Post: #1

....she'll jack you off and let you bust on her chest. She may even give you some head while fingering her....but no penetration.

Why is this?

The general reasons that Ive usually been given is because your not in a relationship with them or they just met you or this is their first time to your house etc.

I realize that some girls are just lying and may have a boyfriend or a significant other that they dont want to cheat on or whatever. But what is the point of going that far, because their basicly cheating anyway when they do everything short of letting you penetrate.

Has anyone had any significant revelation on why girls will go all the way to 90, only to stop short of 100?

Is there some other in depth, intellectual reason on why they do this?

Post: #2

(01-12-2011 10:19 AM)theIVth Wrote:  ....she'll jack you off and let you bust on her chest. She may even give you some head while fingering her....but no penetration.

Why is this?

The general reasons that Ive usually been given is because your not in a relationship with them or they just met you or this is their first time to your house etc.

I realize that some girls are just lying and may have a boyfriend or a significant other that they dont want to cheat on or whatever. But what is the point of going that far, because their basicly cheating anyway when they do everything short of letting you penetrate.

Has anyone had any significant revelation on why girls will go all the way to 90, only to stop short of 100?

Is there some other in depth, intellectual reason on why they do this?

Here's a good trick that I use.

Tell her you just want to put the head in. I've used that a lot. Once the head is in, most women won't just want the head to stay there. They will want more of it to move around inside them.

Insist you just want the head to be in there, to cool your glans down. Focus on the head.

Please report back with findings.

Post: #3

Yeah, that game that Moma described is better known as playing "just the tip"

Mixx

Post: #4

When a girl refuses penetration I just go down on her. I eat pussy better than a lesbian. Never let her have an orgasm though, but keep bringing her to that point. After a while she'll be begging for a fuck.

Post: #5

(01-12-2011 10:19 AM)theIVth Wrote:  ....she'll jack you off and let you bust on her chest. She may even give you some head while fingering her....but no penetration.

Why is this?

The general reasons that Ive usually been given is because your not in a relationship with them or they just met you or this is their first time to your house etc.

I realize that some girls are just lying and may have a boyfriend or a significant other that they dont want to cheat on or whatever. But what is the point of going that far, because their basicly cheating anyway when they do everything short of letting you penetrate.

Has anyone had any significant revelation on why girls will go all the way to 90, only to stop short of 100?

Is there some other in depth, intellectual reason on why they do this?

I read a study that indicated that the majority of girls under 24 consider giving head a part of making out (my favorite thing about this generation....I wish I was born generation earlier). Essentially, they don't consider it 90 percent. More like 50 percent. Which is actually a great thing.

It's so easy to get blown now. Never been easier to bust a nut. It's just a part of making out. They get sluttier with every generation.

Post: #6

It's difficult for me to buss a nut over head. Maybe the women I meet just suck at fellatio *pun excluded *.

I need to actually be pumping her before I can arrive at my intended destination.

Post: #7

Ive tried the "let me just put the tip in" method for years and it works sometimes.

Its just always puzzled me how some girls will do everything under the sun except for let you slide it in.

I guess they feel like they can still get off and keep you interested by somewhat getting you off without having to pyschology admit to adding a new sexual partner to their list. Thats the only rationale that I can really assume they are using.

Post: #8

The old "just-the-tip" trick is surprisingly effective, although I didn't use that overused phrase to suggest it. I used the method on a MILF that was cheating on her husband with me and was having some eleventh-hour guilt. I paused for a second at the gateway and she pulled me in the rest of the way. I then proceeded to pound it out every which way.

All of this happened in the front seat of my car in the far section of an Arby's parking lot. But, for the record: I didn't actually eat there.

Post: #9

i love their roast beef sammiches^

i have not run into this problem yet. how many times has this happened to you?

Post: #10

(01-12-2011 02:04 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  i have not run into this problem yet. how many times has this happened to you?

I went through a phase where I was running into a lot of old virgins (in their early 20s) and late-bloomers. If you think girl-logic is hilariously ridiculous, virgin logic is even worse. You end up saying and doing things you didn't think you were capable.

Post: #11

(01-12-2011 02:30 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I went through a phase where I was running into a lot of old virgins (in their early 20s) and late-bloomers. If you think girl-logic is hilariously ridiculous, virgin logic is even worse. You end up saying and doing things you didn't think you were capable.

Such as?

Post: #12

(01-12-2011 10:19 AM)theIVth Wrote:  Has anyone had any significant revelation on why girls will go all the way to 90, only to stop short of 100?

If she gives good head, I'd actually prefer those "90%" to 100%. You can fuck pretty much every girl, but very few of them give good head, and even less could do it long enough for you to enjoy.

Post: #13

i took a nap and i guess my subconsouis was intrigued about this topic. I dreamed i was meeting up with a girl from my past. We were doing stuff and she said "Well since you did such and such I guess ill give you half" and she proceeded to give me a blow job. It was interrupted however by the sound of her mom nearby. we ended up scattering and i woke up in a bad mood soon after

Post: #14

This is a funny thread. I had the same problem with a girl in high school. Me and my friend had these 2 girls back at my house and he was fucking his girl on the other side of the room. Mine wouldn't let me put it in after i tried everything. So i suggested to her that it would be funny if i took my pants off but she could keep her underwear on and we told our friends it was time to leave and 'pretended' to fuck. Basically the joke was 'hey im naked and we are fucking haha'. Well needless to say when she felt my cock with only a thin layer of cotton between me and her pussy she let me bring it around the side and hit it.

Post: #15

(01-12-2011 02:49 PM)Moma Wrote:  Such as?

Well, for one, I remember playing college counselor/sex-ed teacher with this 18-year-old Canadian virgin who was visiting my city for the summer. She was horny as hell (as virgins tend to be), but always hesitant when it came to the bang. This chick who, incidentally, resembled Margot Stilley, somehow managed to escape Ontario without a blemish, and it was my job to break that in. But, she was reluctant. I tried all sorts of reprehensible shit I'm embarrassed to admit to a group like this because it goes against all kinds of game principles (even though I knew that at the time and deluded myself that I was playing by my own "virgin" set of rules).

I gave some elaborate story that all "my friends" that had waited to have sex until their 20s regretted later--which was total bullshit, but worked well. I'd leave porn--which I suspected she secretly LOVED--playing on my massive TV in the background when she'd come over, thinking it would get her going. I'd plant seeds about my plans to visit her Ontario in "a few months" (presumably after the bang).

Interestingly, I never did shake her loose that summer. I got closer and closer, but ran out of time. But, when she came back the following year--having banged some Canadian sausage in the meantime--I finally got to hit it. I set it up for another guy, but still got rewarded with the notch for my hard, dirty work. Plus, I have an open invitation whenever I'm in her neck of the woods. Say what you will, but it worked.

Post: #16

(01-12-2011 07:05 PM)truedat Wrote:  So i suggested to her that it would be funny if i took my pants off but she could keep her underwear on and we told our friends it was time to leave and 'pretended' to fuck. Basically the joke was 'hey im naked and we are fucking haha'. Well needless to say when she felt my cock with only a thin layer of cotton between me and her pussy she let me bring it around the side and hit it.

This is an old reliable and one of the more famous "just-the-tip" variations. The great thing is that it never stops working. It turns out it's not JUST for high-schoolers!

Post: #17

^^^ lmao @ that story. U a dog bro! That's a good thing haha I can only strive to be like u

Post: #18

(01-12-2011 01:10 PM)Moma Wrote:  It's difficult for me to buss a nut over head. Maybe the women I meet just suck at fellatio *pun excluded *.

I need to actually be pumping her before I can arrive at my intended destination.

You just have to find girls that are good at it. Sometimes I preffer to get head over bang, like when I'm real drunk.

Post: #19

(01-12-2011 08:09 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(01-12-2011 01:10 PM)Moma Wrote:  It's difficult for me to buss a nut over head. Maybe the women I meet just suck at fellatio *pun excluded *.

I need to actually be pumping her before I can arrive at my intended destination.

You just have to find girls that are good at it. Sometimes I preffer to get head over bang, like when I'm real drunk.

I was good and liquored up once and brought a chick back to the crib. She got in the bed but refused to fuck or blow me. It pissed me off so I pulled out a dirty mag and started beating off right there next to her. She freaked the fuck out and left. I showed her.

Post: #20

(01-12-2011 12:03 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  When a girl refuses penetration I just go down on her. I eat pussy better than a lesbian. Never let her have an orgasm though, but keep bringing her to that point. After a while she'll be begging for a fuck.

Knowing how to eat pussy like a champ has helped me a lot in recent years. Mostly, it got me a lot of inner-game improving compliments and unsolicited booty calls. Unfortunately, I honed that skill through a series of short-to-long-termers that could ONLY cum that way. There was a lot of 69-ing in my life for a period.

It's great advice to stop JUST short on hold-outs. Strangely, I never thought to try that with the stubborn ones: get them there and then get up.

As much shit as they talk, girls are even weaker at dealing with being blue-balled than we are. We deal with not getting what we want on a more regular basis.

Post: #21

(01-12-2011 08:34 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(01-12-2011 08:09 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(01-12-2011 01:10 PM)Moma Wrote:  It's difficult for me to buss a nut over head. Maybe the women I meet just suck at fellatio *pun excluded *.

I need to actually be pumping her before I can arrive at my intended destination.

You just have to find girls that are good at it. Sometimes I preffer to get head over bang, like when I'm real drunk.

I was good and liquored up once and brought a chick back to the crib. She got in the bed but refused to fuck or blow me. It pissed me off so I pulled out a dirty mag and started beating off right there next to her. She freaked the fuck out and left. I showed her.

LMFAO!! hilarious!!!

Post: #22

I was 90% there with a smoking hot cuban girl, B-list actress now. She wouldn't bang because she was on her period, which I told her I didn't give a fuck about, and because she had a boyfriend that she intended to break up with but hadn't yet. Same situation as you, she said I could jerk off onto her tits which I refused, and I later joked, "Now, if you'd said I could cum on your face, I might have considered." Her response: "That would have been hot." WTF? (I never got the bang, incidentally)

Post: #23

(01-12-2011 10:19 AM)theIVth Wrote:  ....she'll jack you off and let you bust on her chest. She may even give you some head while fingering her....but no penetration.

Why is this?

The general reasons that Ive usually been given is because your not in a relationship with them or they just met you or this is their first time to your house etc.

I realize that some girls are just lying and may have a boyfriend or a significant other that they dont want to cheat on or whatever. But what is the point of going that far, because their basicly cheating anyway when they do everything short of letting you penetrate.

Has anyone had any significant revelation on why girls will go all the way to 90, only to stop short of 100?

Is there some other in depth, intellectual reason on why they do this?

From my experience, girls with boyfriends who are locked up or are serving in the military overseas do shit like this. I guess they feel they are holding the dude down by not giving up the pussy. I had this one chick who would let me fucked her in the ass but would not let me nowhere near her pussy. I guess Is one of those things that some women do and leaves you scratching your head.

Post: #24

(01-14-2011 03:07 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  From my experience, girls with boyfriends who are locked up or are serving in the military overseas do shit like this. I guess they feel they are holding the dude down by not giving up the pussy. I had this one chick who would let me fucked her in the ass but would not let me nowhere near her pussy. I guess Is one of those things that some women do and leaves you scratching your head.

Dude, this is a classic case of girl-logic at work. I've heard so many stories like this that I think every committed girl is capable of cheating. I had the aforementioned outwardly nice married woman (a high-school teacher, no less) REFUSE to give me blow job because that was "for her husband," but would titty fuck me (unsolicited) with her D-cups; let me bang her doggystyle and every other style; and scream like banshee when I would suck on her titties; all while her husband was at home waiting for her. That's fucked up shit.

Post: #25

I should start running just the tip game. In the past ive ran into a few girls who fit these descriptions, and would have been nice enough to know about so i could have gotten the lay instead of the bj/hj. Sounds good, and thanks for the info!