Post: #26

Mental- I'm not sure what you are talking about.

What do you mean by "you've already used anger once"? I didn't do anything angry.

Post: #27

(03-29-2014 10:50 PM)soup Wrote:  How are you going to let a guy stick his finger in your pussy if you have herpes!?!

Every guy should be aware that girls with STIs will also let you bang them, too. Maybe they will suggest a condom, but as many here can attest to, they will still go without if they really want the D. It sounds like this girl was more honest than some.

A quick google search turned up this article. It is mainly talking about older women but it's relevant. Medically its not considered a big deal because it is so prevalent:

Why You Should Assume Everyone Has Herpes
http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2011/04/lat...tal-herpes

Quote:DR. LEONE: So if you look at some population-based data in the United States and look at unmarried adults, meaning folks between the ages of 45 and 50, for women, we know the prevalence rate for genital herpes due to HSV-2 is between 50 and 70 percent. So we’re looking at close to the majority or the majority of folks in that age group who are single having genital herpes. So…

FLATOW: Let me go over that number again because you’re saying that – it’s hard to believe – you’re saying that for women between the age of 40 and 50…

Dr. LEONE: Right.

FLATOW: … unmarried women?

Dr. LEONE: Yes, unmarried women.

FLATOW: You’re saying that between 50 and 75 percent of them have herpes type 2?

Dr. LEONE: That’s exactly right. Yeah.

The latest CDC figures on genital herpes prevalence, as measured by blood tests for antibodies, are here. Highlights:
-More than 80% of people with herpes are undiagnosed.
-Overall prevalence by the time people reach their forties is 26%.
-In the general population, one-fifth of women and 11.5% of men are infected.

And that doesn’t even tell the whole story. Dr. Shrier of Children’s pointed out that “herpes is tricky:” genital herpes infections can also involve HSV-1, the virus known best as “cold sores” around the mouth. If someone with HSV-1 performs oral sex, the receiving partner may contract genital herpes, though it is HSV-1 rather than the typical 2. And HSV-1 is so widespread that pretty much everyone gets it by the time they’re elderly, she said.

More reasons that herpes has spread so far and wide: It does not need intercourse to spread; mere skin-to-skin contact is enough.

Also to keep things in perspective, a quote from Roosh in Bang:

Quote:"Wear condoms regularly and consistently, but don’t freak out and question your existence if you contract something. Treat it and then deal with it like a man. If you can’t handle the possibility of getting a minor skin disease, this game is not for you."

Roosh V. Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays Within 60 Days (Kindle Locations 2380-2382)

Post: #28

(03-30-2014 11:28 AM)soup Wrote:  Mental- I'm not sure what you are talking about.

What do you mean by "you've already used anger once"? I didn't do anything angry.

Ah, I must have misread your posts.

I sensed that you are angry, and, assumed you got mad at her there.

What I meant, however, was to never use the same tactic oncemore than once.

Change like the water; if people can not label you, they can not prepare for you, and, consequently, will not know what to do.
Meanwhile, you will be able to play them like a toy.

Or, in easy terms, adapt to the situation.

If you first get very angry, then, 10 minutes later you call her very calm, saying it happened, and you will not judge her, she will freak out.

You do not have to trust me, however; I am telling you what works for me, and I can not guarantee it will work for you.

You can only find it out if you try it your self; by making mistakes, and learning from them, you grow the fastest.

Post: #29

I wonder if I would've just double-wrapped... just how attractive was this girl?

Ha, just kidding, I've had one of the take a pill and you're good ones, I'm not messing around with herpes. I'd have swaffled her and left immediately.

Post: #30

That sucks man. At least she told you before you got your dick wet. Everything will work out bud.

Post: #31

How the fuck does she think a guy is suppose to react to "I have herpes"? The situation is ridiculous, I haven't met soup but im going to assume he's a decent looking guy with game. So this girl thinks she is going to get a decent looking guy who is socially savy to want to fuck her when she reveals at game time she has herpes? Talk about shooting way above her league. Maybe some fat social recluse will agree to herpes but she's asking a higher end guy?

She has big balls or is just socially retarded.

Post: #32

I think she's a little crazy or fried from getting it maybe. I notice this kind of thing with some older women or chicks with stds. Whereas normal girls out up huge birch shields, these females are starved for affection.

They are so thankful to have a guy touching them. The fact that she didn't mention it to me before I put my hand in her pussy shows how narcissistic and selfish she is. It's as if I'm not a real person.

If you know you have a disease and let some guy do that, then you are borderline evil in my opinion. You don't care about anyone else but yourself, for whatever reason.

Now I'm slightly paranoid that I may have got something it's going to linger like that over the next week or so because that's how long it would take for the shit to show up in test results.

Post: #33

(03-30-2014 01:21 PM)soup Wrote:  I think she's a little crazy or fried from getting it maybe. I notice this kind of thing with some older women or chicks with stds. Whereas normal girls out up huge birch shields, these females are starved for affection.

They are so thankful to have a guy touching them. The fact that she didn't mention it to me before I put my hand in her pussy shows how narcissistic and selfish she is. It's as if I'm not a real person.

If you know you have a disease and let some guy do that, then you are borderline evil in my opinion. You don't care about anyone else but yourself, for whatever reason.

Now I'm slightly paranoid that I may have got something it's going to linger like that over the next week or so because that's how long it would take for the shit to show up in test results.

Do not fret about it too much - it is a waste of time and energy.
Enjoy yourself, and wait for the results from a doctor - then you will know what to do next.

Post: #34

PM'd

Post: #35

are you kidding me?
You can't get "back herpes," it's not a thing.
80% of the population already has oral herpes
She could have not told you, be thankful she did before anything really happened
Herpes lives outside its environment for only a few seconds, so it can't be spread by anything buy direct genital/mouth contact. Otherwise, everyone who shared a toilet would have herpes.
if someone has genital herpes, uses a condom, avoids sex during outbreaks, and takes daily antivirals, the risk of transmission is less than 1% annually.
if you're this paranoid, don't come to a forum, spend 5 minutes on google.

Post: #36

I have good news and bad news for you soup.

You have already banged several girls with herpes. You've fingered them, went down on them, and went raw with them.

They just never told you they had herpes (and often people don't even know when they are infected).

Herpes is common and you might be infected already. Infected people often never have an outbreak.

You're still alive. You'll be fine.
And if you've ever been with a black girl, there's a 50-50 chance she has herpes:

http://dangerandplay.com/2012/04/25/how-...vent-stds/

This stuff is common, especially in NYC. It's not worth losing any sleep over.

Post: #37

(03-30-2014 03:13 PM)clever alias Wrote:  if someone has genital herpes, uses a condom, avoids sex during outbreaks, and takes daily antivirals, the risk of transmission is less than 1% annually.

This.

I used to be one of those guys super paranoid about STDs as I had never even had a cold sore. Then I did the research and looked at the risks.

The risk are low and really aren't.

It's just a hazard of the game. Mitigate the risks and move on.

I am believer in using coconut oil and defense soap, though. Keep some wipes in the car to clean up afterwards.

http://dangerandplay.com/2012/04/27/how-...ds-part-2/

Post: #38

(03-30-2014 03:13 PM)clever alias Wrote:  are you kidding me?
You can't get "back herpes," it's not a thing.
80% of the population already has oral herpes
She could have not told you, be thankful she did before anything really happened
Herpes lives outside its environment for only a few seconds, so it can't be spread by anything buy direct genital/mouth contact. Otherwise, everyone who shared a toilet would have herpes.
if someone has genital herpes, uses a condom, avoids sex during outbreaks, and takes daily antivirals, the risk of transmission is less than 1% annually.
if you're this paranoid, don't come to a forum, spend 5 minutes on google.

You sound like you trust everything you hear; I have a pretty good guess, You do not ever check any info.

Inform Yourself, do not disinform.
You have Wikipedia, and other sites, if you are capable of using them.

Even though, you may be right, you still come off as unoriginal and rigid.

Try not to be a smart ass.
That does not work with people, who can see right through bullshiters.

Do not judge those who
Did not know something today
'Cause tommorow they will learn.

Post: #39

Gotta agree with MikeCF.

I was actually pretty thrown off by the emotional response you had to this, Soup - given that you've banged more women that most of us on here, from what I've gathered. You must have accepted by now that you've plowed through dozens of women with herpes. And that you very likely have one STD or another yourself.

If not, I'm afraid you're fooling yourself, my bro.

Honestly, I'd have probably tossed on condumn and run through that Bitch at this stage of my life, assuming she wasn't in the middle of an outbreak.

It's not like you're hard up for tail, so I can understand you turning it away too. But getting worked up about it surprises me.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #40

um, self preservation is key regardless of statistics

Post: #41

delete

Post: #42

(03-30-2014 03:45 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  um, self preservation is key regardless of statistics

Like I said, I can understand passing it up, even if it was unnecessary.

But being surprised or freaked about it, given Soup's chosen lifestyle. It just seems silly.

And worrying about finger herpes and back herpes? haha Come on...

We choose our lifestyle, and yeah, we try to avoid infected women if we can. But let's not be naive.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #43

What you say is sound advice, but it's better to encourage preservation among the populous.

His response is understandable. usual "I didn't expect it to happen to me". we all do that.

I'm o.c.d. so I still freak out even when I know better, then the other half of me is resigned over it from what I know from studying in the health field.

Post: #44

I don't know , guys..

I've been tested regularly for all stds and have come up clean over and over again after several years of fucking (and raw dogging) perhaps some of NYCs biggest sluts. Got tested in feb and it was all clear.

I got a little mad because this girl waited until after I had already fingered her to tell me. There's a possibility that she may have been lying.

She could have just not let me do it. She could have even made up some other story like her being on her period.

I agree that there is some great risk I've taking these years, but i think she was trying to hand off her trauma to me. She wanted to see my reaction maybe.

I take full responsibility for my actions here. But that doesn't mean that she isn't a bad person for pulling something like this on someone.

Mike- you are right, though. I think I might be e living in a fantasy world with regards to all the stats on this.

The other girl I fucked who had herpes told me beforehand (no pun intended).

After all this, one conclusion that I've been coming to is to avoid making first dates on th weekend. It seems to be like the rule in gremlins about not feeding them after midnight.

Post: #45

yea as long as my blood work keeps coming back clean, I reserve the right to ghost a chick when she does sketchy shit

Post: #46

I may be wrong, but was under the impression herpes testing is not standard in std testing

Post: #47

(03-30-2014 04:15 PM)soup Wrote:  I don't know , guys..

I've been tested regularly for all stds and have come up clean over and over again after several years of fucking (and raw dogging) perhaps some of NYCs biggest sluts. Got tested in feb and it was all clear.

I got a little mad because this girl waited until after I had already fingered her to tell me. There's a possibility that she may have been lying.

She could have just not let me do it. She could have even made up some other story like her being on her period.

I agree that there is some great risk I've taking these years, but i think she was trying to hand off her trauma to me. She wanted to see my reaction maybe.

I take full responsibility for my actions here. But that doesn't mean that she isn't a bad person for pulling something like this on someone.

The other girl I fucked who had herpes told me beforehand (no pun intended).

to smash or not is up to you, the point I was trying to make was that what happened is about as close to zero risk as you can get, and she told you before anything serious actually did happen. I don't think the girl did anything wrong, disrespectful, or dangerous. the final call is up to you, but I think this could have been handled better

Post: #48

Agreed.

Post: #49

(03-30-2014 04:20 PM)clever alias Wrote:  I may be wrong, but was under the impression herpes testing is not standard in std testing

yea, but you can ask for nonstandard testing, and possibly pay an extra fee for it. you can also go to a blood bank which tests for everything communicable and ask about your results.

planned parenthood offers the cheapest rate in my area. any active guy can afford a comprehensive test anytime they encounter a sketchy situation.

Post: #50

I once banged a girl named Sabrina at an old baseball college house.

Had her bent over in the room hitting it from the back. My boy walks in with her friend. Her friend was busted.

My boys is like let's switch. I'm like hell no get away from me. We were drunk and we laughed. Combined my drunkness with two new people in the room and I had the recipe for not being able to cum. I was plowing her like a jack hammer and nothing. Next thing I know it starts to feel really good. Extra good. Too good.

I pull out for a second and see that the condom is half way on my dick. It broke. Fuck. I'm like screw it and put it back in. My thought process was if she had anything I already was exposed so might as well keep plowing.

Fast forward to the next day. I'm at my boys smoking a blunt. This girl Angie that my boy was fucking calls his cell phone.

He hands me the phone, gives me a weird face and tells me she wants to talk to me.

I put the phone to my ear and she is like so I heard you fucked Sabrina last night. Just want you to know she has herpes so you should go get checked. Then she hangs up on me.

What!?

I was young in the game and thought it was the end of the world. I went on a bender of drinking, smoking and robbing drug dealers. I even punched my windshield and shattered it as I was driving.

I called Sabrina and freaked out on her telling her I was going to have a girl beat her up.

Well guess what, I never got herpes. Turns out the bitch Angie was just jealous of Sabrina and wanted my cock all along. So she made the whole thing up. I went through all that stress and bullshit for no reason.

Moral of the story is. Keep your immune system strong and your stress levels low. And most importantly never trust a hoe.