the effect can be crushing.

I am trying to remember the last time I was brutally rejected, I would disagree with this. Women don't like having to reject guys that have their shit together. If it's a girl I sort of know, the most common rejection is "can I think about it" or "can I get back to you, I am sort of dating someone". And that is just a half assed rejection in and of itself.

If it is a girl I don't know, and they really aren't interested, they just say "no thanks" and move on.

A lot of the time, it seems like I can almost see the wheels spinning in the girls head if she is already dating someone but can maybe get away with some cock on the side, before saying "I can't, I'm dating someone"

The rest of what you are writing is on target though. I admit, I mostly do day game, if I was trying to do night game in Los Angeles, I guess a lot of the girls just go out to clubs because they like being hit on by guys and rejecting them and they get off on the attention and have an industrial strength bitch shield at night in clubs. I doubt they act like that during the day though, in fact, I am convinced that they do not.

I have to think back to maybe junior high or middle school to when I was last brutally rejected. Are there guys taking brutal rejections outside of night game?

I see getting rejected by beautiful women as a good thing, for one, sometimes they actually say yes. And another, if you aren't getting rejected, then you aren't trying to get girls out on dates and into bed.

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