Post: #176

"Easiest: north of england scotland by a mile and half. All you need to do is show up and you're going to pulll something (not necessarily high quality)"

That really really surprises me as someone who lives in the UK and has spent a lot of time in the north + Scotland...hmmm

Post: #177

Have you ever been to the Bigg Market in Newcastle upon Tyne on a Friday or Saturday night?

Post: #178

(08-08-2012 04:18 PM)KeTaMiNe Wrote:  Have you ever been to the Bigg Market in Newcastle upon Tyne on a Friday or Saturday night?

aha yes now I understand....wi ay man!

Post: #179

OK, so based my extensive research here's a summary of what's being said about ease of lays in various European places. Since I figure 6's are pullable almost anywhere, I have attached a photo of a couple women I would consider 7's as a baseline for what the average guy seeking lays would hope for. After reading, I'd like to get the forum's two cents on this.

There's a lot of talk about the FSU countries (Ukraine, Belarus and Russia) as the place where you can easily pull a pretty girl. But then again many also preface it with the requirement that you need to spend a lot of money on them. For me, that kind of takes the wind out of the sails cause if you're sinking loads of cash into getting a girl to like you, why even go to these countries? You can find gold-digging women anywhere.

And then guys also say you need to pick up some decent Russian to even get your foot in the door with these women. So I don't know what to believe anymore.

So far this is what I've gathered from my experiences and the insider info from others.

- Poland is becoming less and less a hotspot for foreigners. But still is good, especially in less popular cities where there are hardly any outsiders.

- The Baltics used to be great, but now are officially ruined. RIP

- Southern European countries like Italy, Spain, Portugal Greece are garbage.

- Western Europe, don't bother.

- In Finland and Iceland, girls have sex like drinking coffee in the morning, it's no big deal (really?). I'd love to get more insight on this as its really expensive and I would probably only be able to afford a short jaunt.

- Balkans are not easy as one might think.

- Romania is like Poland (English widely spoken by young women, cheap living, women into foreigners) but maybe better. This Romanian guy I know said there are some places outside of Bucharest not spoiled by horny outsiders and the girls are sexually more adventurous and open than Polish girls.

- Czech republic, used to be good but not anymore. I heard even Brno and Ostrava have a lot of horny foreigners. Maybe the smaller cities have potential since everyone says the czech girls are more sexually liberal and sluttier than Polish.

Based on the intelligence I have gathered, the most hopeful places are:

Minsk, Belarus (much safer than Ukraine and less of the gold digging type. Also less foreigners due to visa requirement)
Reykjavik (random drunk sex is common via Bang Iceland)
Helsinki (based on Roosh's report)
Some Romanian city with few foreigners

**I'm currently living in Poland

Post: #180

World map of easiness of girls by country

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?rep...on_ref_map

Post: #181

worst place globally for me was London, I lived there for a year and a half. Just one almighty cockfest. Then again that was my pre-game days, im sure i would have vastly different results if I tried it again now. One thing for sure is that the chicks once they were interested were well up for a bang (as were usually tourists/there short term - hence no long term friends judging them), just getting a chick of any quality into you with all the male competition distracting them was a right pain in the ass. If you did get a chick up for a bang (be it by dropping your standards or just getting lucky) then logistics usually fucked you anyway.

There's a good reason why most (European) pick up companies formed or center most of their business in London...

Irish

Post: #182

(01-13-2011 05:44 PM)Tg3 Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 05:06 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 04:36 PM)Tg3 Wrote:  

(01-13-2011 11:43 AM)Peoloom Wrote:  

(01-10-2011 11:42 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  Ali, most ppl say Estonia is a pretty good spot. What was your experience there? What was the difficulty IYO?

Anyone who says this is misinformed. I've lived in Estonia for almost 2 years now...this place is crawling with creeps from the UK, Spain, and Italy who come solely to hook up. The locals are inured to it. You will not be able to get a good-looking Estonian girl into bed easily when it's obvious that you're a sex tourist. The mentality that people have seems to be that Estonia = poor Eastern Europe = the locals will jump at the chance to hook up with a fat, middle-aged dude just because he's got a passport from a Western country. This is not the case, and I'd say it's the same for Latvia and Lithuania, too.

You need game to meet women in the Baltics, plain and simple. And God help you if you go to Finland or Sweden with no game. If you're British, game might not even help. The women here have heard every variation of the shitty pick-up lines from The Game. Every weekend I see some moron buying drink after drink for a girl, only to be told "Head Ööd!" (good night) when the lights come up. I've heard similar stories from Helsinki and Stockholm.

Good luck to all of the fat, balding, blue-collar British idiots who think they can come here and score a 10 for a one-night stand because they have 100 pounds to throw around on drinks for a weekend.

From what I've heard, the Greek islands in the summer are the best places to meet women for casual hookups.

well, it is true that there are a bit too much tourists, but seriously it is not that bad, when you compare to riga for example.
Second, why you assume guys here are fat balding guys? what fat balding guys would be doing in a forum to get girls? In my book, A prerequisite to get girls is to be attractive, no matter where you are. people who are not and who want to go to a foreign country hoping it will be easier are just loosers. If you cant get hot girls in your home country, then you wont get hot girls anywhere in the world.
Third, girls have heard lines from the game, haha, maybe i dont know, i ve never used lines in my life, but i quite doubt that many guys use lines, i ve never witnessed guys in real life using lines in estonia lol, but well if you say it, maybe..
Fourth, I dont think it is a nationality issue. Sure brits have bad reputation all over east europe. But well, i know brits who were very dangerous in tallinn. I mean a 28 years old stylish cool good looking british guy (a guy I know was exactly that there) will of course get many hot girls there, they are not going to be "oh you are so fucking hot but you are from england so no i dont want you" . As a general rule, many foreign guys do very well in estonia, and it is not because girls are all wet because they have a different a passport, it is because they look good, and are attractive. (countless of hot tallinn girls told me that they find foreign guys better looking, and more passionate etc..)

But this applies to everywhere, girls will not want you because of your passport but because of you(your looks, your attitude..) In clubs, when i m in foreign countries, i get approached a lot, girls very often dont know I am a foreign, they just know I look good. Sometimes they are even disappointed i m not a local (it actually happens particularly in posh clubs in east europe, where girls there usually prefer to hook up with an attractive local than a foreign, yet if you are a very attractive foreign, it doesnt matter..) .

I dont understand the whole nationality issue in this forum, cause attraction happens all the time before I open my mouth, and so girls are attracted to me before knowing where I am from, I could be from alaska or liechtenstein she doesnt know , yet she is very attracted already..

TG3, I actually know quite a few guys I would characterize as ugly, who score girls all the time. They have terrible physical features.

But their game is on point. They dress well and are very charasmatic. They build attraction from nothing. And these girls become mesmerized by them.

They don t spend much money on girls as well. They realize spending money on them only devalues themselves.

My point is true game is when you can get girls without good looks and money. Trust me, they are assassins.

I also know some guys who are not that good looking and get lot of girls with other talents, and work. I do respect these guys. but my point was to say that nationality doesnt matter mufh. IF one superficial aspect is important IT IS looks, not nationality. that was the point i was trying to make (i think there are too much talk about how naitionality matters here, while i dont think it really matters, people here should stop thinking so much about their nationality seriously..). After, yes, some guys have a lot of talent and manage to get lots of girls without looks, but yes as i say, they dont have looks, but they have talent. I guess I have a bit of natural talent too, but I would be very hypocrite to say that my looks dont do most of the work.

This is completely wrong. Nationality matters at first place! (or second place, after your financial/social level, because girls most of the cases always take into account how could you secure their future financially or politically if you have some political/social power, etc).

I will explain you why nationality and race matters - girls are affected strongly if you are from a very powerful, rich or very famous country. I dare to say that I am attractive physically and girls show this at first instance being interested in me, until the point they get knowing my nationality. I come from a country which is not known and not popular at all and once they hear this they lose interest almost immediately. At the same time I have seen thousands of times how guys without any game or any good look from Italy or France, just for example, get laid with beautiful girls in another country just because they are considered "great lovers and terribly romantic", and similar bulshyt... or guys of dark color get laid with white girls without any effort just becuase those stupid girls think that all dark guys have biggest tool between their legs, which in 90% of the cases is not true at all. In the case of blond and blueeyed foreigners from rich countries, girls from poorer countries consider them as a perfect opportunity to potentially fix their lives by settling down to the rich country through the blond guy. So you see, directly or indirectly the MONEY, FAME, SOCIAL POWER or in other cases the supposition that you have a very big tool affect the girls in most of the cases!

Post: #183

I think we are going to have to have a new poll. This thread is completely inconclusive.

Post: #184

This is not that hard actually.

Catholic countries = HARD

Protestant countries = EASIER


In a nutshell that's mostly what you could say about Europe, as a portuguese native who kills it whenever he's outside, since it's so hard here... Portugal is probably the hardest. And the quality doesn't really compensate the effort!

Post: #185

Slovakia has been easiest for me.

Post: #186

Very easy.

southern european countries are the toughest, northern european countries are the easiest.
east european countries are the easiest if you have money or if you are looking for a relationship, but not easy for ONS especially if you want quality girls.

Post: #187

UK is the easiest for me, I've not visited the Scandis but they sound easy too.

Toughest is wherever I go in Eastern European, all of them places. Its easy 'to pull' for sure but getting the bang takes a bit more work unlike the UK where it's basically bar to bedroom.

Post: #188

Raising from the dead. Almost 2 years later.

Any updates?

dontuan's post a few up tried to tie it together.

Post: #189

I disagree with Dontuan in a few things, here's my 0.02$:

Poland VS. Romania: The general consensus seems to be that Romania is definitely harder, as Romanian girls share some personality traits with Italian and Spanish women. Roosh himself describes in his last book how its hard to pull a girl there if her friends don't aprove of you.

Spain: My home country gets a lot of mixed opinions on this forum. Personally, through extensive travelling, I've come to appreciate a lot of good qualities of meeting girls and the overall lifestyle of Spain. The main problem is that outside of Madrid and Barcelona, university student girls in the 18-23 range are almost inaccesible unless you meet them through social circle. In addition, these girls usually live with their parents and don't sleep around. Your best bet is to try and land a quality girl and keep her around. It's very hard to have a rotation. Luckily, slightly older girls (think 22-27) are a lot more open as they suddenly see themselves having left uni, with smaller social circles and with more freedom, away from their parents. In addition, in just about any Spanish town you can find a plentiful supply of foreign exchange students from all over the world (Poland, Netherlands, USA, UK, Romania, Brazil...etc). These girls are eager to meet new people and are very easy to talk to. There's also a lot of young tourists during the summer months.

Bottom line: forget about approaching Spanish 18-22 y.o student girls, these are only accesible through social circle. Focus on exchange students, foreigners and slightly older Spanish girls. Generally speaking, Spain is still a great place to be.

Belarus (and perhaps Russia & Ukraine): It's mostly a dating culture, ONSs are rare. I think instead of spending money, you mostly need to spend time and get to know the girl before she is ready to have sex with you. I had this exact experience in Minsk and also with Ukrainian girls in Poland.

UK: people here just go out, get smashed and occasionally have a ONSs. I think that however there's a misconception about English girls. They are hands down very sexually liberated, meaning that if a girl likes you, she'll have sex with you within that same night but that doesn't mean they are easy to talk to. In my experience, the easiest girls to approach are hands down, Polish girls. Whereas an English girl won't give you the time of day unless she finds you attractive, Polish girls will talk to you, laugh at your jokes and even grind you on the dance floor no matter what. Similarly, making out in Poland is almost meaningless whereas if you get a make out in the UK, it's highly likely you are going all the way within that same night. This being said, if a UK girl likes you, you literally don't have to do anything other than not fuck up. It's also not that rare for English girls to be very forward and even outright approach a guy at a club. In many student cities the talent is also better than you would expect but you often see a lot of fatties alongside the occasional stunner. Not much in between and they usually wear tons of make up, I also don't like the way they dress. Spanish girls have way better style IMO.

Post: #190

UK by far the easiest, but quality is not the best. In many cases it's like drinking that classic Drano cocktail. Sure it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside.

I don't think Europe in general is a good place to go for ease of bangs. Not even in The Med during the summer months will you find any freebies these days.

Post: #191

(04-07-2016 06:43 AM)Vicious Wrote:  UK by far the easiest, but quality is not the best. In many cases it's like drinking that classic Drano cocktail. Sure it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside.

There's so much discrepancy with people and what they say about the UK.

Some say it's impossible to pull there, some say it's easy.

I tore it up in the UK and found it much easier than here in the states, but that was in Scotland during the summer. Is there really that much variety in terms of difficulty in the UK?

Post: #192

"Impossible to pull" = Average or below average looking and/or older men.

"Easy to pull" = Above average or good looking, most likely younger men.

I think explaining the discrepancy is that simple in the UK to be honest. The UK, and the West in general is a very apperarance orientated society where night game in bars/clubs is key to your success, while a lot of other cultures value other qualities equally or more than looks. If you're under 30 and have top tier looks, you could probably get as much pussy in England as you could in Latin America, Asia etc because of the loose nature of the women. No guarantees on quality though.

Post: #193

Agree with above, british girls in bars and clubs just care about looks. Being tall, muscular, dark mediterranean above average looking guy used to literally make me feel as a sexual object when out at night around british girls/women, no game at all and still pulling/getting pulled like crazy, on the contrary below average looking guys with much better game than mine getting nothing at all.

Post: #194

I am a Brit and Adrenaline you are spot on unless you find the rare hen who likes a bit of personality! I think status here also helps!

Post: #195

(04-07-2016 07:29 AM)Tex Wrote:  

(04-07-2016 06:43 AM)Vicious Wrote:  UK by far the easiest, but quality is not the best. In many cases it's like drinking that classic Drano cocktail. Sure it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside.

There's so much discrepancy with people and what they say about the UK.

Some say it's impossible to pull there, some say it's easy.

I tore it up in the UK and found it much easier than here in the states, but that was in Scotland during the summer. Is there really that much variety in terms of difficulty in the UK?

Depends on the person as well. I do worse in UK, better in Spain and France.

For another person it might be the reverse.

I'm looking forward to spend more significant time in other countries but for language reasons and other reasons I keep coming back to the same countries.

Post: #196

i will talk more by citcies :

easiest : i think budapest , or hungry in general.

hardest : this time is not a thought but a confirmation , Paris is the hardest city in the world not only europe, by far

Post: #197

(04-12-2016 07:59 PM)AWinners Wrote:  i will talk more by citcies :

easiest : i think budapest , or hungry in general.

hardest : this time is not a thought but a confirmation , Paris is the hardest city in the world not only europe, by far

Why would you say that??

Post: #198

Budapest is actually not an easy city to pull in.

When you read between the post , a lot of dudes strike out but are still happy to be around the sheer quality.
The majority of average dudes that go there don't get any quality Hungarian girls.
They stick to places like a simple ( which is still great) but it has a lot of foreigners to begin with.

Budapest becomes a playground for dudes that already have established game.

Post: #199

(04-12-2016 08:09 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 07:59 PM)AWinners Wrote:  i will talk more by citcies :

easiest : i think budapest , or hungry in general.

hardest : this time is not a thought but a confirmation , Paris is the hardest city in the world not only europe, by far

Why would you say that??

for hungry i have a credible freind who was there and he tells me that girls are very easy there


for paris , i find competition so high , girls have a strong bitch shields , in paris after 30 minutes you will find any girl alone , or the fewer who are alone are parisians who reject all guys. thats my experience

Post: #200

Easiest and best quality - Ukraine (that is why I am coming back in 4 weeks)
Hardest and low quality - Netherlands.

Disclaimer: I speak fluent Russian, and look somewhat Spanish,, results may vary.