Post: #26

One way to minimize calories and maximize fullness:

Make a smoothie - 2 large carrots, spinach, maybe kale, fruits and eggs if you want. This is very filling and no more than 400 calories... You get really full.

Post: #27

How does this work if you're already a serious coffee drinker? Just add the ephedrine and baby aspirin and keep consuming caffeine in coffee as one normally would?

Post: #28

I'm a big coffee drinker but since I started the stack I haven't been drinking much coffee. I had one coffee and took the ephedrine at the same time. Other then that I've just been taking the caffeine pills.. no craving for coffee really. I have an occasional green tea whenever I feel like it regardless of whether I've taken a dose.

Post: #29

One of my friends who first told me about this stack would substitute a 200mg of caffeine for 2 cups of caffeine spread over an hour. Apparently a cup of coffee is roughly 50mg of caffeine but don't quote me as i just take the tablets for convenience.

If you drink a lot of caffeine I'd say just take the C and A

Green tea is actually great. My coach drinks a cup everyday but I haven't. I should start.

Post: #30

(10-14-2014 04:14 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 04:03 PM)Sturmgeist Wrote:  

(10-13-2014 10:34 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  This stack definitely works, but me I've always preferred to go the supplements way since you'll always be taking the same thing every single time and also since some of them contain some yohimbe, which helps in blocking the A2 receptors contain in hard to burn fat places such as the belly for men and the hips for women.

Make sure you take Yohimbe while fasting or doing fasting cardio. I've read on various websites Insulin production hinders the effects of it.

So with Yohimbe the effect is even stronger? What dosage for that? I bought it but so far never used it after reading that many people get serious increase in heartbeating and sweating from it, so I suspect dosage is crucial. Should also work for serious boners apparently .

Also for just burning of a bit of bellyfat, how long would you approx. need to take this stack?

While on the stack you can concentrate fully for work etc?

Thanks for the info.

This one was probably answeredbut I'll still go ahead. If you buy the regular Yohimbe usually the dosage is 1000mg per pill which is not that hard on the system. But if you manage tobget some Yohimbe HCL, then it's another ball game! the dosing is crucialnon this kne and I believe that it is .04 per pound of bodyweight.

Not really sure of the exact ration but it can be found easily online. The HCL is illegalin Canada since it is containe in Viatra a bit I believe. Yohimbe has to be on a empty stomach since Insulin would stop the Yohimbe from blocking the blockers fromnyour B2 receptors. Would not recommend stacking Ephedrine with Yohimbe HCL as it might be too potent.

Post: #31

(01-28-2015 09:30 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  This combo increases metabolism 10% I believe, be warned ephedrine is a rather jittery drug.

Also, hate to capitalize but EPHEDRINE POPS AS METH ON PISS TESTS. don't lose your job or violate probation.

Ephedrine raises your metabolism to around 3%. It is the unbeatable but dangerous Clenbuterol that Raises it to 10% but the side effect are huge, especially if you don't take it properly. As strong as Ephedra is, it is orange juice compared to Clenbuterol. If anyone decides to take clen, respect it like you were literally holding a loaded gun in your hands. No jokes

Post: #32

I have read good things about Yohimbe CL, Caffeine and L-tyrosine stack.


I guess they sell Ephedrine in Canada. Anyone know what happens if you get caught with it if you are travelling back to the States?

Post: #33

Ran the stack til I finished the bottle. Been a few weeks since I've taken it. Grabbed enough for a full cycle this time, starting it up again as of today.

The first few workouts on it were amazing, looking forward to it again. Tolerance builds up quick unfortunately.

How are you guys coming along?

Post: #34

This is pretty much one of the only "Supplements" that has been proven to work time and time again.

But you should leave this bullet in the gun until you're 10% or lower. That's when you will need the extra boost.

Diet and exercise can get anyone to 10%, under that some of us need help. (10% is an arbitrary number I pulled out of my ass but you get the point)

If you start with ECA too early, you'll be hittin that clen by 12% haha.

Post: #35

I started this on Sunday of this week. I also revamped my diet which began two weeks ago. My doses are 200 mg of caffeine and 3 8mg ephedrine tablets.

I've lost ~5 pounds since the start of last week. I was 227 and now I'm 222. My workout consists of weights three days a week and HIIT on the bike three days a week, with one rest day.

After taking a dose I am literally bouncing off the walls. I'm already a big coffee drinker, but I've been replacing full caf with decaf just so I don't go overboard. I find I get really jittery after a dose for about an hour, but then I go back to normal. I've been taking two dose a day, one when I get up and one around noon.

The greatest thing about this so far is that I have zero appetite. I will only eat if I need something for fuel, like protein after a lift. I would recommend taking a dose right before a workout. It seems like thats the best way to harvest the jitters my body goes through after a dose.

Post: #36

Ephedra (Ma Huang) is a bitch that will not love you unless you have the classic low triad syndrome of low blood pressure, low heart rate and low blood sugar. Then you can benefit from it because it speeds up everything. I would rarely recommend anyone consume it in the West.

Post: #37

I tried it for 2 weeks(June 18-July 4), first dose 2x 8mg ephedrine(16 mg) with 200 mg of caffeine, After that for most of the 2 weeks I used the stack, I took 24 mg(3x8 mg) with 200 mg caffeine(all it the same time- single dose for the entire day). Along with some green tea +lemon at the same moment)- so more caffeine added to the stack.

I threw the ephedrine tablets in the bushes as soon I as I felt negative effects (heart beating very fast, chest pain, anxiety and shortness of breath). July 4 is the day I stopped. Crazy because I didnt took massive doses, far from it(a lot of people take 24 mg ephedrine/200 mg caffeine, 3X A DAY, every 4-6 hours) and they seem to be fine. Needless to say I stopped the stack for good, and I stopped taking caffeine until now(green tea, right now, I sip green tea for the first time in 23 days.)

Im anxious about my heart and any potential CVS/lungs/arteries problems. I will go to a cardiologist just to make sure there is no problem. I am worried about any negative ephedrine longterm effects to health, and particularly to the heart/lungs/pulmonary system/etc.

Post: #38

Ephedrine is illegal in the US because some dumbass marathoner died taking huge doses of it and hillbillies used to cook meth out of it.

I'm not surprised it works great for weight loss, since it's basically meth.

Ephedra itself (the herb) was a pretty routine stimulant that was taken since caveman times to hunt mammoths and shit. That has also been restricted courtesy of US drug policy.

Post: #39

(07-27-2015 11:14 AM)Hades Wrote:  Ephedrine is illegal in the US because some dumbass marathoner died taking huge doses of it and hillbillies used to cook meth out of it.

I'm not surprised it works great for weight loss, since it's basically meth.

Ephedra itself (the herb) was a pretty routine stimulant that was taken since caveman times to hunt mammoths and shit. That has also been restricted courtesy of US drug policy.

It's not illegal. It was however difficult to find in stores. Quite recently maybe at the start of 2015 I've noticed that all of the drug stores in the city started carrying Primatene (ephedrine and guaifenesin) . You can still buy Ephedrine behind the counter where they keep the pseudoephedrine. Check your local stores.

Post: #40

(01-31-2015 01:25 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  I have read good things about Yohimbe CL, Caffeine and L-tyrosine stack.

If anyone has any interest here is some info on it.

http://yohimbine.emgsites.com/

Under the additional resources tab, you will see "Stubborn Fat Protocol 1/5, 2/5, 3/5, 4/5, 5/5." These 5 pages explain the stack encouraged by Lyle McDonald.

I am about to start this stack this week, I think. Still need to clarify a couple of things.

Post: #41

(01-25-2015 02:56 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  Hey guys just saw this thread again. Wasn't sure if anyone was interested because not all the responses we're too positive.

I'm interested in a update on your experience with E.C.A. stack.

How many cycles did you run thought?

Post: #42

EC Stack has helped me immensely. I've taken it off, and on for the past 5 years or so. When I get off of it, I do initially gain some of the weight back, but I never gain all of it back. For instance, I might lose 15 lbs in a month, but once everything is leveled off in 2 weeks, it ends up being a 10lb total weight loss.

Post: #43

Anyone has any news or experience about DNP?

Post: #44

(05-20-2016 01:42 AM)Olav Wrote:  Anyone has any news or experience about DNP?

It's highly effective poison.

It was actually legal in US for a while and was promoted for weight loss benefits, but was banned due to side effects.

Post: #45

Be super careful with all these stimulants.
I have used ECA and Clenbuterol in the past, when I was younger and had less willpower & discipline.

Now that I am much older, I would never even think of touching the stuff.
I have developed my willpower & discipline to the point, where I can get as lean as I want without dealing with all those miserable side-effects.

Once your a little more seasoned, you'll realize that the true key to an amazing physique + well being is willpower & discipline.
You might end up getting shredded with ECA or Clenbuterol, but your gonna feel awful while doing it.
Then how do you plan on maintaining that physique you struggled for once your off the ECA or Clenbuterol?
Unlike Testosterone, you can't really stay on ECA or Clenbuterol for life.
If you tried, you'd probably be dead within a couple years.

However, I believe it is something every man should go through, try it out, experiment, be safe, get lean and learn.

Post: #46

(05-20-2016 11:25 AM)ScrapperTL Wrote:  Be super careful with all these stimulants.
I have used ECA and Clenbuterol in the past, when I was younger and had less willpower & discipline.

Now that I am much older, I would never even think of touching the stuff.
I have developed my willpower & discipline to the point, where I can get as lean as I want without dealing with all those miserable side-effects.

Once your a little more seasoned, you'll realize that the true key to an amazing physique + well being is willpower & discipline.
You might end up getting shredded with ECA or Clenbuterol, but your gonna feel awful while doing it.
Then how do you plan on maintaining that physique you struggled for once your off the ECA or Clenbuterol?
Unlike Testosterone, you can't really stay on ECA or Clenbuterol for life.
If you tried, you'd probably be dead within a couple years.

However, I believe it is something every man should go through, try it out, experiment, be safe, get lean and learn.

I respectfully disagree. ECA actually helps me immensely, especially in the mental realm. I'm alot more patient, calm, and confident. As far as the long term sides? The Jury is till out.

EDIT: This pertains to ECA. I've never tried Clen

Post: #47

(05-20-2016 01:21 PM)YoungAngel1 Wrote:  

(05-20-2016 11:25 AM)ScrapperTL Wrote:  Be super careful with all these stimulants.
I have used ECA and Clenbuterol in the past, when I was younger and had less willpower & discipline.

Now that I am much older, I would never even think of touching the stuff.
I have developed my willpower & discipline to the point, where I can get as lean as I want without dealing with all those miserable side-effects.

Once your a little more seasoned, you'll realize that the true key to an amazing physique + well being is willpower & discipline.
You might end up getting shredded with ECA or Clenbuterol, but your gonna feel awful while doing it.
Then how do you plan on maintaining that physique you struggled for once your off the ECA or Clenbuterol?
Unlike Testosterone, you can't really stay on ECA or Clenbuterol for life.
If you tried, you'd probably be dead within a couple years.

However, I believe it is something every man should go through, try it out, experiment, be safe, get lean and learn.

I respectfully disagree. ECA actually helps me immensely, especially in the mental realm. I'm alot more patient, calm, and confident. As far as the long term sides? The Jury is till out.

EDIT: This pertains to ECA. I've never tried Clen

Everyone has a slightly different genetic/chemistry make-up, if you can swing running ECA daily, good for you brother.
I ran it for 3 months straight when I was a lot younger and those 3 months were filled with side effects & recovering from abuse afterwards was a bitch.