Post: #1

Tom Torero from daygame.com made this recently, it's a recording of a first date he had with a French girl he number closed in a cafe all the way from the beginning of the date to the post-sex conversation. There's a lot of gems in there, his date verbal game is really tight. Definitely going to incorporate some of his stuff into my own game. Enjoy.

Post: #2

Entertaining, but it was obvious that the girl was DTF after 10 minutes, there was absolutely no point in Tom prattling on with small-talk for up to another hour.

Also, would have been more impressive if Tom spoke French, it's clear the girls' English wasn't that good and she couldn't express herself properly, which made the convo rather boring.

Post: #3

(04-11-2014 02:07 AM)zarzuelazen Wrote:  Entertaining, but it was obvious that the girl was DTF after 10 minutes, there was absolutely no point in Tom prattling on with small-talk for up to another hour.

Also, would have been more impressive if Tom spoke French, it's clear the girls' English wasn't that good and she couldn't express herself properly, which made the convo rather boring.

I'm sure Tom will be crying himself to sleep over his failure to bang this girl because he didn't speak French.

Oh, hang on a second, here's the video to go with the audio:



Edit: To make my post more constructive, this is a good example of how you don't need sparkling conversation to bang a 'yes' girl.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #4

Plenty of good stuff in here--very helpful for me in terms of shoring up my main weaknesses:

1) Bouncing back to my crib, and

2) LMR

Thanks for sharing, man.

Post: #5

i creeped to the post sex interview....poor beta BF will never know Tom railed the shit outta this girl. Bad boy Alpha always wins and never take a woman at her word !

Post: #6

The conversation may not have sounded that exciting, but I heard some good conversation game going on there:

1. He tried not to ask too many questions, instead making insightful-sounding statements which prompted her to contribute to the conversation on her own.
2. His statements included a mix of teasing, jokes, qualifying, challenging, and deep rapport.
3. Didn't give too much information about himself all at once, but let it dribble out in small amounts.
4. As he escalated the kino he went more into the deep rapport, feelings-type conversation which is like crack for women.
5. He kept his voice (and presumably his demeanor) slightly detached and aloof, so as not to communicate neediness or sycophancy.
6. I understand you're not supposed to discuss the boyfriend/husband, but in this case he used a discussion about it to eliminate LMR.
7. After a minute or so of that conversation about her boyfriend on the balcony, her voice changes and I think she's signaling that she's ready for the kiss. He keeps the conversation going, however. I suspect that he wasn't fully aware of the signal she was sending because he was affected by alcohol. Because of that he uses what sounds like a script to go for the kiss, "Wine makes me kiss people." Hey, it worked.

You can hear her IOI increasing as she laughs more often and longer at what he says in the pub. I think this recording shows that anyone can learn and do game if they deliberately work at it and pay attention to what they're doing.

Post: #7

(04-14-2014 01:13 AM)Carlos100 Wrote:  I think this recording shows that anyone can learn and do game if they deliberately work at it and pay attention to what they're doing.

Definitely. Keep in mind Tom's not the best looking guy you'll meet, and I don't think he's particularly tall or muscular either.



So if he can pick up hot girls off the street, anyone can.

Post: #8

Here is another infield audio - bar to bathroom with a Malaysian girl within an hour. Excellent examples of building rapport, using humor and sexualizing the conversation.

Post: #9

(04-11-2014 03:55 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 02:07 AM)zarzuelazen Wrote:  Entertaining, but it was obvious that the girl was DTF after 10 minutes, there was absolutely no point in Tom prattling on with small-talk for up to another hour.

Also, would have been more impressive if Tom spoke French, it's clear the girls' English wasn't that good and she couldn't express herself properly, which made the convo rather boring.

I'm sure Tom will be crying himself to sleep over his failure to bang this girl because he didn't speak French.

Oh, hang on a second, here's the video to go with the audio:



Edit: To make my post more constructive, this is a good example of how you don't need sparkling conversation to bang a 'yes' girl.

exactly. I dont push too much with a 'yes' girl, because I don't really see the point. If im looking for a quick bang, sure. But if I know a girl is DTF, I like to wait till the second date. I find it keeps them wondering a bit and makes them work harder. It's liking turning the game back on them, I know they are thirsty so I make them earn it.