Post: #1

It's best to hang with guys who have better game than you, but sometimes, you might end up hanging with guys who don't know what they are doing.

This thread is for sharing strategies on how to save a misstep by a friend who's company you are in.

The first one that I'm sure you've all experienced is the friend who is gawking at some girls a it's the bar and tells you to check then out.

Since you are a player you've already assessed the entire room within seconds of walking in, and two guys staring at the girls across the bar doesn't help the cause. Do you don't look, and you change the discussion topic with your friend. It's obvious that he's nervous, so I think that's the best move.


I'm sure you guys have been in this kind of situation.

Post: #2

Yes sir! There are many guys that are convinced they are cool but are just as dangerous (or worse) than the fat female cockblocker. Hell, I know how to navigate around the fat female cockblocker (it can be as easy as handing hot chick your card and leaving...1 hour later they call you). But, there is NO answer for your pal that thinks he is cool with chicks (and isn't), and absolutely has no ability to keep things incognito (insert: WHAT, you think THAT chick would be blah, blah, blah...). Just say no!

My longtime solution:
- If I'm planning on meeting girls, I'm 89% SOLO
- If I have a wingman, it is a lesbian (laugh all you want...but, a cool lesbian can be an awesome wingman)

Basically, when I hang out with dudes I'm not even going to bother trying to convert. I may talk to some cool girls, but convert...probably no, because the logistics will always end up fubar. Realistically, I simply plan to have a good time and take a break from being on the hunt.

[Note: this is just one data point and only relates to the guys in my social circle...I'm sure that having a wingman can work for many]

Post: #3

Any guy who rolls with me is going to get introduced by TONS OF WOMEN through me. Anything else beyond that isn't my issue...

I also like accusing chicks for trying to steal my guy friends as if he's my little sister or something. A guy rolling with me ALWAYS has more value than a random woman and I act accordingly. THIS IS MY BOY!!! Even if he's a guy I met that night through a good friend. As a group we never get into any "shitty" situations because I'm highly aware of the overall group vibe.

Post: #4

Distant light I think you are one of the most underrated players on here.

Post: #5

(03-13-2014 12:16 AM)soup Wrote:  Since you are a player you've already assessed the entire room within seconds of walking in, and two guys staring at the girls across the bar doesn't help the cause. Do you don't look, and you change the discussion topic with your friend. It's obvious that he's nervous, so I think that's the best move.

Yeah that's definitely a frustrating non-gamer buddy situation, another one in the same vein: when you talk to a group of girls early on, you sense that it's going nowhere and the approach dies, but then your buddy gets tunnel vision all night and keeps looking out for those same girls instead of new ones. It's led to some awkward situations where the girls and us will bounce around the same neighborhood and end up in the same bar later, and my friend has stubbornly gone to re-approach them. Distraction is the only answer, I've never seen anything good come of pursuing in that situation.

There are two main problems I've ran into with going out with non-gamer/less-than-suave friends, and here's how I damage control them:
1. Logistics: both carpooling and pregaming lead to bad situations. If I drive down with friends I feel obligated to get them back in one piece, and anytime I've joined them for a pre-drink at an apartment it swiftly goes from a quick let's-have-a-shot to an hour long affair, and I start the night both later and drunker than is effective. And of course, if I have to head back in the group (or worse yet DD them back) then there's no chance of pulling end of the night.

If I want a chance of picking up while out with those friends, I start the night as if I were solo and try to get to the bar a good half hour before they arrive. Something about walking into the bar on my own gets me in the right mindset, and I'm then comfortable going my own way after hitting it off with a girl. At this point my friends know that I'll be in and out, and that if I disappear by the end of the night it's nothing personal.

2. Obligatory wingmanship: a big pet peeve of mine is when I'd approach, get a solid start, and then a clueless buddy would barge in and insist on being introduced. It's killed quite a few approaches, especially when said friend has drank too much or otherwise came across sloppy.

This is one where I always set expectations...I tell friends before the night gets going that if i'm talking to girls, I'll bring them in if I see a good opportunity to introduce them and otherwise give me time to work. Like the first issue my usual friends expect this now, though times when I make insta-friends on a solo night I'm reminded how many guys out there will do this naturally (and obnoxiously)

Post: #6

One of my roommates has the opposite of what you all are curing.

He's the type that gets drunk, acts goofy with his buddies, and talks about reasons why the girls here won't work.
The, I'm better than her, she's too much work, *insert trait* girls always have their guard up.




My last notch had a friend of hers walking up to him all flirty later the same night... wanting to talk.. wanting to take him to a different party for a bit... etc.
She was running game ON him.

She walked off frustrated for a bit and I had to spell out she was attracted, point out all the IOIs he was missing, and then call him a pussy and complain about the smell until he left the room.
Some dudes just need a little confidence boost and reminded that girls want sex too.

Every time he and his buddy seperated themselves from the kill I had to go berate them and coach them back in the right direction. They'd got the girls to our house then somehow didn't think the girls were down.

Like herding cats.