Post: #101

(04-15-2014 11:18 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  The point is even if he makes 100k+ in the US fisto still prefers his lifestyle in DR. Thats where you two differ. Nothing wrong with either point of view. I'd probably fall right in between you guys as to my views. Both of you guys appear happy with your chosen lifestyles / goals and that's all that matters in the end.

WestCoast said an "online business".

Having an online business means you can live anywhere and make money.

$100k a year, would probably have one ballin out in DR. (I'm not an expert since I've never been there, but based on what posters have said etc).

Sounds like a good idea to me actually. (not for myself but someone else)

Post: #102

I stand corrected!

Post: #103

Favourite G quote of mine:

"...Keep in mind though, I am used to doing it like Penny: The Hardaway."

Post: #104

(04-15-2014 11:08 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Anyway, that is the real painful part I am pointing out. As a personal comment I see no reason why you (fisto) in particular cannot make $100K a year online. You have the right type for it 1) charisma, 2) fitness, 3) decent looking dude, 4) time.

I would start that thing because I would pay for whatever product you came out with. You write an e-book on staying in your ridiculous shape while partying I will guarantee I will pay $10 for that product. I would not pay 1 penny for fuck stories across the globe though, that is just me.

There is 0 shot you can't make a product that is innovative based on your crazy life having stayed in shape through all of it. So much so I am saying point blank I will buy it.

Travel can be lucrative. I know a guy that did well in that market until 911 happened. I don't know how stable it is but maybe doing something like Bourdains show could be a hit.

A lot of work but Fisto and THC are smart enough to pull it off. I love travel shows.

I don't think bang reports will appeal to the wider market, though. hah

For me, I wouldn't be able to develop a productive routine if I was drinking all the time or going from one country to another. That is one of the reasons I planted myself where I am until I finish what I need to do.

It sounds like Fisto and THC are more interested in partying and traveling which is cool but very difficult to develop any type of business while doing it.

At least from my experience.

Anyway, back to the G stuff... I think people are too focused on the guy and the way he posts instead of the content. Either way, he still has people talking about him and he hasn't posted anything here for some time.

I thought it was obvious Beyond Borders was really G. They both write and they both have o's in their names. Simples maths. haha

Post: #105

This thread only confirms that people will believe whatever they want to believe, and when they can't believe it anymore they'll rationalize it and justify it until the end.

Post: #106

(04-15-2014 11:03 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Wow, I have not been following this thread but I just read up on it.

I think it is highly unlikely the g really is a professional jewel thief like he writes about on his blog. Do I care? Not really, it is still a fun blog to read.

I am curious, have any of the guys on here (or anywhere) ever met up with the g? I do think he might be a fun guy to hang out with

(04-15-2014 11:08 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  back to haters gon' hate and never mate or appreciate because they can't contemplate the life you can make

Is this really hating? All the 'hater' talk ignores the fact that practically everyone has commented that they have enjoyed and gained value from his writing. Skeptical and using some critical thinking, sure.

Post: #107

I don't know how my posts are going over people's heads.

Again, if you make money online I will wager whatever you like the vast majority of your income is western based.

Again I think fisto misinterpreted by 2nd post, I think he is personally wasting talent making these guides. I think he should do them as a hobby.

Instead a fitness blog with his face on there explaining how to "stay in shape with a craZy party schedule" and staying separate from the "complainosphere" would make him more $.

Mass market. Tona of drunk college kids trying to do both after they graduate and somehow fisto pulled it off = enter the dream "party + stay on shape" easier said than done and people need that info. I would buy it at that age.

If he actually committed 60+ hours per week doing videos + writing etc I would be first in line to invest in the business. In a year I would not be surprised to see him making some good money.

Unlike others on here he writes the truth so I would take that gamble all day that he has developed interesting knowledge that he hasn't put pen to paper on. Or video to YouTube etc.

Anyway, back to the haterade and or debate.

Post: #108

^ hey now, my point was, if I was jewel thief, and wanted to make sure I was never caught, the last thing I would do is write a blog about being a jewel thief.

I actually like the g and hope he comes back, it's good to have characters like that around.

Post: #109

Come on guys, some of the shit the guy says is so over the top. He claims he knows a hitman:

http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2005/12/g-m...night.html

When it is just a rip off from this:

http://mirror.die.net/hitman/2.html

yes, source is puahate....


It's like the time I caught my aunt unloading Christmas presents out the back of her car when I was a little kid.

Just accept that he isn't real.

Post: #110

Fisto should get into yoga training.

Post: #111

(04-15-2014 11:26 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  I thought it was obvious Beyond Borders was really G. They both write and they both have o's in their names. Simples maths. haha

One thing I've found when reading into these internet sleuthing campaigns is they're almost always wrong, often obviously. People give themselves way too much credit for being able to dig up accurate info online.

The sad thing is how much time these guys put into shit that wouldn't even matter if it were true. At least the wacky conspiracy theorists spend their time going on and on about shit that would be extremely important if it turned out it were real.

But wasting all this time picking apart my 2500+ words blog articles and reading thousands upon thousands of posts on this forum by Gmanifesto, Mqueen, Fisto, me, and other supposed G-personas to compile their imaginative stories...and then miss the mark by miles...what a tragic waste of time.

It's laughable they try to pinpoint us as pathetic people when they invest so much energy into these "investigations."

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #112

Just to clarify one thing: I am not a hater. Never was and never will be. Specally not online about someone, whether he happens to be real or fictitious. When I see someone doing good in life, I am genuinely happy for them and congratulate them and see how I can learn from them. I don't denigrate them or start hating on them because they are doing better than me.

In the case of G, at first, I was one of his fans and was reading his posts with great interest as he was someone who was obviously doing Very well. Then, slowly, I noticed some inconsistencies as outlined before.

He also likes to talk positively about the French south west coast, specially around Biarritz, a region I'm very familiar with as that's where I grew up. Since I hadn't been back for a while there, I asked him about what are clubs and bars in vogue there nowadays. He never responded. Even Moma started a thread about Biarritz and the south west coast (cote basque), asking for specific names of bars and clubs. G started replying with generalities but when asked about specific names of clubs, bars, he disappeared.

Am I basing my doubts about him for not responding to inquiries on places? Absolutely not. I do realize and understand that people get busy with more pressing things than responding on a forum and simply forget about threads they were participating in. I get that as it has happened to me more times that I can remember. However, when this happens consistently, then that raises suspicions to say the least.

In regards to the 20k/ day by lunch, he did mention a few times that he makes that by lunch, in cash. Not every day mind you, but most days. I don't have a link to that particular exchange but I do remember it. Again, far from hating on the guy for making that kind of dough. I personally know guys making high 5 figures even 6 figs per day online. I've also had my fair share of more modest success comparatively speaking, with 1k, 2k and even 3k days so I definitely do know that 20k/day is possible.

Again not hating on him for that. Quiet the opposite!

Where I may have my reservations is with the previously mentioned inconsistencies. While the puahate forum is far from being a credible source, the breakdown of G there is not too far fetched from reality if you connect the dots and read between the lines.

Gio,
The links I posted were about G using Qwest's post about Toronto and pass it as his. I don't know about you, but when someone posts a data sheet or when they are asked to share their experiences on a city or country, I expect the person to provide their own personal experiences there, not someone else's. If their experience there is limited or none, then they would simply state that for honesty's sake. For example, when I am asked about China, I always mention as a disclaimer that my experience there is limited and that I invite the China pros, which we do have a few here, to add and or to correct me.

That's what you'd expect from someone who is honest and legit. Doing otherwise would be a foul play and a disservice as people come here looking for first hand feedback prior to a trip. You want the feedback from someone that is knowledgeable and has personally been there recently. The last thing you want is to have someone who hasn't been give you advice ala Dash Global or worst, use someone else's report and pass it as his.

Another thing that made me question him was his insistence on always asking for "busting a datasheet" on places. The people would comply and post detailed posts on the location in question. And then when you asked him later on how did his trip there went, he would not reply. Not once or twice but repeatedly. Mind you I understand plans can change but someone who always asks about places but never goes is more than odd and makes you suspicious about their motives.

I've met and known my fair share of ballas in my travels. The one thing they all have in common is that none of them bothered with pushing low ticket items such as ebooks or books on Amazon. None! None of them spent hours and hours each day online in a forum. None of them inquired about hostels or cheap budget airlines like Ryan Air while preaching to be rolling with the A crowd in style. They were busy actually living their high quality life in real life and not talking or writing about it online as if it were a fantasy screen play.

All in all, if the G is indeed who he has been portraying himself to be, that is the global jet setter rolling with the A crowd while wearing custom made suits and swooping fly models from Barcelona to Cartagena, from Miami to Biarritz, from Sao Paulo to Tokyo, then more power to him and I will be very happy for him. I will have no problems whatsoever to change my views on him. As we say in French, "Y'a que les cons qui ne changent pas d'avis" meaning, only fools don't change their minds. However, until proofs of that, I will keep my views on him as I've mentioned, that is of an entertaining fictitious online persona. Nothing more, nothing less. I will continue to read his posts as entertaining fiction.

All in all, a hater? Hardly! A sceptic? You bet!

Post: #113

(04-16-2014 12:23 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Gio,

The links I posted were about G using Qwest's post about Toronto and pass it as his.

G didn't steal that post!

He quoted Qwest..!

Here is the post you mention:

(11-06-2012 07:09 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Here is a good more recent one:

(09-15-2012 07:27 PM)Qwest Wrote:  Fellas I was just in Toronto

Notice how Qwest's name appears as a quote.

G quoted him.

That is not stealing.

It might have been dodging the question. But, it isn't stealing.

(04-16-2014 12:23 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  In regards to the 20k/ day by lunch, he did mention a few times that he makes that by lunch, in cash.

20k in cash by lunch?!?

I don't ever remember him saying that..

If he did, he was surely being sarcastic

A lot of his "big baller" claims were said facetiously.

*****

I know he is not the guy he claimed to be but if we are gonna discredit a senior member lets at least use verified facts. Not misinterpretations and assumptions.

Nothing personal to you VP, just sorting all the facts, I respect your contributions immensely.

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Post: #115

We are not arguing.

We are holding court.

Roosh Court.

Post: #116

It's fascinating that in a place that claims to be "red pill", whatever that is, most of the guys are ok with being deceived and lied to. Because no one wants to admit they've been duped now you have guys saying things like it's ok if he lied and was a fake because he was entertaining or inspiring. Fuck that, the truth is that people ate it up and now are trying to rationalize it.

I guess I'll be labeled a hater, because if you don't go along with the herd you're a hater, but you can't hate what you think is ridiculous, and that's what his persona is, ridiculous, made to appeal to teen boys and guys that want to believe that kind of gangsta life is real and possible and emulate it. And yes, I've always thought he was ridiculous and at first I didn't even want to write anything because I'm not going to change anyone's mind and, like it's clear on this thread, he's still a sacred cow, but reading the praise this guy gets here is disturbing.

Post: #117

"made to appeal to teen boys and guys that want to believe that kind of gangsta life is real and possible and emulate it."

^^^


It's very possible. How is living a jetset life not possible? Or making mad money? Or banging models?

The haterade is flowing...

Post: #118

(04-16-2014 01:01 AM)Teutatis Wrote:  It's fascinating that in a place that claims to be "red pill", whatever that is, most of the guys are ok with being deceived and lied to. Because no one wants to admit they've been duped now you have guys saying things like it's ok if he lied and was a fake because he was entertaining or inspiring. Fuck that, the truth is that people ate it up and now are trying to rationalize it.

I guess I'll be labeled a hater, because if you don't go along with the herd you're a hater, but you can't hate what you think is ridiculous, and that's what his persona is, ridiculous, made to appeal to teen boys and guys that want to believe that kind of gangsta life is real and possible and emulate it. And yes, I've always thought he was ridiculous and at first I didn't even want to write anything because I'm not going to change anyone's mind and, like it's clear on this thread, he's still a sacred cow, but reading the praise this guy gets here is disturbing.

I am all ears as to how people were duped.

Is it the part about custom suits? People talk about wearing nice fitted clothes all over the forum so it can't be that.

Is it the part where he says smoking helps pick up women? Well, I remember Roosh talking about losing women because he didn't go out and smoke with them so it can't be that.

Is it the part where he talks about locking down places? Well, that has been my experience and many others on the forum so it can't be that.

Is it the part where he talks about high end avenues having better women? I noticed the same as I am sure many others have as well so it can't be that.

Teach us bro, you seem to have seen through the whole facade.

Instead of putting others down and trying to make yourself feel like a special snowflake you should be debating G and anyone else on the forum that is giving bad information.

Haters don't add value, they simply put others down. What do you think you have done in this thread?

Post: #119

Yes McQueen, you're right, I'm a hater and his life is totally plausible.

I know you're another sacred cow that people aren't supposed to question, but are you being dense on purpose or you just love the guy so much? Please tell me if you think the guy and his life is real, I'd like to know your unambiguous opinion. Mine is that he's a total fraud and always has been, what's yours?

Yes, living a jet set lifestyle is possible, yes, making "mad" money is possible, yes, banging models is possible, and there are guys in this world doing it, whoever said the contrary? But reading his delusions here and his blog, all the things that Vacancier Permanent mentioned and many many more he hasn't, do you really believe him?

Post: #120

(04-16-2014 01:11 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  I am all ears as to how people were duped.

Is it the part about custom suits? People talk about wearing nice fitted clothes all over the forum so it can't be that.

Is it the part where he says smoking helps pick up women? Well, I remember Roosh talking about losing women because he didn't go out and smoke with them so it can't be that.

Is it the part where he talks about locking down places? Well, that has been my experience and many others on the forum so it can't be that.

Is it the part where he talks about high end avenues having better women? I noticed the same as I am sure many others have as well so it can't be that.

Teach us bro, you seem to have seen through the whole facade.

Instead of putting others down and trying to make yourself feel like a special snowflake you should be debating G and anyone else on the forum that is giving bad information.

Haters don't add value, they simply put others down. What do you think you have done in this thread?

Actually I agree with you, I shouldn't have said anything, I'm out.

Post: #121

Gio,
G posted Qwest's post when he was asked to post his own personal experiences. He didnt quote it, he simply posted it there as if it were his own. Ok, I can give him the benefit of the doubt in that he may have been in a rush and forgot to use or misused the quote function. Fair enough as It can happen to the best of us.

However, when someone asks you for your own personal opinion or your own personal experiences on something or somewhere, you surely would not post someone else's and pass it as your own let alone quote someone else's experience as your own, would you?

I've already outlined my reasons for my views on him. The facts are here in front of all to see and make their own minds on the veracity of G either as a fictitious persona or as a real person. I have no problems giving him credit where and when due and say that his tips on fashion are spot on and that I've implemented his tip on pocket squares to good use. Believe me, I do want to be a believer. I really do!

Unfortunately, it's the inconsistencies between what he preaches and what he actually may be that make me an unbeliever.

I do not want to further entertain this conversation. I've made my position clear until undeniable proof of the opposite.

Cheers.

Post: #122

"I know you're another sacred cow that people aren't supposed to question"

^Who said that?

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Post: #124

Thread Interlude :

Chill and listen to this classic piece of French pop...you stroll the streets of Paris, custom suited; a gentle rain falls; you hear these strains of music coming from a club; you duck into the door-way; a fly French model offers you a cigarette...

‘Tant De Nuits’, Alain Bashung


…the rest is up to you.

Post: #125

Following up on what WWT said, it's not about running a background check on the guy.

Did he give advice that was advantageous to a good amount of members? Yes.

Is his alleged lifestyle a possible goal for a good amount of members? Yes.

Did he add value to the forum? Yes.

Based on these three questions, G has made a positive impact on the forum regardless of if he is 100% truthful about his complete lifestyle.

I know I have taken life advice from his posts, and my life is better because of it. Just like Santa Claus, whether he is real or not, he has a positive impact on the lives of others.