Post: #51

I went to law school in England. I chose not to become a lawyer but still have a fair number of friends who are lawyers.
If its a US-centric question its difficult for me to answer.

I found in one business area, Americans (male or female) were very very abrupt compared to their English counterparts.
In another area, they were actually far more polite and likeable.

Vis a vis British (God that sounds lawyerlike hahah!) American women in general seem to be more aggressive, masculinised and therefore unlikeable.

Overall though, I think the question is, WHAT type of lawyer, vs what type of other woman? British family solicitor females tend to be fine. Corporate lawyer women are not so good. Female barristers are (often!) utterly UTTERLY horrendous, as are their male counterparts, in many areas of the law.

At law school, I found them to be a mixed bunch. Very unattractive generally. And a fair number of law students confided in me "I don't tend to like law students". Their focus was on work and career so they didn't tend to be rounded individuals.

Some lawyers tend to have a chip on the shoulder. They love snide comments but can't take any "banter" themselves. They resent businessmen who earn more money than them. As kids they were told they were super clever. And later on they don't want to face the truth that they often aren't as smart as what they thought they were.

Most successful female lawyers for my age (corp solicitors) I know were actually the hottest ones at my law school.
In truth they are glorified prostitutes who were pussy for promotion.

I wouldn't have a problem dating one again. But if I heard any "strong independent woman" type talk, I'd bin her quicker than a sandwich with dogshit on the top.

Post: #52

Years ago met, dated, and lived with a Japanese girl who had aspirations of law school. Some red flags on anger issues,!childhood neglect, no stable father figure but I bravely pushed through to get the bang. Though fully regretted it later. Intellectual discussion were deep and rich, sex was intense, moods was unstable. She went from incredible passion to insane anger. Likely was the first borderline personality disorder girl I'd dated. Wounds lasted a while.

Met and dated In this this era, lawyer chicks are more insufferable and unbelievably more dangerous - how could they not be? Combining female solipsism with entitlement for unearned rights and endless imagined wrongs, doubtless all suffering from TDS while being utterly privileged.

Lawyer chicks are poisonous, deluded, damaged goods. #JustSayNo

Post: #53

Some women that are ugly, need a carreer, such as a lawyer, in order to feel better about themselves. It gives them a certain sense in their life and they feel more at ease, having that carreer, around people in general. They wouldn't fit with avarage (attractive) girls who are simple minded and not focused on career at all. I do have slightly more esteem for those 'ugly' women and their career, because they often stay humble about it and just need their career to fit in society. A beautiful chick as a lawyer is not bad, but just increadibly stupid and annoying ;-)

Post: #54

The problem is that the law profession in many ways is what has ruined the US. At least if you're ugly, be a physician and try your best to help people and their communities. Don't add to the games, animosity and invention of law through sophistry and win at all costs, garbage.

If you're decent looking or better why go into medicine either? You're just going to be a high level worker bee, but now you lost your high stock 20s, and you've got the anti-dowry (400k loans?) to boot. What a society. Parents unaware of it at this point are even more responsible for this idiocy. Ha, and they have the nerve to mention grandkids, lol

Post: #55

I am going to dump my personal experiences with women in Law School. Please note that I attend an urban school in the United States and it probably does vary place to place. There are also expectations to many of the generalities I post.

Pros:
Not freeloaders- Many of there women have paid for my drinks and insist on paying half.
Generally not crazy- For the most part they are pretty well put together and wont end up stalking you when you trash the plate.
Conversational- Lawyering is a talking profession and these women are more then able to hold a conversation and sometimes will actually be interesting.

Cons:
Very Busy or claims of Busy- Trying to set up a date is next to impossible which is why I only do spontaneous in-person requests to do stuff.
Shit Personalities- These girls know their value, and if they are attractive to boot they walk and talk with a certain, "im always going to more valuable then you".

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The game I have run on these girls with admittedly "moderate" (1 notch, 3 dates with different girl, only 4 approaches though) success is the same 1, attract, 2 comfort, 3 seduce. The twist being is I can stand out from the chaff of law school guys. I just portray confidence and calmness in a industry of stress and worry.

I can go into more detail if people would like.

Post: #56

(10-25-2018 09:42 AM)Funkbus40 Wrote:  I am going to dump my personal experiences with women in Law School. Please note that I attend an urban school in the United States and it probably does vary place to place. There are also expectations to many of the generalities I post.

Pros:
Not freeloaders- Many of there women have paid for my drinks and insist on paying half.
Generally not crazy- For the most part they are pretty well put together and wont end up stalking you when you trash the plate.
Conversational- Lawyering is a talking profession and these women are more then able to hold a conversation and sometimes will actually be interesting.

Cons:
Very Busy or claims of Busy- Trying to set up a date is next to impossible which is why I only do spontaneous in-person requests to do stuff.
Shit Personalities- These girls know their value, and if they are attractive to boot they walk and talk with a certain, "im always going to more valuable then you".

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The game I have run on these girls with admittedly "moderate" (1 notch, 3 dates with different girl, only 4 approaches though) success is the same 1, attract, 2 comfort, 3 seduce. The twist being is I can stand out from the chaff of law school guys. I just portray confidence and calmness in a industry of stress and worry.

I can go into more detail if people would like.

I had exactly the opposite experience regarding the bolded part above, though she didn't make it passed the first year.

Post: #57

I was set up on a Date with a Moderately Attractive "7" Lawyer who was my similar ethnic mix Teutonic Celtic Roman... So we make a plan to go to a movie I wanted to see - she texts lets meet at XYZ bar lounge - where her Appetizers and Booze scarfing SheWhale friend was stuffing her face to the tune of a $200 tab... Chump change but I found out that she had made plans to meet the she-whale prior to confirming meeting me and was a golden setup to smoothly manipulate me into picking up the exhorbitant Tab... Money is Chump Change compared to what I daily make or drawdown in the markets... But I was most pissed that 1. I did not get to see my Movie, 2. Was manipulated ahead of time to pick up their Tab and 3. Found out she was a defense attorney and was surrounded by a negative vortex of Drugs Dealing Scumbags and illegal crimaliens.... A vortex I have carefully avoided my entire life and can to this day pass a detailed Background check with pre-employment drugs sceenings.

Same buddy who set us up asked why I stopped returning her calls - when I told him Matter of Fact what she did to automatically manipulate and control relationship frame he completely understood and never brought it up again.

Lastly a Female Attorney has UNLIMITED Legal Resources at her disposal when the time comes that she decides to Divorce Rape you for the 1,000 canned reasons they are taught in Law School whereas you have to pay $300 per hour plus all court expenses.

Nuff said...

Post: #58

I met three lawyer chicks before and they were really stunning. Though never pursued anything with them cause I was meeting them in an official capacity.

Post: #59

Well as a former lawyer I'll provide a rebuttal. I've slept with a few law school students and lawyers, and even thought I was going to marry one at one point.

First, I wouldn't diss a girl because she's in law school. If she's hot and you like her then go for it. In America I wager that 60% of law students are in law school because they have nothing else to do. They can't get into to biz school, med school or dental school and they don't have the balls or inclinations to start a business or do other things. I think only a quarter of students actually want to be a lawyer, with the rest of them in school because their parents were lawyers and it's expected that they become lawyers as well.

And most of the hot law school students I've met where there because of their parents or because they had no idea what to do after undergrad. So chances are the hot law school girl is in law school because she has nothing else to do.

And I should point out that the hotter girls at my law school are now married to either successful lawyers or other successful guys and few, if any, are practicing anymore. In fact the girl I wanted to marry is now having kids with her in-house corporate lawyer husband and isn't practicing. And most lawyers 5+ years out of law school will tell you that's how it is; the hotter girls get married and stop working.

So for law school girls you guys should proceed as normal.

For practicing lawyers it's a little bit different. If she's just out of law school or has been practicing for under 5 years then you should still proceed, but cautiously. The newly minted junior associate make great plates; they're worked like slaves and don't have time to message you all day or see you more than twice a week. And if you give her good sex then she'll call you on a Sunday or Tuesday night to come over for sex. She literally doesn't have the time for you and her weekends are reserved for family/friends. It's a perfect arrangement for many players, because she's stressed and lonely and literally needs your cock to take the edge off.

But you should be cautious because once these junior associates realize just how shitty law practice is they'll start looking for ways out and start husband hunting. This is where hypergamy kicks in so if you're in a less prestigious career or make less than 100k then you're good. Keep banging. But if you're successful then you either got to bail or have frame because she will try to snag you.

For lawyers who've been practicing for over 5 years are the ones you want to avoid. If she hasn't been wifed up within 5 years then she has issues or isn't that hot and you can do better. Plus she'll likely be over 30 so unless you're over 40 or into your 50s it's not worth the trouble.
*Although these girls make great plates/booty calls but you got to have the frame to deal with them, and many of them like I said have issues. I used to bang a 35 year old one who had some issues and was a borderline alcoholic. Naturally, I bailed as soon as I could.

Post: #60

(10-21-2018 07:57 AM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  I went to law school in England. I chose not to become a lawyer but still have a fair number of friends who are lawyers.
If its a US-centric question its difficult for me to answer.

I found in one business area, Americans (male or female) were very very abrupt compared to their English counterparts.
In another area, they were actually far more polite and likeable.

Legal education is very different in the U.S. than England or most of the Continent.

In the U.S., after 4 years of university, you attend law school for another 3 years.

My understanding of Europe is that the path is much shorter, basically an undergraduate major focus of study, with perhaps an apprenticeship at the end.

Lawyers in the U.S. have a very cynical and skewed way of looking at things that comes from the Socratic method of instruction in the first year of law school.

The other thing in the U.S. is that 7 years of education is very expensive and people become indebted. They become wage slaves and tend to be miserable.

Bottom line is yes female lawyers really are that bad.

Post: #61

Did not read thread...but the answer is YES, they are awful.

Post: #62

I don't think so

Post: #63

26 year old here, and all the girls I have gotten with who ended up going to law school/expressing an interest in law school...have been amongst the more personality annoying girls I have gotten with. There's just an anal-ness about them.

Post: #64

Not an expert on lawyer broads by any means, however I'm nailing one right now and the woman is sweet as punch. Full disclosure I am in my early 30s uneducated and she is older (40ish, never married, no kids, decent body for a woman of that vintage) and I think just looking for a boy toy to fuck her good once in a while.. I see her about 2 times a month and she always pays for everything and basically acts like a sugar mama so I got nothing to complain about

Post: #65

I've had one 3 year LTR with a lawyer chick, and wouldn't do that again. I wished her the best but it wasn't working out (she was always busy and I work crazy hours, so the free time I had she was unavailable).

Post: #66

Honestly could be that she has a good personality, but I personally would stay away from chicks working in fields where its long hours and, they never really off the clock out on their days off such as lawyers and medical doctors. Unless its a same day bang then that's something else but if you want to have a relationship with one its going to be difficult.

I myself work as a physician and the last thing I want to come home to is someone who is burned out the same level as me. I remember when it came to relationships back in medschool, those who dated non-medical people had a more successful relationship than those who dated other medical students.

But same day bang is quite easy with girls in those time consuming fields. Because they dont really have a time for stabil relationship, and mostly looking for a bang.

Truth is they want a guy who is accepting of their schedules, but even the most beta one will get tired of not getting attention lol.

Post: #67

Met a lawyergirl and we dated through this summer. She's into her master and also worked a year in a firm. Pretty new into my comeback in game, it was kinda hard to handle all of her shittests.

I think she has borderline, and maybe it's the kind of characteristics that comes along with the job and in general being a highvaluegirl.
It was literally like everything you say can be hold against you, and she said that she remembers EVERYTHING I put out of my mouth.
In a warning tone.
A couple of months later when shit eventually went down, she looked like a raging bull with a smoking nose.
She called me back a couple of weeks later and tried to manipulate me back. Wellwell.

Post: #68

Never, ever date lawyer girls for this reason. At the most minor conflict you will find you have suddenly become a witness testifying against yourself, and you will be unable to plead the fifth. You will never, ever win, because she is your jury, judge, and executioner. You will find yourself in Kangaroo court. You will find that even when they are not upset, they will get into arguments with you merely to "practice" their arguing skills.

Post: #69

(10-30-2018 02:49 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  26 year old here, and all the girls I have gotten with who ended up going to law school/expressing an interest in law school...have been amongst the more personality annoying girls I have gotten with. There's just an anal-ness about them.

Bumping as I'm fucking an actual lawyer chick now...and the trend continues. Takes SSRIs and may be legit crazy. Above average in bed though. And great fake tits.

Post: #70

I never run into female lawyers in real life. My only experience with female lawyers has been on apps and before apps launch, sites.

I noticed that almost all the female lawyers flaked on me before actually meeting me in person. I couldn't deal with that. Female lawyers work way too much for me to have a sustainable relationship with them. I would even have a difficult time spinning one of them as a plate because I do want my plates to show up and not cancel last minute due to work. If I'm spinning multiple plates and the lawyer plate cancels, it's not a big deal for me to reach out to a different plate and get a bang within 48 hours, but it is annoying.

Post: #71

YES

Post: #72

Female lawyers are absolutely horrible people. Male lawyers aren’t too much better

Post: #73

(10-25-2018 09:42 AM)Funkbus40 Wrote:  I am going to dump my personal experiences with women in Law School. Please note that I attend an urban school in the United States and it probably does vary place to place. There are also expectations to many of the generalities I post.

Pros:
Not freeloaders- Many of there women have paid for my drinks and insist on paying half.
Generally not crazy- For the most part they are pretty well put together and wont end up stalking you when you trash the plate.
Conversational- Lawyering is a talking profession and these women are more then able to hold a conversation and sometimes will actually be interesting.

Cons:
Very Busy or claims of Busy- Trying to set up a date is next to impossible which is why I only do spontaneous in-person requests to do stuff.
Shit Personalities- These girls know their value, and if they are attractive to boot they walk and talk with a certain, "im always going to more valuable then you".

----------------------------------------

The game I have run on these girls with admittedly "moderate" (1 notch, 3 dates with different girl, only 4 approaches though) success is the same 1, attract, 2 comfort, 3 seduce. The twist being is I can stand out from the chaff of law school guys. I just portray confidence and calmness in a industry of stress and worry.

I can go into more detail if people would like.

Crazy is just a subcategory for shit personality.

Post: #74

(04-27-2014 11:09 AM)Deluge Wrote:  The George Clooney engagement thread got me thinking about something, are female lawyers really all that bad? I'm well aware of the stereotype about them being ball busting, over-ambitious, unfeminine and so on, but I find it hard to square with my experience with female law students on my campus.

I know a lot of law students on campus, I've gotten with a few of them and there's a lot of them in some of my classes, they even make a majority of the students in one of my majors. I've found them to be no more masculine than the liberal arts students, the 2nd most attractive (after the health/nutrition girls) and for what it's worth the most intelligent, so I struggle to understand what the forum thinks is wrong with them. Out of many law girls I only know two who turned out to fit the ball-busting stereotype and both were outliers, one lesbian and one libertarian that I briefly casually dated a while back who somehow still came off as feminine...

A bit of background on the situation here: most professional entry postgraduate degrees like law or medicine are mainly done at the undergraduate level in my country, with most law students here completing a 5 year long concurrent B.A/LL.B double degree (a Bachelor degree alone takes 3 years here) to lighten the load of starting a law degree while still a teenager. As such, almost all the people I know in the field of law are still in their late teens or early 20's. These girls also all come from well-off families and elite private high schools and needed to graduate high school the top 2% of the state grade wise (like most degrees in the country admission is based solely on academics) to get into law at my university, and in my opinion girls from that kind of background are usually better than average both looks and personality wise, which I think is the reason why the law girls are one of the hottest groups on my campus.

So either these girls are going to go downhill really fast when they actually start work as lawyers (albeit a fair few of them say they have no interest in actually doing so), the situation at my university is an exception to the norm or the stereotype of the lawyer cunt is overblown.

Can any RVF lawyers with intimate knowledge of this topic chime in?

I am a lawyer.

The women in law school were terrible. I see it better now, 10 years removed. It was like they were confused on how to live, the female in them wanted alpha men, but society (and especially) law school encourages a more masculine behavior in them, so they are aggressive at times, and repulsed by men in law school that are having to give up a portion of their maleness to the political correctness of law school.

While they have psycho / emotional mental war between new age fem power and their biology, they will blame their confusion on your inability to attract them and make things make sense to them. If you are Alpha, and they give in to their biology, their sense of shame afterwards may cause them to blame you (female solipsism) and that may put you at risk.

I would avoid women lawyers like the plague.


Mr. 225

Post: #75

Agree with above posters.

Have dated 3 lawyers... all really beautiful people.. before they became lawyers.

Watching the disintegration as they pulled their all nighters at work, became manly competitors and chased corporate status like rats hit cocaine in controlled environments, has been eye opening. Not only do they neglect their femininity and sexuality, which they're comfortable doing given their status is on point, they rationalise the possibility that they'll be left on the shelf.. and chalk it up to 'men don't like smart women', 'just not pretty enough'', rather than first admitting to and then dealing with their status addictions. Most people in their 20s realise what's up, what's real, what's fake. Not these girls.

I remember sitting next to one at a work dinner, she was super senior, in her 40s and we didn't have any work reason to speak or network at all, but she still wanted to draw knives and attack. It's the same pattern in all these girls. They believe their aggressiveness and intellect will help them outside of work too... couldn't be more tragic.