Post: #1

I've always seen a lot about 'where to invest in the market' or where there are high paying jobs on this thread, but never seen anyone who is looking capital to expand or start a business.

Currently, I do not have the time to develop and start a business, but am highly interested in helping someone else (if needed/wanted) start up. Otherwise, what are everyone's thoughts? Thanks for the feedback.

Post: #2

While I consider start-ups, even the best planned, with experienced management, to be extremely high risk, using your capital and setting up to be a hard money lender to real estate projects has always, in my opinion, been the best mix of above market returns (12-18% annualized) while being lower risk (your capital is tied to a title of a property that is valued at ~40% above your loan amount).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_money_lender

RVF member BIGINJAPAN works in this area and started a solid thread on it: /thread-15712.html

Post: #3

It'd be interesting to know where one can find an investor for a startup project. Did do a Google search to find one: http://www.angelsden.com/

Upon talking to them on the phone, was told the business need to be up and running and if numbers can be shown, they can help find an investor to expand. Told them If I was up & running I would not need any kind of investment and left it at that.

Post: #4

(05-17-2014 04:09 PM)sammybiker Wrote:  While I consider start-ups, even the best planned, with experienced management, to be extremely high risk, using your capital and setting up to be a hard money lender to real estate projects has always, in my opinion, been the best mix of above market returns (12-18% annualized) while being lower risk (your capital is tied to a title of a property that is valued at ~40% above your loan amount).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_money_lender

RVF member BIGINJAPAN works in this area and started a solid thread on it: /thread-15712.html

While I agree with your assessment, it is really frustrating to see that tech is being thrown millions, at times, billions of dollars, thrown their way despite lacking a proven revenue model. While those of us in RE have to provide a good deal of documentation/fees to secure funding.

I'm not knocking HMLs, because they do have their purpose, however for buy and hold investors, I prefer angels investors to HMLs, because I am not necessarily looking for a 6-24 month exit.

I definitely think that funding well priced and well located RE is a safer bet than many tech investments.

Post: #5

I'm looking for funding for a business right now. My connections are good enough to get the idea in front of investors but I need to find one or two more technical people to actually execute on the idea. My partner and I coded up a prototype but we definitely need more people. Another snag is that we found out a big Fortune 500 has the patent on a key piece of our software package. They have agreed to consider a sale or license but we need investors to pay that cost too.

Post: #6

You all shop the crowd funding groups yet? Worth a look.

Post: #7

(05-18-2014 08:40 AM)sammybiker Wrote:  You all shop the crowd funding groups yet? Worth a look.

Never heard of it? Do you have a link? Thanks for the input.

Post: #8

(05-18-2014 03:30 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  I'm looking for funding for a business right now. My connections are good enough to get the idea in front of investors but I need to find one or two more technical people to actually execute on the idea. My partner and I coded up a prototype but we definitely need more people. Another snag is that we found out a big Fortune 500 has the patent on a key piece of our software package. They have agreed to consider a sale or license but we need investors to pay that cost too.

What type of business are you starting?

Post: #9

There are a ton. Kickstarter is one of the most popular.

A review of 10 different funds...

http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/228534#

(05-18-2014 09:39 AM)Kapitalist Wrote:  

(05-18-2014 08:40 AM)sammybiker Wrote:  You all shop the crowd funding groups yet? Worth a look.

Never heard of it? Do you have a link? Thanks for the input.

Post: #10

I need an investment of around $30,000 usd.

The business is an agency that helps send Koreans, Japanese and Chinese to the UK to study abroad.

The agency earns income in three separate ways:

1: Commission of 20-40% for every student who goes to the UK (around $70-$140 a week per student, usually for a period of at least 4 months but up to a year. S each student is worth at least $1120 up to $6000 a year)

2: Resume and personal statement services, $300 one time fee for each student.

3: One to one private lessons with students before they go to the UK. $50 an hour. They usually do 2 hours a week for 6 weeks, so $600.

USP is that I am English, know England like the back for my hand and have studied at 3 different universities.

I don't know where to get the initial investment. I'm currently saving by doing no.3 and earn around $3950 a month and can save, after all expenses, $1500 a month. That puts me at about 2 years away from the goal.

Any thoughts?

Post: #11

(05-18-2014 10:31 AM)2014 Wrote:  I need an investment of around $30,000 usd.

The business is an agency that helps send Koreans, Japanese and Chinese to the UK to study abroad.

The agency earns income in three separate ways:

1: Commission of 20-40% for every student who goes to the UK (around $70-$140 a week per student, usually for a period of at least 4 months but up to a year. S each student is worth at least $1120 up to $6000 a year)

2: Resume and personal statement services, $300 one time fee for each student.

3: One to one private lessons with students before they go to the UK. $50 an hour. They usually do 2 hours a week for 6 weeks, so $600.

USP is that I am English, know England like the back for my hand and have studied at 3 different universities.

I don't know where to get the initial investment. I'm currently saving by doing no.3 and earn around $3950 a month and can save, after all expenses, $1500 a month. That puts me at about 2 years away from the goal.

Any thoughts?

Neat idea, but mind a small breakdown on what that 30 large is getting put into?

Post: #12

Who are you? What are your credentials? What business, preferably businesses have you started and developed?

Sorry for being blunt but someone with 5 posts coming here and posting something like that looks and smells like a troll and cannot be taken seriously.

I'm highly skeptical but open to being proven otherwise...

(05-17-2014 03:06 PM)Kapitalist Wrote:  I've always seen a lot about 'where to invest in the market' or where there are high paying jobs on this thread, but never seen anyone who is looking capital to expand or start a business.

Currently, I do not have the time to develop and start a business, but am highly interested in helping someone else (if needed/wanted) start up. Otherwise, what are everyone's thoughts? Thanks for the feedback.

Post: #13

Unless it's actually someone you know and trust I never trusted investing in businesses, seems to easy to be scammed or someone underreport income the business is earning. If you got a decent amount of money your looking to make work for you I'd look into getting into hard money lending for homes. You can oftentimes get like 10% pretty easy, oftentimes it's people who say want to buy a house but have a sales job they've only been working for 6 months and need like 2 years of W2's. You can oftentimes keep the house in your name and do a rent to own situation, I think this would best protect you as worst case scenario you incur some expenses evicting them but you still get the house in the end. Also, these deals tend to be structured to heavily favor the seller as they should, there's a reason traditional lenders won't help them. You tend to charge them a pretty hefty downpayment and above market rent. I think majority of the time people will want a home and pay and you'll be all good but even if someone craps out on you after a few months you got money upfront and have been collecting above market rent for a few months so you should still come out ahead even with having to evict and letting the house sit vacant for a while. Sammy seems to be the resident expert in this field so maybe he can touch more on this strategy but its something I've briefly investigated and found interesting.

Post: #14

(05-19-2014 07:40 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Who are you? What are your credentials? What business, preferably businesses have you started and developed?

Sorry for being blunt but someone with 5 posts coming here and posting something like that looks and smells like a troll and cannot be taken seriously.

I'm highly skeptical but open to being proven otherwise...

(05-17-2014 03:06 PM)Kapitalist Wrote:  I've always seen a lot about 'where to invest in the market' or where there are high paying jobs on this thread, but never seen anyone who is looking capital to expand or start a business.

Currently, I do not have the time to develop and start a business, but am highly interested in helping someone else (if needed/wanted) start up. Otherwise, what are everyone's thoughts? Thanks for the feedback.

I understand your skepticism, but no trolling here. I am actually an auditor for top 5 accounting firm in the Sioux Falls, SD office. I am 25 years old and have not started a business of any kind, but am looking for a way to contribute to one already started or just look for other ways of passive income. Essentially, public accounting blows and I need to find a way to get out lol.

Post: #15

Kapitalist you are like the most spectacular girl that is actually not a whore or gold digger and wants to stay with the guy and everybody is happy

what kind of businesses you are more prone to? real estate, start up companies developing web apps and any sort of programming apps? let us know

good to know you are not a troll and thanks for sharing the info with us.

Post: #16

I need an investment of around $30,000 usd.

The business is an agency that helps send Koreans, Japanese and Chinese to the UK to study abroad.

The agency earns income in three separate ways:

1: Commission of 20-40% for every student who goes to the UK (around $70-$140 a week per student, usually for a period of at least 4 months but up to a year. S each student is worth at least $1120 up to $6000 a year)

2: Resume and personal statement services, $300 one time fee for each student.

3: One to one private lessons with students before they go to the UK. $50 an hour. They usually do 2 hours a week for 6 weeks, so $600.

USP is that I am English, know England like the back for my hand and have studied at 3 different universities.

I don't know where to get the initial investment. I'm currently saving by doing no.3 and earn around $3950 a month and can save, after all expenses, $1500 a month. That puts me at about 2 years away from the goal.

Any thoughts?



How will you get your clients from original countries? How much will each client cost?

Post: #17

I live in Korea, gf is Korean, sister is fluent in Chinese and I have an ex gf in Japan

Post: #18

(05-23-2014 02:13 AM)2014 Wrote:  I live in Korea, gf is Korean, sister is fluent in Chinese and I have an ex gf in Japan

Sent you a PM