(02-04-2016 09:07 PM)Onto Wrote:  My take is it's purpose is to expose what assets the foreigner has before he can get married. Knowing what assets he has helps her and her family know how much they can extract.

This is of course bad news for foreigner's who are genuinely interested in marrying a filipina.

Since it's been statistically shown that Pinay's are the worst marriage material (compared to other countries of SA, EE, SEA) it shouldn't be an issue to us. If anything it gives us a reason for telling the Pinay we're with why we can't marry them.

I talked with several ex-pats who have lived decades and married pinay's, and raised families there. They all told me, "Kid, why would you ever want to get married here? Don't do it. There's no reason for it."

I did meet one guy who was still married after decades and several children. They lived in both the States and the Phil. His wife was in her 40's I think and she was still HOT. rcraig33 knows of who I speak. We went ScubaDiving with them.

The stats (the Dutch, or was it Belgian? study) show that pinay/western marriages don't work out much better (5% increase in success rate) than westerner/westerner marriages. But then I think about your typical pairing and it makes me wonder. Most of the guys who marry Filipinas on shows like 90 day fiancee are cringe worthy pushovers.

I can see your average guy going there and immediately getting locked down by the best looking girl he can find, which means he's going to sacrifice social class for looks. He'll forgive the empty conversation since he's awe struck by her femininity and cooking skills. Or if she's early 20s and he's early 50s, because he's cunt struck. Either way, the experience is still warmer and better than what he's used to in the west.

On her side, she needs him for her family to eat. She'll forgive his seeming tactlessness and crassness because she needs to. She'll stew quietly for years since she doesn't want to bring shame on herself through confrontation. Once she's stable, she can safely end it. If he's taking her back to his home, she loses all social pressure to remain submissive and nurturing.

I don't think the problem can be completely eliminated by going higher class. You still have to contend with the cluster b types who are perfect on paper but show red flags as time goes on. You'll be dating a highly educated, solid 9 model from a good family, and only later do you realize what you've gotten into. Think, a minefield that only activates as you try to exit. If it's too good to be true, often it is. They seem to aim exclusively for westerners since they've been discarded by the men there. I'm sure a lot of these types help negatively skew the statistic.

But if you were to force me to marry someone, I would find a girl from the lower middle class and above whose family was mostly self sufficient. I would look for submissiveness, the happy gene, and decent enough communication skills. I would look for someone who has options, but chooses to live responsibly.

I know a virgin 6 whose college educated, has a stable nursing job, and has an ate whose a doctor. She's easy enough to talk with, and she's always in a good mood. She'll go through some really difficult situations and never complain. She dated a local celebrity but (apparently) wouldn't open her legs before marriage. Could be BS, but the transparency shown and living with parents makes me more willing to believe it. She's comfortable enough that money isn't as big a deal as honesty. If I could handle the celibacy, I would have hitched her off by now.

I think you can find some quality online. Usually they hear from a friend or relative that they met someone serious online, so they try it out. Probably have to find them when they just join, before they get jaded with the whole experience.

With the right screening, I wonder how successfully marriage to a Pinay could pan out.

Thought I'd have the whole month of Feb off but ended up with still had things to finish so now I'm left with only 2 weeks. I'd like to spend half in Manila and the rest in a nearby beach to relax and unwind. Any good beach nearby MNL you guys can recommend? By nearby I mean that can be reached by car from Manila.

Also, would like your thoughts on Taguig as an area to be based out of.
How accessible is it to other parts of town? How easy is it for girls to get there? How easy is it for me to get to Makati/the Fort and other areas of interest?

Thanks guys!

(02-05-2016 09:49 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 09:07 PM)Onto Wrote:  My take is it's purpose is to expose what assets the foreigner has before he can get married. Knowing what assets he has helps her and her family know how much they can extract.

This is of course bad news for foreigner's who are genuinely interested in marrying a filipina.

Since it's been statistically shown that Pinay's are the worst marriage material (compared to other countries of SA, EE, SEA) it shouldn't be an issue to us. If anything it gives us a reason for telling the Pinay we're with why we can't marry them.

I talked with several ex-pats who have lived decades and married pinay's, and raised families there. They all told me, "Kid, why would you ever want to get married here? Don't do it. There's no reason for it."

I did meet one guy who was still married after decades and several children. They lived in both the States and the Phil. His wife was in her 40's I think and she was still HOT. rcraig33 knows of who I speak. We went ScubaDiving with them.

The stats (the Dutch, or was it Belgian? study) show that pinay/western marriages don't work out much better (5% increase in success rate) than westerner/westerner marriages. But then I think about your typical pairing and it makes me wonder. Most of the guys who marry Filipinas on shows like 90 day fiancee are cringe worthy pushovers.

I can see your average guy going there and immediately getting locked down by the best looking girl he can find, which means he's going to sacrifice social class for looks. He'll forgive the empty conversation since he's awe struck by her femininity and cooking skills. Or if she's early 20s and he's early 50s, because he's cunt struck. Either way, the experience is still warmer and better than what he's used to in the west.

On her side, she needs him for her family to eat. She'll forgive his seeming tactlessness and crassness because she needs to. She'll stew quietly for years since she doesn't want to bring shame on herself through confrontation. Once she's stable, she can safely end it. If he's taking her back to his home, she loses all social pressure to remain submissive and nurturing.

I don't think the problem can be completely eliminated by going higher class. You still have to contend with the cluster b types who are perfect on paper but show red flags as time goes on. You'll be dating a highly educated, solid 9 model from a good family, and only later do you realize what you've gotten into. Think, a minefield that only activates as you try to exit. If it's too good to be true, often it is. They seem to aim exclusively for westerners since they've been discarded by the men there. I'm sure a lot of these types help negatively skew the statistic.

But if you were to force me to marry someone, I would find a girl from the lower middle class and above whose family was mostly self sufficient. I would look for submissiveness, the happy gene, and decent enough communication skills. I would look for someone who has options, but chooses to live responsibly.

I know a virgin 6 whose college educated, has a stable nursing job, and has an ate whose a doctor. She's easy enough to talk with, and she's always in a good mood. She'll go through some really difficult situations and never complain. She dated a local celebrity but (apparently) wouldn't open her legs before marriage. Could be BS, but the transparency shown and living with parents makes me more willing to believe it. She's comfortable enough that money isn't as big a deal as honesty. If I could handle the celibacy, I would have hitched her off by now.

I think you can find some quality online. Usually they hear from a friend or relative that they met someone serious online, so they try it out. Probably have to find them when they just join, before they get jaded with the whole experience.

With the right screening, I wonder how successfully marriage to a Pinay could pan out.

I recommended Tinder to The Thing, and once he joined I think he pretty much stopped using any of the other sites. And you realize nightlife is a complete waste.

That said these Filipinas love to say "local celebrities", which means appears in any role on TV. Local weatherman = "local celebrity". All the real 7's i met in Manila all claim to have met some celebrity I've never heard of, it gets comical after a while. Like I would know some random TV personality off their real crappy TV shows.

I think fastest way to reach 7/8 pussy paradise is to somehow get on a TV commercial for a product. Someone in this forum has gotta try this out and report on results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trAYZpPnSOk

This guy seems to have made it sorta. Edit: Take it back, looks more blue pill. Amazing how this good looking guy goes for what looks like a 5 at best.

(02-05-2016 11:07 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  I recommended Tinder to The Thing, and once he joined I think he pretty much stopped using any of the other sites. And you realize nightlife is a complete waste.

That said these Filipinas love to say "local celebrities", which means appears in any role on TV. Local weatherman = "local celebrity". All the real 7's i met in Manila all claim to have met some celebrity I've never heard of, it gets comical after a while. Like I would know some random TV personality off their real crappy TV shows.

I think fastest way to reach 7/8 pussy paradise is to somehow get on a TV commercial for a product. Someone in this forum has gotta try this out and report on results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trAYZpPnSOk

This guy seems to have made it sorta. Edit: Take it back, looks more blue pill. Amazing how this good looking guy goes for what looks like a 5 at best.

Correct, I straight up dumped DIA completely and put FC on the side, because quality on Tinder is so much better that other websites were a total waste of my time in comparison.

In terms of median poon quality I'd order the dating apps as Tinder > FC > DIA and as you go deeper the quality decreases but so does the pull difficulty.

However I should also mention that the hottest piece I've laid, which was a solid 8 and some of you might even call her a 9, was off FC.

For fucking around try and see what suits you best but I wouldn't bother chasing LTR material on anything else than Tinder.

Also not only does everyone know a local celebrity, everyone who briefly appeared on any TV channel calls themselves a celebrity as well. I met a bunch of "local TV personalities" that nobody knew about. They didn't even know about each other. I asked one of them about his career high and it turned out to be a fucking diaper commercial 4 years ago.

However if you meet one of these types try to seem like you take him seriously because they usually have tables with drinks at clubs and hot girls around them.

Looking at my Facebook feed, I could say one of these celebrities is living the dream in HK surrounded with a platoon of tight sexy 9/10s right now, if I didn't know the guy was gay. Yeah most of these guys are gay as well so if you have spent some moderate amount of time in the Lifestyle section and come off as masculine you should have no problem befriending these dudes.

Holy shit looking at what I wrote here, I wish someone told me these things before my trip. First time travelers, this thread is gold guys, download it and read it all on the flight.

Edit: Nightlife is not a complete waste. I mean if you're there to run the thing Western style, high fives all around chasing quality tail, 9 times out of 10 you're gonna go home with your cock in your hand and if you're wondering why, that horse is already beaten to fucking extinction on this thread, just read the last 10-15 pages and you're gonna have a clear mental image. However there's always the drunk and horny 6/10 looking to end her night with some white cock if you got your appearance and inner game shit locked down tight.

(02-05-2016 11:36 AM)the Thing Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 11:07 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  I recommended Tinder to The Thing, and once he joined I think he pretty much stopped using any of the other sites. And you realize nightlife is a complete waste.

That said these Filipinas love to say "local celebrities", which means appears in any role on TV. Local weatherman = "local celebrity". All the real 7's i met in Manila all claim to have met some celebrity I've never heard of, it gets comical after a while. Like I would know some random TV personality off their real crappy TV shows.

I think fastest way to reach 7/8 pussy paradise is to somehow get on a TV commercial for a product. Someone in this forum has gotta try this out and report on results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trAYZpPnSOk

This guy seems to have made it sorta. Edit: Take it back, looks more blue pill. Amazing how this good looking guy goes for what looks like a 5 at best.

Correct, I straight up dumped DIA completely and put FC on the side, because quality on Tinder is so much better that other websites were a total waste of my time in comparison.

In terms of median poon quality I'd order the dating apps as Tinder > FC > DIA and as you go deeper the quality decreases but so does the pull difficulty.

However I should also mention that the hottest piece I've laid, which was a solid 8 and some of you might even call her a 9, was off FC.

For fucking around try and see what suits you best but I wouldn't bother chasing LTR material on anything else than Tinder.

Also not only does everyone know a local celebrity, everyone who briefly appeared on any TV channel calls themselves a celebrity as well. I met a bunch of "local TV personalities" that nobody knew about. They didn't even know about each other. I asked one of them about his career high and it turned out to be a fucking diaper commercial 4 years ago.

However if you meet one of these types try to seem like you take him seriously because they usually have tables with drinks at clubs and hot girls around them.

Looking at my Facebook feed, I could say one of these celebrities is living the dream in HK surrounded with a platoon of tight sexy 9/10s right now, if I didn't know the guy was gay. Yeah most of these guys are gay as well so if you have spent some moderate amount of time in the Lifestyle section and come off as masculine you should have no problem befriending these dudes.

Holy shit looking at what I wrote here, I wish someone told me these things before my trip. First time travelers, this thread is gold guys, download it and read it all on the flight.

Edit: Nightlife is not a complete waste. I mean if you're there to run the thing Western style, high fives all around chasing quality tail, 9 times out of 10 you're gonna go home with your cock in your hand and if you're wondering why, that horse is already beaten to fucking extinction on this thread, just read the last 10-15 pages and you're gonna have a clear mental image. However there's always the drunk and horny 6/10 looking to end her night with some white cock if you got your appearance and inner game shit locked down tight.

I'm going to have to disagree with The Thing here. Spending money on drinks and cover for low quality poon is a waste of both money and time.

Also among the very few real celebrities I know, they always keep everything discreet, no photos of him surrounded by 8/9. Discreetly dating stunning girls on the side. Any blowhard trying to hype himself up, ask for his name and google him. Chances are he won't appear anywhere.

Pull difficulty for a 7 is quite similar to the US. You have to run the same type of game. 6's or lower you can run nice guy game and get away with it, but 7's are quite entitled from all the messages they get. 8's are a whole new ballgame, I've yet to lay one from tinder. Keep in mind again this is PH standards, for US standards subtract one and you'll see why its a possy paradise for those fresh off the plane.

There aren't a lot of 7's to begin with, as the amount of mixed blood percentage wise is quite low, especially if you don't use Tinder.

(02-05-2016 12:35 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  I'm going to have to disagree with The Thing here. Spending money on drinks and cover for low quality poon is a waste of both money and time.

That holds for high end nightlife. Towards the end I focused my nightlife only at college dive bars. Z Hostel, 2 pulls. Makati cable car, 1 pull. Bleep malate one pull. They weren't top tier alright but they weren't busted either, I felt no embarrassment showing pictures to friends and they also agreed they weren't too shabby at all.

As to the blowhard thing. I should have mentioned the guy in HK is a "celebrity" in quotation marks, but I don't give a shit at all about how famous these guys really are as long as I drink for free at their tables and fuck their girls. Neither should other travelers. So I stand behind my advice.

(02-05-2016 09:49 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  With the right screening, I wonder how successfully marriage to a Pinay could pan out.

A friend of mine has a friend who married a Pinay (she's a lawyer) and they have had a long marriage. I think they live in North America somewhere.

So...there's one.

(02-05-2016 05:31 PM)Onto Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 09:49 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  With the right screening, I wonder how successfully marriage to a Pinay could pan out.

A friend of mine has a friend who married a Pinay (she's a lawyer) and they have had a long marriage. I think they live in North America somewhere.

So...there's one.

I think people are too negative about marriage on here overall. AWALT but it really comes down to a man's own ability to sift through the rubbish to find someone decent. A lot of guys are too quick to slap a ring on some sexy random slut they met and think things will just fall into place. I don't think pinays are the problem. I actually think a few other asian ethnicities are way worse. I'd rank Thais and asia's biggest carousel riders-->Indonesian girls significantly worse overall for LTR because of cultural and materialistic reasons.

The family thing is not just a filipino thing it's asia wide. People who don't want to have any connection with family will either need to hook up with an orphan or find a girl who loathes her family so much she's willing to just distance herself. On the other hand if you do find a girl willing to alienate herself from all relatives chances are she's a piece of shit too.

edit: Take what self proclaimed "old asia hands" say with a grain of salt too. A lot of them are reformed beta men who got fucked over hard in their younger years doing dopey shit in asia and were dragged kicking and screaming into the red pill by reality. They have way more in common with MGTOWs and MRAs than neomasculinity.

(02-05-2016 08:53 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Take what self proclaimed "old asia hands" say with a grain of salt too. A lot of them are reformed beta men who got fucked over hard in their younger years doing dopey shit in asia and were dragged kicking and screaming into the red pill by reality. They have way more in common with MGTOWs and MRAs than neomasculinity.

A lot of truth to this.

In Asia family marriage = business.

That's explains a lot of why things are the way they are.

Mistresses are tolerated because often marriage at the high end is a strategic alliance between families

(01-23-2016 02:30 AM)DVY Wrote:  I was sitting at this table w/moneyed Phils and just talking w/the guys when right next to me is a drop dead gorgeous girl (seriously 10). Thats is what I mean by I understand the subtleties here of Asia. I ask the table if they want xxxx...because they were drinking whiskey (fkn hate whiskey) and ordered two shots of the most expensive ones because the girl said sure Ill do one w/you. We cheers the shots and i go back to to talking to the guys. Thats how you need to act.

This is how you need to act? Did acting like this get you laid? Do you have any money to show for it?

If not, why is this how you need to act?



Is this evidence of you doing anything other than conforming to social pressure?

(01-23-2016 02:30 AM)DVY Wrote:  Turns out this girl was one of the guys cousins and there is basically zero chance of ONS here anyways and I might end up in a ditch somehwere if I made an awkward pass. She was hitting on me non-stop (in the Asian way) , but I just ignored her. This is the type of high-wire I know is 3rd world Asia. Any other westerner would just ignore the guys and try to talk to the girls.

(01-23-2016 02:30 AM)DVY Wrote:  Thats what I mean by you have to know Asian culture to know that the way to girls is always through the guys. Girls are essentially cattle here to be traded, bought and sold. Terrible but true. They can have their own dreams and goals but it is a patriarchial society.

Quote:I had some sloppy drunk girl basically attack me and try to kiss me last night. I took her to the bar and got her a water instead and took a shot w/her guy friend. That is the way you need to act.

Yes. This is the way you need to act.

(01-23-2016 02:30 AM)DVY Wrote:  I am a different person than the typical backpacker- multi-lingual, well dressed, young, family in Asia, potentially big business from my family so there is a different perception and in Asia perception is everything.

No, it's not.

Quote:The way to do business here in Asia is to drink heavily.

No, it's not. The heavy drinking is not required in Asia and has little to do with real business.

The heavy drinking is a game that fat cats in Asia play with people why have nothing to offer who attempt to mooch off of their connections.

If you are doing real business, there might be some casual drinking involved just like with anything, but it isn't going to be the secret ingredient that gets the deal done.

If you have something of actual value to offer that is going to make other people money, they are not going give a damn about whether you drink together heavily.

Quote:Its cash over ass here. But ill take the ass if I like it and I don't have the chance to offend anybody.

How much ass have you gotten? Because there was a deaf guy who went to the Philippines recently and got a ton of ass.

I was at the designated meeting spot, and it's swarming with guards (someone in the ROK cancellation thread said guards would be posted and on the lookout). Don't know how many of them would be there usually, traffic is quite heavy now, but I didn't see any last time I was there. So going there and waiting would be a dumb idea.

Anyone still up for a meeting at 8 PM tonight? The meeting place will be near Greenbelt. Msg me for details.

Got the quick idea of using facebook as a dating site, when lots of friends of girls i met sent me friend request. So i could just go from friends to friends of friends to friends of friends of friends. Just block the own wall from posting and hide your friends list? And don't post stuff (else others see likes and comments, i guess they will see it on the profile picture but well)

Suits that's a little heavy on the gif snark man...

I just like that he's posting his stories. I like stories. Speaking of which, I think we'll be due some stories soon from LINUX and his asia rampage. Popcorn at the ready...

(02-05-2016 10:38 PM)Suits Wrote:  How much ass have you gotten? Because there was a deaf guy who went to the Philippines recently and got a ton of ass.

Does anywhere in Manila have decent Internet speeds? I'd love to go for a few months but I need high speed internet to work.

I know there are some coworking spaces there that say they have high-speed internet.

Anyone know?

(02-06-2016 06:02 PM)cmoneyt8ker Wrote:  Does anywhere in Manila have decent Internet speeds? I'd love to go for a few months but I need high speed internet to work.

I know there are some coworking spaces there that say they have high-speed internet.

Anyone know?

Get an apartment/condo with a fibre connection. Usually a 12 month minimum contract, so I guess you will need to find one with it already set up if you don't stay the 12 months, or just pay for the 12 months and walk away when you are finished.

Look on PLDT web site.

(02-06-2016 07:15 AM)Roccker Wrote:  Got the quick idea of using facebook as a dating site, when lots of friends of girls i met sent me friend request. So i could just go from friends to friends of friends to friends of friends of friends. Just block the own wall from posting and hide your friends list? And don't post stuff (else others see likes and comments, i guess they will see it on the profile picture but well)

I wouldn't bother with random adds, generally they are just scammers / fake profiles / time wasters, a lot of young girls there will pretty much add anyone as a "friend" so don't even be sure they know each other.

I went to Cebu City and arrived on wednesday. I've been enjoying this city greatly. The nightgame is retiredly easy, but the girls are semi-prostitutes. On Tinder, the girls are very willing. Just send a few messages and they come over. During the day you find nice girls who are way friendlier then in Manila.

And to refer to one of my previous topic: yesterday I mated with a mixed girl :-) So those are here, which is nice.

For anyone coming here: don't book an hotel beforehand. Prices online are way higher then if you just walk in. Rooms near Mango are 1500 php a night if you are alone. This equals to around 31 dollars.

What do you guys use for movies after inviting a girl back to your place? I don't use torrents or pirated movies, so I'm confined to youtube for now unless I missed something. Are there particular movies that you search for? Or vblog reality shows? Random cute videos or other genres?

I heard Netflix just started operating there, so I'm considering getting that. My condo has a good connection for Filipino standards. Think it's worth it?

^ Just pick up some DVDs.

Does anyone know if IT Park is a good area to stay in Cebu in terms of logistics?

^^ yeah it is a great place to stay. I was there in November for three weeks. Stayed in one of the towers next to McDonalds. Ayala mall is only a 5 min. Taxi ride. All the girls you will meet work in call centers in I.T park. I did street game and had alot of success with getting numbers. If you want to know anything just pm me.

(02-07-2016 09:27 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  Does anyone know if IT Park is a good area to stay in Cebu in terms of logistics?

(02-07-2016 11:22 PM)Schlep Wrote:  ^^ yeah it is a great place to stay. I was there in November for three weeks. Stayed in one of the towers next to McDonalds. Ayala mall is only a 5 min. Taxi ride. All the girls you will meet work in call centers in I.T park. I did street game and had alot of success with getting numbers. If you want to know anything just pm me.

Agreed. Decent nearby food options, nearby gym, nearby casino, short taxi to Ayala and SM, and there's people out and about 24/7. Call center workers are generally 4s - 6s but you can find better looking girls that don't actually work within IT Park later at night.

If anyone's in Cebu, hit me up.

I'll be in Manila Tuesday through to Friday if anyone wants to grab a beer.