Post: #26

(05-18-2014 08:01 PM)magellan Wrote:  I might agree with you if you said night game. Night game is a fucking blood bath in my opinion unless you have your spot on lock.

Night game has a very low ROI.

At this point, night game is mostly an extension of social circle game.

If one wants to use night game to try to find pussy, their best bets are the non-conventional club game nights, i.e. Tuesday, Wednesday, Sunday.

To add on to that, stay away from anything that is popular, e.g. clubs where radio stations do live broadcasts.

Post: #27

(05-18-2014 09:10 PM)jariel Wrote:  If one wants to use night game to try to find pussy, their best bets are the non-conventional club game nights, i.e. Tuesday, Wednesday, Sunday.

To add on to that, stay away from anything that is popular, e.g. clubs where radio stations do live broadcasts.

Why? I would think popularity gives you more choice, more options and so rejections wouldnt sting as bad. I think it would suck to run out of targets.

Post: #28

(05-18-2014 04:09 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  As they say, Welcome to Miami! This kind of shit wouldn't happen anywhere else.

Didn't realize this question came from Miami. I've never been but I hear it's unusually superficial there. It might be worth day gaming in another city to see if it's truly a day game issue or an environmental one.

Post: #29

I think it's every girl's dream to get approached by prince charming out of the blue. In my opinion that makes it significantly easier when you are good looking because the girl is automatically hoping that you are going to be that guy. A lot of times when I approach girls during the day their eyes get big and their faces light up like they are totally amazed that I just talked to them, even if I just asked for a piece of gum or a stapler or something.

That being said, I know there are average looking dudes on this forum who hustle way harder at day game than I do, and probably ultimately pull just as much if not more.

Post: #30

Yad, Krauser, Tom Torero. These are the three best guys at day game. None of them is particularly attractive. We all know this, but looks are so much less important for men than for women.

Post: #31

I think looks matter to women more then most people let on here on this forum, I would be stupid if I didn't admit that it didn't play a part in my success with women during the day. Still it should not discourage anyone in the least, not when a man who is disfigured is posting here about his success with women who is still himself learning the score. Perhaps you have to work a bit harder if you're face looks like a mudcake but that's still leagues better then if you were an ugly girl, after 28 they've almost no hope. Game trumps the looks I've seen it with my father.

Post: #32

(05-18-2014 07:53 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  With all that said, about the DAY/NIGHT game, having good look never hurts:





Though I admit, the pretty boy got pretty tight body language and attitude. His voice is pretty $ imo. But what he told the girls, I'm pretty sure it's a modern Ted Bundy. Explains how stupid women are. Sickening. And I have seen this in real life.

^^^^^^^^
I'll admit the above video is a pretty good critique of how shallow women are. But I'll also admit I'm even more driven by looks. Many times I've chosen a woman of questionable character over a good one because of great boobs or cheekbones.

As for the original subject: WWRD? What would Roissy do? I think he'd offer a sarcastic response in a bemused way. Her statement was a test. If you play into her frame, you automatically lose.

"She could only see herself being open to a guy hitting her up while she's out and about if she finds the guy physically attractive..."

Your answer: "That's ironic. Because I hear men mostly hit up average women since they think they have a better chance."

What this does is plays on her insecurity, implies your pickup is non-committal and will put her on the defensive. She might say "Really? Are you doing that now?!!" You can joke that away. She also might blow you off. You'd have lost anyway though answering a question like that seriously.

Post: #33

You can't help your genetics.

Everything else can be improved.

Any man who has his shit together can daygame any woman in the world.

Too many people use this "I'm only average looking blah blah blah" as an excuse to cease a relentless pursuit of perfection in every other area of their lives.

Do not be one of these people!!

Post: #34

Day game is for a guy with a lot of self confidence. That trumps looks and everything else.

You can't fake it though..girls know when it's real in their subconscious.

Post: #35

Well I would say that yeah, looks count when it comes to day game -- any kind of approach game. Fucking...any kind of game period.

But it's all unique to the individual chick and her preference. I've seen ripped guys get blown out because the girl prefers the skinny hipster dude, or vice versa, etc.

I do think though that regardless of looks, you do get points for displaying manliness. Approaching a random girl takes balls. I can think of literally 0 guys who approach girls. Most people just don't do it. I've asked girls and a lot of them say the only ones who do are old creepers. Just the fact that you do it will put you a head above most men.

Post: #36

Day game, by nature, is much more indirect than that of night game. So I would refute the statement that looks matter more. However, if you're taking a direct approach, than yes looks will matter more than if you're asking where the closest coffee shop/restaurant/fire-hydrant to piss on is. Using a direct approach during the day without previous IOIs is not solid game. Using a direct opener while being good looking might get you lucky, but right off the bat, the girl's shields are up.

Game by nature is the equalizer, taking looks out of the equation to a large extent, and allowing your personality and confidence to shine through.

Post: #37

Good looking guys always have an advantage..

Duh!

What I want to add is this..

Day Game is not always about getting laid. Sometimes, its about personal development. You can gain a lot from doing it, even if you don't get laid.

Also, if guys want to get laid, they should approach girls are on the same level of attractiveness as they are.

If you are a 6, approach a lot of 6s..

If you are a 7, approach a lot of 7s..

This will lead to sex faster than approaching only 9s and 10s. (which is ok for practice)

You can't consistently bang 7s until you learn how to consistently bang 6s.

Choose your targets wisely.

Post: #38

(05-20-2014 10:55 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If you are a 6, approach a lot of 6s..

If you are a 7, approach a lot of 7s..

This will lead to sex faster than approaching only 9s and 10s. (which is ok for practice)

You can't consistently bang 7s until you learn how to consistently bang 6s.

Choose your targets wisely.

Giovonny, I am a 12, what should I do?

But in all seriousness, this is very true, day game builds character if nothing else, because it takes a massive pair of balls to do this during the day, and most men wouldn't even consider it an option.

Post: #39

how do you know if you're a 7 or 6 though? Not to toot my own horn but I think I'm a 10

Post: #40

(05-20-2014 11:02 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  how do you know if you're a 7 or 6 though?

The girls will tell you by their reactions.

It's hard to explain but here is how I figured out how good looking I was:

I started approaching 6s, 7s, 8s, 9s, and 10s.

After a few hundred approaches, I noticed a pattern..

6's treated me like I was superior to them

7's treated me like I was their equal.

8s treated me like I was inferior to them.

That's how I learned that I was a 7.

Then, I worked to improve my fashion, hair, body, body language, confidence, etc. My game got better.. I started pulling 8's, occasionally.

I made myself better looking.

Almost every man can make himself into a 7, if he really works at it.

*****

Or, you can use one of those web sites where girls rate your pictures.

Post: #41

I agree with Gio, but it must be noted that you will never get good at 8s if you only approach 6s.

There are definitely commonalities, but 8-9s often have a very different life to than that of the 6-7s.

I have some theories about how to approach 8-9s.

One is the obvious- you get good with dealing with them while they are on that level.

The other is that you shock them, or knock them off their pedestal so that you can treat them like a 6-7.

To a guy with great game or fame etc. 8-9s are much more common on his life so they become the new 6-7s. And he gets to treat them like that because he's demonstrated very high value.

I think the hot girls secretly want to meet a man that can make them feel like a regular girl. The highly sought after guy can make her feel like a six. It probably feels more real for her.

Of course the 6-7s are envious of the more attractive girls.

An extremely attractive guy might actually have a lot if trouble with a 6 because she's likely to be nervous as fuck when dealing with him. She might lock up around him.

When you are at the highest echelons of alpha from, your game consists almost entirely if comfort. Only when you get to that level can you be the nice guy.