Post: #51

To the OP: I just want to say that I've had a LOT of awkward, unpleasant interactions with women. It gets better. And then it gets much better.

And everyone here is going to be giving you this advice and that advice, some of it conflicting.

But believe me, if you keep going out and putting in the work, you're going to figure this thing out and then some. I promise you bro.

My only suggestion is that you go with an attitude of wanting to learn which is different from mindlessly doing approaches. If a group blows you out or a girl gives you a bad reaction, ASK them honestly what you said or did that caused that reaction. They'll tell you.

The girl said you were sarcastic. Listen to her, you were sarcastic. She's celebrating her birthday in a bar, so what? It's as good a place as any. You could've given her some birthday cock but instead you shitted on her choice of venue. She told you exactly what you did wrong.

It's true that asking women for advice is useless but asking women for FEEDBACK is priceless. I still do it and I still learn new shit daily.

I learned most of my game FROM women. They taught me almost everything I know. Not all, but most. I asked them a lot of questions. And the great majority of them, when they see your frustration and your earnest attempt to figure out what you did to put them off, they will often level with you and encourage you like "keep working on it man."

My 2 cents. Keep at it.

Post: #52

(05-10-2014 10:53 AM)earless Wrote:  me:Let me say one thing, ive ordered four different beers and they all taste the same to me.

What you should have done is asked them what kind of beer they prefer, and then recommend one (whichever one, doesn't matter - what do chicks know about beer anyway). Be the connoisseur, tell them a little story about the beer. Follow up with a story of a crazy night out that started with drinking that beer for the first time. Engage.

I have 3-4 stories that I tell to a lot of chicks, that include emotional and dhv's without having to say them out loud specifically.