Post: #1

Last year I worked in a store where one of my bosses was an attractive girl. Let's call her Jane. She's just my type: light skin, brown hair, faint freckles, and just enough meat on her to give her some nice cushion but nowhere near fat. She's only a year or two older than me, but being that I'm still in college I was there part time as an hourly worker and she was/is a manager on salary. Needless to say, she wasn't attracted to me. I ran into her at a bar once when I was still working there and she was friendly, but there's nothing more to that story. It's not like I'm unattractive, but as you guys probably know better than I do, hypergamy and all that stuff. No way a girl like her with options would be into one of her peon workers, even though I am a good looking dude who does decent with women.

Fast forward to this Tuesday and I'm at one of my favorite bars. I run into a buddy I haven't seen in a long time ("Tom") and we're chatting, when suddenly we notice Jane. Apparently Tom got her number one time but never called her. We bullshit for a little longer, then split up since I have some women to talk to. A little later I'm at the bar ordering a drink when I see Jane on the other side. We make eye contact, I smile at her, then go back to flirting with different girls. Seed planted.

Later on I'm going out to smoke when I run into Tom and his friends talking to Jane and her friend. Apparently she remembered him. I talk to them for a few mins, telling a story and cracking everyone up, before I go outside for that cigarette. When I come back in, Jane and her friend are at the bar away from Tom and his friends, and Tom's saying goodbye to his friends, as his wingmen are leaving. Being the good guy I am, I tell Tom fuck it, I'll take Jane's less than attractive friend for him so he can have another shot. However, something unexpected happens: as we're talking to them, I quickly realize that they're not interested in Tom, and both of them are way more into me. Naturally, I exploit this and start escalating (first just fucking with her, then whispering in her ear to talk, then touching, etc). Tom is not taking this unexpected turn of events well and starts getting nervous. Apparently he doesn't read RoK. After about 15 mins of this, Tom says he wants a shot and says he wants to switch spots with me so he can order one. The way we were positioned was in a corner with the bar on one side and the wall on the other. Jane was at the bar and I was right next to her, hand resting comfortably on her hip at this point, while Tom was away from the bar and behind us. Not thinking about the implications, I agree to switch spots so he can get his drink. As soon as I take my hand off of her and walk away I realize, shit, that was stupid. The girls turn their backs to both me and Tom and I watch their body language go from open and interested to closed off in about 3 seconds. I casually try to interject myself back into their conversation, but I get a dismissive response. I take the hint and just walk away. I assume that's probably the last time I'm going to see her and consider it a learning experience. A few minutes later, I'm outside the bar with a cigarette when I hear Jane call my name. I turn around and she tells me she's leaving as she's walking out (ignoring Tom, who is standing right next to me). I wave goodbye and she hops into a cab.

Had she not said goodbye to me, I wouldn't be writing this post. But she put in that little bit of effort to try and end the interaction on a good note, and she ignored Tom, so clearly she wasn't doing it just to be friendly. My gut tells me it would be worth contacting her. I don't have her number, but I have her on Facebook. My question to you all is: how should I approach this? Due to the nature of how our last interaction ended (me basically cockblocking myself), I don't think I should waste time with boring hey how are you shit. My plan is to send her a bold/funny message and if she responds then push for a meet up asap. I was thinking of using the "love is patient, love is blind, love is better from behind" restart text that I picked up from this place. Worked well with 2 other girls, although with them I had their phone numbers, which according to what I've read is different than sending a message on Facebook.

Any thoughts?

Post: #2

Does she work in a clothing store?

What kind of store?

Some Next Level Game would be to take a different hot chick with you shopping (for yourself) and 'happen' to go into Jane's store.

Act natural and chill.

Her interest will do the rest (if she's interested).

Never underestimate the Power of Pre-Selection.

Post: #3

Yeah it's a clothing store, Abercrombie & Fitch. Shitty clothes, I don't wear em since I quit, but the jeans weren't bad so I could go back to "look for a pair". I definitely agree with your logic; pretty sure the reason she was into me at the bar was because before I even talked to her she saw me approaching women left and right and being successful with them. You think there's a time limit on how long I could wait before I do that? Not sure I could set something like that up soon (I work weekends during the day and am in school all day during the week so my free time to go to that store is nonexistent), but maybe in a few weeks when I have some time off.

Edit: I actually fucked a girl who still works there, maybe I could do something with that.

Post: #4

Yea that's exactly why.

I've had 'cold girls' who warmed up instantly when they saw me roll into the club with a fine chick.

It's in females competitive nature to compete for a High Value Male. They're wired that way so learn to work it.

You could hit her up on FB, but honestly I would take it as a learning experience (the situation at the bar) and move on. When YOU get time then pull the store move with a chick, but, here's a piece of advice that is the God's truth:

The moment you start approaching like crazy and building leads, is when the universe shifts and 'old' girls (like the store manager) come looking for you.

Why is this?

Because your energy and frame are consistent with a man in demand, because you ARE a man in demand by many girls. Then when you go to game her you'll be more on point and really won't even care as much, because you'll so have many options.

Remember gents: the more plates you spin, the better your game becomes by default, because no longer are you Faking being busy or high value, but you actually ARE busy and in demand, thus raising your value.

To answer the question of contacting her on Facebook...Do you think a High Value Alpha Male sits on FB deciding what to email ONE girl?

No.

Post: #5

I worked at A&F for a couple semesters when I was in college.

ANY girl working at Abercrombie and especially a store manager are DTF. Period. How do you think she got the manager position? Not because of her great folding jeans and molesting manequins skills.

I used to bang my assistant store manager in the dressing room ON shift. The old school Abercrombies had floor to ceiling doors on the dressing rooms, unlike the new ones which are partial doors.

Post: #6

Great advice, I won't hit her up. Thanks McQueen.

Would still love to hear other's opinions

Post: #7

(03-06-2014 10:01 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  I worked at A&F for a couple semesters when I was in college.

ANY girl working at Abercrombie and especially a store manager are DTF. Period. How do you think she got the manager position? Not because of her great folding jeans and molesting manequins skills.

I used to bang my assistant store manager in the dressing room ON shift. The old school Abercrombies had floor to ceiling doors on the dressing rooms, unlike the new ones which are partial doors.

Oh I def know she's DTF. She told me her sister went to Arizona State and had to drop out after a year, presumably for being a huge whore. The two of them hang out and are pretty close so you can only assume that they're not too different from each other.

But yeah that place was a pussy paradise. I work at a different store now that has commission and competitive sales. Better for my resume and possibly good experience for a future marketing/sales job, but worse for my dick.

Post: #8

I forgot my lighter on your chest.

Post: #9

At least now when/IF you cross paths again you can step to her like a man...

Hopefully, that experience at the bar has melted away in your head that Boss/Subordinate dynamic.

At the end of the day, you are a MAN and she is a woman. Game on as usual...

BTW, IMHO shy away from a FB re-entry as it only lumps you in with the other orbitors she prolly already has online.

A "coincidental" meeting would likely put the odds in your favor. You want it to be more "organic"...then continue running script sans your mans since he was kinda salty last go round'.

Happy Hunting

Post: #10

Good advice all, will stay away from the Facebook when it comes to women.

Post: #11

I co-sign what Christian is saying.

I've gone back banged more than a few old co-workers.
Going in with a legit hot female friend helps wonders. Or even doing a mall hang-out day 2 or day 3 works.
Both of the girls don't know how you know the other girl (high octane hamster petrol).

Once you get the number it's game by the numbers. In fact it should be easier because she already knows you.