Post: #1

I noticed this wasn't in a thread, if it is in another thread, please let me know.

I've noticed that after many many approaches, conversations and interactions with girls, that whenever I see that there was success, the girl started saying yes from the beginning of the interaction.
By saying yes to little questions, the interaction allowed me to gauge into a better chance of rapport. However, even if there was attraction, opening a girl with a question in which the most likely answer was "no", her availability started to decline, unless you did something about it like ask her another question, but already in a lower percent of success.

For Example:
I'm walking by the mall and I see a smokeshow of a girl, great body and a cute face, she's chilling, kinda bored, just standing waiting for her friend, with a book on her hand. Let's say you're kinda familiar with the book (or pretend to be) and see the name of the book.

From my experience, applying this principle, you can ask two kinds of questions, the yes question or the no question.

Yes Question would go:

Me: "Hey"
Her: " Hi" (Most girl I know prefer saying "hi", I don't know why)
Me: "Is that the book (insert name of the book)?"
Her: " Yeah!" (the tone usually gives her away, whether she's attracted, maybe or not)
Me: "You know that book is actually on my reading list. How's it going so far?"
Her: " It's awesome/boring (insert whatever her answer is) it's about..."

Now after this you at least open yourself up for gaming or taking it from there.
You use questions that are open-ended and their answer is yes, and that yes gives you momentum.

This works best with yes or maybe girls, and make the uninterested not as hard to blow you off during day game.

It usually works because at least she'll tell you a little about herself and you can make a judgement descision on where to take it from there. Instead of giving her the chance to answer a deadpan "No" or "I don't know" which will shoot you down

The No type of question, same situation, would be:

Me: " Hey"
Her: "Hi"
Me: " Do you know where the nearest Bank of america is?"
Her: " Nah, sorry"

Unless you push through it or ask another question which will most likely be try-hard, it'll come back and bite you in the ass. Now, nothing is written in stone, but she can definitely give you more play with yes-questions and open-ended questions.

Sometimes, when girls don't truly know what you're asking, they feel disqualified. Even if they liked you at first, because they don't know what to say, and they don't know how to lead a conversation in most cases.

I learned this after I noticed that I used to ask questions that most people wouldn't know the answer to, like where I could find places only I frequent, and even when the girl was curious about me, they would say no and just stand there, probably feeling self-concious, or for the maybe girls to not even try (kinda like when we say, "she's ok, but I'd only fuck her if I don't have to put any effort")

The yes questions don't really require a lot of thinking, which is perfect for turning off their brain and getting them to express themselves better emotionally. It's a way for the yes and maybe girls to game on!

To pull this off better, you need to be observant, usually noticing what kind of thing she's doing, wearing etc
Another one could be just asking a question that you know they're going to say yes, like where starbucks is, when you know it's like a couple blocks or in the same area you're at..

It's all about the details.

These are my two cent, feel free to disagree.

Post: #2

Mmh I try to keep it simple.

I prepare two elderly openers in my mind. If the first one does not go anywhere I have a second one. In between I put ramble.straight from daybang. After a couple of minutes she usually looks away and puts her headphones back on or I'm at galnuc.

The second 'opener' also helps the girl to figure out you like her - you are not just interested in her laptop. Some girls aren't that quick in this game

Post: #3

(05-23-2014 04:20 PM)Mumbojumbo Wrote:  Mmh I try to keep it simple.

I prepare two elderly openers in my mind. If the first one does not go anywhere I have a second one. In between I put ramble.straight from daybang. After a couple of minutes she usually looks away and puts her headphones back on or I'm at galnuc.

The second 'opener' also helps the girl to figure out you like her - you are not just interested in her laptop. Some girls aren't that quick in this game

I've only read bang, but not day-bang. But yeah, I guess this method is more for an observational approacher like I am. Most girls already know one way or the other that if you approached them and open your mouth is because you want to bang them, but the observation breaks the ice and makes them talk about themselves so you can get to know them and see what works.

Post: #4

I gauge a lot of interest on how a girl says "yeah". It's surprising how much the inflections of it can vary based on how attracted to you they are. That's why I'll usually use openers that would generally merit such a response.

Good shit Simon

Post: #5

Interesting concept. Seems to be related to the idea that asking for small favors builds rapport. Something as simple as asking someone to hold your coffee while you put your laptop back in your bag builds feelings of warmth. I guess just asking for agreement is enough.

Post: #6

(05-23-2014 04:43 PM)Ensam Wrote:  Interesting concept. Seems to be related to the idea that asking for small favors builds rapport. Something as simple as asking someone to hold your coffee while you put your laptop back in your bag builds feelings of warmth. I guess just asking for agreement is enough.

Yes, "doing me a favor so you like me better" a concept coined by Benjamin Franklin, a cat who slayed lots of pussy during his time. Good observation.

Post: #7

(05-23-2014 04:36 PM)Hans Dix Wrote:  I gauge a lot of interest on how a girl says "yeah". It's surprising how much the inflections of it can vary based on how attracted to you they are. That's why I'll usually use openers that would generally merit such a response.

Good shit Simon

Definitely man, you screen them and make sure you're not wasting your time on a girl. Sometimes being a player is optimizing what girls are dtf or not. Good stuff.

Post: #8

(05-23-2014 04:46 PM)simondice Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 04:43 PM)Ensam Wrote:  Interesting concept. Seems to be related to the idea that asking for small favors builds rapport. Something as simple as asking someone to hold your coffee while you put your laptop back in your bag builds feelings of warmth. I guess just asking for agreement is enough.

Yes, "doing me a favor so you like me better" a concept coined by Benjamin Franklin, a cat who slayed lots of pussy during his time. Good observation.

I think the converse is true as well. If you do a favor for someone it can lower your value in their eyes.

Post: #9

Life's too short to spend it chasing bitches who won't get in line and follow your lead.

Too short to put in a ton of work to seduce some broad who is going to tell me no like a crabby convenience store clerk.

There are too many other wide-eyed girls who will give me a nice enthusiastic yes.

Post: #10

Make a yes no question into an open ended one for better bridgeing. Instead of "Do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?" (Y/n) go for "Are there any Starbucks around" (because there are. If she doesn't know she's a tourist in the area fresh off a plane)

Post: #11

(05-23-2014 05:02 PM)Ensam Wrote:  I think the converse is true as well. If you do a favor for someone it can lower your value in their eyes.

Yeah because most people feel like they don't deserve it or take you for granted. Kinda like the guy who needs to do all this expensive and time-consuming shit for a woman he hasn't even banged, and she will not give him the time of the day.

Post: #12

(05-23-2014 05:06 PM)calihunter Wrote:  Make a yes no question into an open ended one for better bridgeing. Instead of "Do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?" (Y/n) go for "Are there any Starbucks around" (because there are. If she doesn't know she's a tourist in the area fresh off a plane)

That would a yes open-ended question, which works very well too. However, I like to use the yes questions too in order to gauge the interest like Hans Dix said, that way I know who I'm dealing with. Usually the open-ended question is the second question of mine, which allows me to proceed right ahead.

Post: #13

It's the ladder of "Yes"

I've read about this in PUA literature.

Good technique. Always be building yeses and avoiding nos.

Post: #14

This is how all sales scripts are written. Questions and tonality induces a yes for the customer.

Post: #15

It's a rule of sales.

Keep the customer saying "yes". Could be trivial questions, but it leads to the purchase "yes".

And "yes", it works.

Post: #16

For additional info, check out 'pacing and leading' in NLP literature. No NLP didn't invent yes-sets in any way but it really explained the psychology behind, elaborate on it and provides a more conversational structure.

Post: #17

Exactly, sales 101.

I would recommend all young cats getting a job in a really tough sales environment if circumstances permit. It just toughens you the fuck up.

Rejection becomes a fearless prospect when a 100 people are telling you to go away every single day!

Post: #18

Another one that's perhaps counterintuitive (runsonmagic mentioned it recently on his twitter feed)
And that's girls with headphones or earbuds.
As runsonmagic alluded to, these girls are not necessarily listening to some awesome music, but could just as easily be bored off their asses, and just have the headphones/earbuds in out of habit and might be happy to have someone relieve that boredom.
I don't do it that often, but I have never ever got blown out by these girls.
There's something in the fact that she has to do a deliberate action in order to speak to you, a small compliance test, if you will.
If she goes to the trouble of taking off those phones, then she's not saying 'no', she's giving you an 'in', she's at least a little bit interested.
If a girl just shakes her head and doesn't bother her ass to take her phones off, then you've just filtered out a selfish high maintenance female, who's not worth your time.
Try it and see how it goes, you might be surprised at how open these girls are to an attractive engaging man who's already cleared the earphones hurdle.

Post: #19

(05-24-2014 04:32 AM)Vicious Wrote:  For additional info, check out 'pacing and leading' in NLP literature. No NLP didn't invent yes-sets in any way but it really explained the psychology behind, elaborate on it and provides a more conversational structure.

This is very interesting. I'll definitely check this out, the more I do this, the more I find out this is more psychology rather looks or money (to an extend).

Post: #20

(05-24-2014 05:48 AM)amity Wrote:  There's something in the fact that she has to do a deliberate action in order to speak to you, a small compliance test, if you will.
If she goes to the trouble of taking off those phones, then she's not saying 'no', she's giving you an 'in', she's at least a little bit interested.

I definitely believe in doing this. Most girls would rather be with an alpha guy who's really interesting than listening 100x whatever Miley Cirus is playing these days.

It's drawing her into your frame, and it starts by following your every command, even if it's small and trivial like "take off your earbuds", "turn around", "move her", "give me a cigarette". You know she likes you cause she will not put up a fight and she will like you more for doing you a favor.

It was Benjamin Franklin who coined it "Doing me a favor so you like me better"

Post: #21

(05-23-2014 08:11 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  It's a rule of sales.

Keep the customer saying "yes". Could be trivial questions, but it leads to the purchase "yes".

And "yes", it works.

There's a lot of psych science showing that small commitments or yeses cause people to gradually but consistently open up to your viewpoint or to do what you expect them to do.

This is in the second chapter of Cialdini's book Influence, he discusses Chinese brainwashing in Korean War POW camps as a classic example.

If y'all haven't read Cialdini's book, it should quite literally be the next book on your list. You will see so much of it in your game it's scary.