Post: #5176

Quote:I asked one plate who I really should consider ditching (and I'm only keeping her so I can bang her sister) who is no more than a 6.5 about OKCupid when she was on it, she told me she gets a shitload of messages but chooses to ignore 98% of them. I asked her why, she said that she's not attracted to them.

I've been on dates with girls who've told me the same thing. I've also made some of them show me their in-box.

So to speak.

Even the most average girls are bombarded, this goes without saying. But if they're on a date with YOU, that proves you have looks/game and you're in the upper percentile. These chicks do get a ton of messages but they're usually of the "hey" variety - or the men are just so fucking supplicating and boring that separating yourself from these chumps is relatively easy. Whether you get to fuck them once you get them out is another matter entirely.

Post: #5177

So I'm pipelining right now for another work trip to the US that will segue into a Power Trip like I've had reports on previously (1, 2).

And I have to say... those of you who say OKC has dried up and it's now a lost cause. I have no idea what the fuck you guys are talking about. I have to start another spread sheet to keep track of the numbers, one model, one NPC bikini contender, one a bottle fairy etc...

Post: #5178

(01-31-2016 11:39 AM)Vicious Wrote:  So I'm pipelining right now for another work trip to the US that will segue into a Power Trip like I've had reports on previously (1, 2).

And I have to say... those of you who say OKC has dried up and it's now a lost cause. I have no idea what the fuck you guys are talking about. I have to start another spread sheet to keep track of the numbers, one model, one NPC bikini contender, one a bottle fairy etc...

What city are you targeting?

I have a gut feeling its NYC; which happens to have good ratios, thirsty women, and a very strong OKC base since that's where OKC started I believe. If we are talking anywhere else, I'd be really surprised.

EDIT: I just looked over your Power Trip reports and both were in NYC so I'm gonna assume that's the case for now. You had super nice logistics (lower Manhattan + nice upscale places) and are apparently Scandinavian (probably tall in a town of many short men).

Not trying to diminish your game skills at all but that's like a perfect storm for getting tons of quality pussy: Lower Manhattan, upscale residence, foreign (the attractive kind), and apparently doing well financially.

Most guys using OKC are NOT in lower Manhattan and lower Manhattan is worlds apart in every possible sense from rest of the US when it comes to women options.

Post: #5179

OKC sucks in NYC now. I live in Lower Manhattan.

Post: #5180

(01-31-2016 01:24 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  OKC sucks in NYC now. I live in Lower Manhattan.

I was in Manhattan this past year and pipelined before visiting using OKC at that time and it was worlds apart from any other location I've used OKC in. I felt like a chick getting tons of messages, endless phone numbers, and aggressive women who wanted to meet ASAP and were pissed when I would cancel on them for a better option a day in advance.

Maybe OKC sucks today relative speaking but lower Manhattan is on another scale regardless of dating platform when compared to other places in the US.

Post: #5181

(01-31-2016 01:24 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  OKC sucks in NYC now. I live in Lower Manhattan.

You are basically the type I was directing the above to.

Post: #5182

I'm actually getting more mileage on OKC than tinder in Houston, but that isn't saying much. Plus Houston is no NYC.

Post: #5183

I've been back on OKC after trying POF and I think the biggest thing with your messaging is to have it congruent to your profile, my profile is a joke, which says "I'm not taking this shit serious, I'm just here to fuck around" and when I send messages, I make sure they're conveying this same message. My messages aren't very long nor detailed, usually I'm busting the girls balls and I've got about 6 replies back from the 20 or so messages I sent. I've tried to put effort into my messages and it never works, I always get ignored and to be honest I don't give a fuck what her dreams and aspirations are, I barely know her.

Post: #5184

(01-31-2016 03:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

(01-31-2016 01:24 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  OKC sucks in NYC now. I live in Lower Manhattan.

You are basically the type I was directing the above to.

How does it help other guys to improve their game, though? Basically what you are saying is "Be attractive, don't be unattractive. Be rich, don't be unrich".

Any specific, actionable steps you would recommend other than that?

Btw, I wouldn't say OKC sucks in NY. I mean, it's all relative. It sucks compared to a major city in SEA, for example. It's probably a lot better than anywhere else in the US.

Post: #5185

(01-31-2016 07:53 AM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  I'm working my leads on online dating 2 weeks prior to valentine's day, you'd hope all the lonely girls will come out.

At the moment they aren't.

I've had some bangs but OKCupid has generally been abysmal for me in the past 3 months. It also barely has any hot girls left they all seem to be on Happn or SA and maybe some left on Tinder. They probably view it as less geeky and more fun to have it on their phone (their secret modern attention devices) and more of a little game thing for Happn and Tinder, while SA is for the status/money.

I asked one plate who I really should consider ditching (and I'm only keeping her so I can bang her sister) who is no more than a 6.5 about OKCupid when she was on it, she told me she gets a shitload of messages but chooses to ignore 98% of them. I asked her why, she said that she's not attracted to them. I just view it that she has options and it would take a fucking stunning looking guy with near perfect text game to get her excited on there.

It's completely fucking imbalanced.

It was dead for me for a while but it's starting to pick up now. I've hopefully got two solid prospects giving out phone #'s and down to meet, both late 20s and well into "7" territory.

If they actually come through it will be the best quality I've pulled from the site, period. But I try to stay realistic. They both say in their profiles that they're looking for LTRs...serial dater detection systems are on high alert. But sometimes I guess the hot ones put that because they don't want to be thought of as...well...you know.

Yeah I've heard that even from a sort of chubby girl in her early 20s I met over the summer, they delete everything. If you're not really really good looking everything about your text game right from your clever opening message that she's never seen before has to be tight, and one whiff of neediness or weirdness and they're outta there. It's actually pretty good practice for real life where you'll usually get a little bit more time on stage if she's feeling you, like training with a weighted bat. If you can successfully translate it. You're pulling more than I am for sure so don't feel bad! I can't spin plates because I don't even have a plate to spin. Outside of NYC the Northeast is a grind. Got probably 6 prospects from both online and off over the past 2 weeks - all went ghost suddenly before I could get them to agree on a meet, or hit me with a lame flake (so and so attempted suicide was one particularly psychotic example.)

Never tried Happn. Is it another one of those Facebook-linking deals?

Post: #5186

Quote: does it help other guys to improve their game, though? Basically what you are saying is "Be attractive, don't be unattractive. Be rich, don't be unrich".

Any specific, actionable steps you would recommend other than that?

I've maintained no such alleged arrogance. I made a comment merely on the talent pool available.

My direct advice on the how can be found deep in this thread and the ones I linked.

Post: #5187

(01-31-2016 09:14 PM)the1element Wrote:  I've been back on OKC after trying POF and I think the biggest thing with your messaging is to have it congruent to your profile, my profile is a joke, which says "I'm not taking this shit serious, I'm just here to fuck around" and when I send messages, I make sure they're conveying this same message. My messages aren't very long nor detailed, usually I'm busting the girls balls and I've got about 6 replies back from the 20 or so messages I sent. I've tried to put effort into my messages and it never works, I always get ignored and to be honest I don't give a fuck what her dreams and aspirations are, I barely know her.

The type of opening message I send that "relates to the profile and her aspirations" is something like...if a girl says she works in education and is concerned about children's futures I'd go:

"The state of American education: garbage city."

Works pretty good, if the "joke" profile thing is what you're working with.

Some of the women I've closed with told me that my opening messages were the best they've ever gotten on the site, so I mean, it seems I'm also being honest.

Post: #5188

Oh god, I'm trolling this girl on OKC... she's got to be the most uptight hamster I've ever encountered. I'm debating whether to post screenshots of the conversation (no pictures no screenames).

Post: #5189

(02-01-2016 01:11 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Oh god, I'm trolling this girl on OKC... she's got to be the most uptight hamster I've ever encountered. I'm debating whether to post screenshots of the conversation (no pictures no screenames).

I wouldn't post screenshots of particular conversations here, but that's just me.

I think only Reddit feminists have the power to do that without incurring risk. In "blue pill" forums a man could post a screenshot of a woman doing the most wack-out shit imaginable, and there would be 50 white knights to step up to tell him how correct she was. Sometimes an Instagram ho on OKC will respond to one of my messages in a hostile way, and you just know they're trying to goad you into saying something misogynistic so they can screencap that shit and post it to their social media accounts and watch the sympathy tears flow. I guess enough guys fall for it to make it a worthwhile hobby.

It's why you always eject from a girl's profile (among all the other reasons) if she expresses feminist leanings. Many of them are saving and screenshotting shit and passing it around, running their own little "social experiments." They don't give a shit if they use your picture, screen name, real name, whatever. Zero consequences for doing so. Publicly shaming you for not adhering to whatever standard of behavior that exists in their head is the name of the game.

It's kind of a shame, because I certainly have some winners. The type of hostile, perverse, and bizarre things women will say apropos of nothing when they're anonymous and one isn't even trolling, just being perfectly "normal", is pretty stunning. Guess it's a universal human quality.

Another reason to never put the pussy on a pedestal.

Post: #5190

Decided against posting screenshots out of an abundance of caution... what with more eyes than ever watching this forum and all the meetup stuff going on now.

Post: #5191

Just signed up for an OkCupid profile as an alternative way to get more girls on the days I can't go out and approach. I don't use tinder or any other dating apps because I don't have facebook or any other social media. Just snapchat.

I'm getting familiar with how things work and I have a lot of cute girls in my area since I live in Los Angeles.

So for my main profile picture I posted a pic of me and 3 other cute girls walking through the streets of LA at night.

That pic alone got several girls to view my profile after I liked them. Then they messaged me.

I'm going to try to read the last 10-20 pages of this thread to get updated advice, tips and tricks on how this app can best be used.

Thanks fellas.

Edit. I just uploaded a photo of my at a University Undie Run Kissing a girl with her tits almost busting out her bra. I'm going to have it as my main profile pic and see how girls react.

Also a way I been girls who visit my page to message me is when they view my page I send them a message saying "Damn how u just gonna pass by my neighborhood and not say hi" so far it's working. Hopefully it will turn into a date/lay by the end of this superbowl weekend.

Post: #5192

Just uploaded several more selfie photos of me kissing hot girls with a snapchat caption saying "This Could Be Us ?". I hope it works well since girls love a guy with options, it displays my player status, and it will quickly weed out the non-dtf girls and time wasters who are attention whoring for validation.

Post: #5193

Strangest thing ever happened to me today.

I scored the number of a legit 9 on POF. 25, brunette, great rack. Traded some texts with her on and off for about a week - her responses were always timely and flirty. Noticed the other day that she had deleted her POF account (great sign, she won't be coming from a place of abundance, and shows she has standards). Could not find her on Facebook, but her number did come back in Google as being attached to her name. Forward to today and we're texting back and forth...



Guess what happened the second after I sent that last message?

Blocked. Yes, that's right - blocked. I can only imagine I failed some kind of shit-test - I had considered typing something sexually suggestive to her issue about the jumping-into-bed thing, but she had told me a week or two ago about how shy she is about dating, and I didn't want to scare the cat right at the moment I was about to get her to commit to a meet. I had thought quite a while about my response to that text, and I went with being fairly cautious.

I think what is more likely is that she realised she had used up all her validation chips and there was nowhere else to go but swiftly exit stage right.

Post: #5194

^ it wasn't a shit test, as I mention above the sites are jammed full of women these days who either aren't really there to meet guys at all, or will chat with tons of random guys and only make immediate plans with the perfect ones and dump the rest into the "stringer" bin. The very first chick I talked to attempted to run "stringer" game on me while she was meeting up with other dudes.

Don't spend a second worrying about it, it happens to me constantly. You did the right thing in pushing for the real life meet quickly. Many, many women will peace out at that point. You just shrug and say "Glad she didn't waste my time."

Hot girl game on OKC (when they actually want to meet someone):

put up pics, write some BS, kick back with Netflix and wait for the messages to come rolling in. Look at the pics, if they find them cute, read the message. That eliminates 95% of the stuff in the mailbox immediately. Pick say the top 10 options, respond and hook them. Make plans with the top couple guys, but hold a few back in reserve and try to keep them on the line in case the priority options bail out or turn out to be duds. If one of the secondary options doesn't want to play and pushes to be a priority option too hard when plans with the priority options are still pending, eject and wait for another.

That's the essence of Hot Girl game on OKC. I know this because...well...that's what some have told me they do.

And if you can pull it off, as a man it's what you should be trying to do as well. Though you'll probably have to be the one to send a lot more openers, in most cases.

lol @ the "I'm not the type of girl to..." Tell me another one, Charlie.

It's encouraging that there seems to be some good talent on POF in your area - it's pretty much worthless here.

Post: #5195

(02-02-2016 09:10 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  ^ it wasn't a shit test, as I mention above the sites are jammed full of women these days who either aren't really there to meet guys at all, or will chat with tons of random guys and only make immediate plans with the perfect ones and dump the rest into the "stringer" bin. The very first chick I talked to attempted to run "stringer" game on me while she was meeting up with other dudes.

Don't spend a second worrying about it, it happens to me constantly. You did the right thing in pushing for the real life meet quickly. Many, many women will peace out at that point. You just shrug and say "Glad she didn't waste my time."

Thanks for the reply. I always go for the meet as quickly as possible to weed out the time-wasters. This was the first time I've ever had this happen - usually these chicks will just agree to the date but then flake at the 11th hour.

Post: #5196

Well shit. Got a message from a girl on Sunday, but didn't get a notification like I usually do on my phone. Check tonight and her account is deleted.

Looked like it was a home run from her reply message too...

Post: #5197

(02-02-2016 06:27 AM)LA Savage Wrote:  Just uploaded several more selfie photos of me kissing hot girls with a snapchat caption saying "This Could Be Us ?". I hope it works well since girls love a guy with options, it displays my player status, and it will quickly weed out the non-dtf girls and time wasters who are attention whoring for validation.

Save the selfies for snapchat. If you're 9/10 male model it may work, haha. I'd suggest one or two pro/dslr camera shots. One profile and one suited. The kissing could backfire and come off as try-hard to a lot of females. The key is a few quality pics, solid/original profile, and good text game. I think Rem and Kaotic do decent profile reviews. I'd shoot either of them a pm when you feel its complete.

Post: #5198

Me: "blah blah... so lets meet at X on Y. You're in?"
Her: "I must quickly go to bed, will write you tomorrow. Good night."

An hour later she is still online.

Post: #5199

^ don't worry about it, it doesn't mean anything. I'm pretty sure as long as they have the app enabled on their iPhone (that's what they have of course) and it's actively sending "push" notifications to the lock screen, it will show them as online. Doesn't mean they're not actually sleeping or doing anything else. Getting miffed if you see a chick still listed as "online" even after you've just had a "good date" with her is a dummy move as well.

It's just like Facebook, they're running it all the time.

Post: #5200

Does anyone have a definitive translation on what "Not looking for a serious relationship immediately, but not looking for a hookup" means when translated from womanese?

I have my own ideas, but I'm interested in how others interpet that little piece of contradiction in terms...