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There's been extensive discussion on the Los Angeles Thread from LA playboys discussing logistics and how to pull regularly in LA.

After many years living in LA, I believe I have come up with a somewhat 'foolproof' formula for pulling a chick in LA.

Is there some work involved? Depends on what you view as work.

Is there some money involved? Some, but can be done on the cheap if you plan in advance.

Is this the absolute BEST way I have discovered to getting a ONS in LA when hitting up bars, clubs or lounges? Yes.

Without further ado gentlemen...

McQueen's Getting Laid In LA Formula Data Sheet

There are five main components that make up this formula:

Hotel, Pre-Party Plan, Nightlife Connections, Uber or Driver and After-Party Plan

1. Hotel

Anyone who has lived in LA realizes that logistics can absolutely destroy the best players in the world. Regardless of your level of Game, logistics is the biggest cockblock in LA.

You meet a sexy girl in Hollywood, find out she lives in Marina Del Rey and you live in the Valley. On top of that, she rode with her friends and she'd love to come with you to your spot, but her friends are nervous about you being so far away from where they live. What the hell do you do?

The most important step in this equation is booking a hotel in advance in the heart of Hollywood, or in close proximity to where you're staying.

For example: If you're partying in Santa Monica, then book a hotel within blocks of the best bars and lounges. If it's Hollywood, then you want to be within a few blocks radius of Hollywood Boulevard. Having a hotel room on Sunset Boulevard is a win-win as well. If you're partying downtown Los Angeles, then staying at The Standard Hotel is a good call.

The point is, where ever you plan to party, you must get a hotel that is within stumbling distance or a quick Uber or cab ride away. I'm talking less than a five minute ride max.

Price

There's no need to spend an arm and a leg on a hotel room. Sure, you can snag a room at the W Hotel on Hollywood Boulevard and Argyle and not only is it a well-known hotel, but the lobby on the weekends is packed with girls. This makes your logistics as easy as partying in Vegas.

But, for the budget conscious, you can easily book a hotel room at the Holiday Inn on Franklin Boulevard just a few blocks away for half the price. The rooms are clean, it's a well-known hotel and it's cheap.

If you have a good wingman, get double beds and split the price. Now you've maybe spent $100 each max (if you get a cheaper room) and sometimes as cheap as $75.

Not only do you now have a room and a bed to pull that sexy filly to, but you don't have to worry about DUI's. A DUI in California will cost you over $10,000 in fines and court fees, plus you generally get your license taken away for 6 months. $75-100 doesn't sound too bad does it?

Total Spent: $75-100 (with wingman or $150-200 solo)

2. Pre-Party Plan

Make a liquor store run before you check into your hotel. If you live in the suburbs you can check out Bevmo or Costco (if you have a membership) for even bigger discounts on your favorite alcohol. If not, grab 2 bottles of alcohol:

Vodka

Whiskey

These two beverages are guaranteed sure-fire winners for girls who will be attending your After-Party. Obviously, if you're not into either of those, grab a bottle of your preference, but make sure you definitely have those.

Also, grab Mixers (Sprite and Coke are good) and Plastic Cups. If you don't smoke, wouldn't hurt to snag a pack of cigarettes for the after-party. It's common when people are partying and drinking to want a cigarette. Cut out ANY logistics issues by grabbing a pack of cigs, condoms and chewing gum.

Budget Breakdown:

1 bottle of mid-grade Vodka: $20

1 bottle of mid-grade Whiskey $20

1 Pack of Cigs $6

1 Pack of Condoms $5

1 Pack of Chewing Gum $2

Total: $53

Now that you have your essentials, you can head to your hotel to take your time getting ready and Pre-Drink. Here's where saving money comes into play: Since you've already bought your pre and after party drinks, you won't need to spend a dime in the club. Period. Pre-party until you have your comfortable buzz and fill up a Flask with your favorite alcohol BEFORE you roll out. Any club worth it's salt does not pat down patrons (unless you like ghetto spots), so as long as you conceal the flask you're fine. Hell, they even have fake iPhone flasks now that look just like an iPhone, but are flasks and they're only a few bucks.

3. Nightlife Connections

If you really want to make sure that your night goes smoothly, then get your Nightlife Connects down pat. Besides learning how to get a club On-Lock yourself, make connects with the right promoters and VIP Hosts. This is not that hard. If you're going out anyway on the regularly, then make a point to do this. This will ensure that you won't be waiting in line and won't be paying cover to get into the tightest new joints.

Shoot a text to a couple of promoters and hosts and get your name locked down for a FEW lists. Not just one spot. Remember, this is about you getting laid in LA, so you may have to bounce venues. Covering your bases is a key element of this working properly. I would say get your name on lists for 3 spots. If after hitting 3 nightclubs in LA you don't find anything, then I would jump to hotel bars and lounges for last call, but odds are you will find something for the night after 3 venues, if not less.

Having your connects means you'll save money by NOT paying cover, paying for drinks or any other possible club expenses.

In essence: You're trading club expenses for the hotel expense while increasing your ONS chances exponentially.

4. Uber

If you're within 2-3 blocks from the clubs, then simply walk, or if you're lazy like me then take a Uber. It won't costs you more than $5-8. I tend to lose my buzz when walking more than a block, so I generally elect to grab an Uber.

The key to Uber is AFTER you pull a chick. You have to be able to walk outside of the club and IMMEDIATELY head to your hotel room for your after party. There can be no waiting around for 15-20 minutes on a cab while the girls get cold feet and decided to head home. Move fast, efficient and always keeping the party jumping.

5. After-Party

After-parties are the key to Los Angeles nightlife.

Who has one?

Where's the best one?

Can we get in?

Everyone wants to know. The key this night because you followed this Master Plan to a T, is that YOU now have the after party so you hold the power.

A simple, "Let's afterparty at my hotel. I've got alcohol", is your golden line. The girl(s) follow suit and you hop in an Uber and you're on your way.

Do NOT make the chicks walk 4 blocks to your hotel. Every block they walk increases your chance of them changing their minds, getting tired or them possible losing interest because of the shiny new Hummer that just pulled up.

Your costs are roughly $160+, but it depends on how many buddies you split the costs with etc.

Guaranteed though, by the time you pay for parking $15, cover $20, and drinks in the clubs, you'll have EASILY spent $160+, so it makes much more sense to spend money on your logistics with a hotel etc.

Take Charge, Lead and Enjoy the Rewards.

Los Angeles can be very tough if you're not on top of your Game and have your Logistics On-Lock.

Follow this formula and watch your success rate increase greatly.

Post: #2

Long term game with resources needed but a great breakdown.

Post: #3

This formula is brilliant and I bet it can be used in any major American city. You could even throw in a traveling story if necessary.

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(03-12-2014 05:30 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  This formula is brilliant and I bet it can be used in any major American city. You could even throw in a traveling story if necessary.

Beat me to the punch.

Exactly.

Fake name, fake story, fake phone number (if you even need to give it out) and you're golden.

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(03-12-2014 05:25 PM)booshala Wrote:  Long term game with resources needed but a great breakdown.

I figured someone would bring this up so here's the point though:

1. This is based on a cat ALREADY going out, but instead of spending money on drinks, covers and parking, he's spending it on the hotel and the alcohol bottles.

2. If a guy is regularly going out in LA (or any city), he should already be making the club connects, so although it seems long term game, if you live in a city, but your logistics are shit, then it works.

The obvious solution is to have your crib be in a great party area, BUT in Hollywood that could mean paying hundreds more a month and most people don't actually work in Hollywood.

If you work in Orange County or in Woodland Hills, it doesn't make sense to spend extra on rent and gas for partying 1-2 nights a week.

Lastly, I forgot to add this, but you can book a room on Airbnb as well and sometimes can get a great setup for about the same as a hotel. This can add to your 'story' if you so choose to use one.

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The real question is what type of condoms and gum does Christian McQueen buy?

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This piece of Swiss has one giant hole in the center.

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Great stuff. I'll be in L.A. for a week next month and already booked my hotel in Hollywood. Now I just need the connections...

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I'm a big fan of hotel stays. I've stayed away from Hollywood for several years for a number of reasons, namely logistics. Its a lot of work keeping connections tight but if I were going to go out there, I'd do a hotel. Driving out there from the westside is just asking for trouble in one way or another.

I do this every so often in Newport Beach (well, actually technically Costa Mesa). There's a nightlife/bar area there called Triangle Square (few clubs, bars, etc there as well as the Goat Hill tavern across the street) and there are some cheap Comfort inn type hotels for $99 a night next door about a block away. During the day time I take a bus down to the Peninsula (20 minutes or so) and do some day drinking then party at night next door in multiple venues. I've even stayed at a $99 Residence Inn a few times next door to the notorious "cougar den" "The Foxfire" in Anaheim Hills.

You can also do this in the Hermosa Beach area as there are a few $99 hotels around there near the pier and there are always young girls out there. Santa Monica/Beach area, I'd think it'd be a little harder since hotel rooms are pretty expensive even in the shitty hotels 2-3 miles away from the beach. I'd imagine Hotel Tonight would work as well to book cheaper rooms, never used it personally as I plan ahead and book online instead of the day of.

I just checked right now on Hotel Tonight.

The Standard- $175
Roosevelt- $250
Something called the "Dixie" on Hollywood and Western- $99

I'd also think hotel amenities also factor into the pricing. For example, having access to the Roosevelt's or W's pool or having a good bar or lounge inside the venue in which your hotel is simply upstairs. To me, this is probably worth an extra $100 in the grand scheme of things. To be staying at a desirable venue AND having access and logistics.

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Good shit McQueen.

Don't forget the time aspect. LA / Cali nightlife starts earlier and ends earlier: last call is 1:30ish. You don't want to pre-party too late into the night...

Also agree with the AirBNB recommendation. I stayed here for new years eve a few months ago: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/508452

5-10 min walk from the W Hotel. $119 or so a night. TWO bedrooms and two restrooms and large living room for an after party. Two parking spots included too. If you've got a wing, this is WAY better than sharing a hotel room.

Finally, be sure to budget another $5 or so for a LA bacon wrapped hot dog, and please tip the illegal who is serving it. You'll be hungry, and there is the last minute possibility of a swoop since lots of girls are buying these at the end of the night.

   

God I fucking miss late night LA food. Dirty dogs, Tommys, Jack in the crack, and taco trucks...

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Are any of those hotels on the Priceline name your own price list? I always use this when traveling to another city and I usually get hotels the day of at around 60 to 70 percent of the listed price on the hotel's website before being raped with hotel taxes. Some hotels do not participate and booking a Las Vegas hotel on the strip the day of did not work very well my first visit. You can pick neighborhoods and stick with them if you choose to, but it's generally not going to work out as well by trying to book the day of in that zone for a 50 to 55 percent cut in price. I tend to ignore the suggested bid. You can find out more about strategy on the betterbidding forums.

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This guy is a smooth criminal. I see you player.

Never been to LA but if I do go I'm hitting you up for sure.

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That last call shit caught me out my first night in LA, Christian hooked me up though.

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(03-12-2014 06:31 PM)Skye Wrote:  The real question is what type of condoms and gum does Christian McQueen buy?

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^ Hell yes! Mcqueen nailed that

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In the years I lived in L.A. how the hell did I not think of this. I feel dumb right about now.

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Nothing but the truth bro. Only slight quible is that most promoters still charge random guys 20 buxs/head after 11pm for glist.

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Great work, Christian. I might put this to good use if I ever decide to make a trip out west.

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2nd the Hotel Tonight app. It won't work after 2am though.

Good stuff here.

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(03-12-2014 05:30 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  This formula is brilliant and I bet it can be used in any major American city. You could even throw in a traveling story if necessary.

This.

I'm about an hour away from Kansas City so using the hotel as a base is a must! I really gotta move out to KC and lock the logistics down.

Although I tried Hotel Tonight and KC has nothing... I use priceline's app to get a nice luxury room for $75 or so.

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(03-12-2014 05:42 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 05:25 PM)booshala Wrote:  Long term game with resources needed but a great breakdown.

I figured someone would bring this up so here's the point though:

1. This is based on a cat ALREADY going out, but instead of spending money on drinks, covers and parking, he's spending it on the hotel and the alcohol bottles..

This is actually really really good. Having bottles of alcohol just makes everything better it's like you add an extra level of class, and fun that a lot of these women fantasize about. Why do you think bottle service is so popular now? Hell, with this method, its like having yoru own private bottle service for like 1/64th the price! (I've seen bills of cusomters spending up to 2k for a NIGHT of bottle service in a club. . .seriously. . .and these bottles are CHEAP in any liquor store)

(03-12-2014 10:03 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  In the years I lived in L.A. how the hell did I not think of this. I feel dumb right about now.

You could probably do this in any major city you live in, ESPECIALLY since you're American and live abroad. The part of basically creating your own personal private bottle service is just awesome.

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If a night out is going to be focused in a certain neighborhood like this, pipelining the promoters is good...I also pipeline fellow party guys in the area that aren't so connected to the biz side, but party and know about the house party scene.

When I go out I'm meeting people, making friends, buying drinks for cool guys if we talk business and I learn something. Usually if they are party people I grab their number. Then when I'm in that neighborhood again I ping out to all those guys something like 'tearing up *neighborhood xyz* tonight. see you out bro.'

This is to guys that I think are cool. 99% of them respond, either with
'in for the night'
'hey i have plans at *place abc* see you out!'
'hey the party i'm at sucks! where you at?'

It's a cooler way to keep a network than a lame ass facebook message or email.

Sometimes you'll get a direct invitation to get in on their plans, other times it's a thermometer for which places are hot that night. It helps to build momentum, and can sometimes really build your night up. I like connections with promoters, but at the end of the day a lot of them (not all) will overhype their own venue when there's something REALLY poppin' just on the other side of the street. And you'll totally miss out on house parties. Pulling from a house party to your hotel...money.

Most men that have social skills will invite you out next time they are doing something cool. Provided you're cool to begin with. Take them up on it, if you don't take the first invite there's probably not going to be a second because no one wants to look needy

Slightly unrelated, but my favorite line from 'Limitless' is

'don't make the classic smart person mistake of thinking no one is as smart as you'

Don't make the classic cool person mistake thinking no one is as cool as you.

Respect the players, and the game is a lot more fun. The cream rises to the top, anyway

Post: #23

Good thread bro I live in LA and party in the Hollywood area often and you're dead on. I have a house near the dodger stadium and it's still tricky to get them back over my place most times even though it's like 10 mins away. I usually hit club Playhouse because I usually pick up on the international chick which is pretty damn easy. Spring break and summer is here ?. On me if you ever want to meet up and game. Have you ever been to hooray henerys?