Post: #26

^ What did I just post Eradicator?

Quote:The main thing to remember though is that you should be your own monitor for Red Flags too, if you find yourself rationalizing a girl's behaviour in order to continue seeing her, she's already winning.

If a bunch of friends know even part of the story and they say to cut her loose, and you're arguing her side, she's already winning.

Post: #27

(03-25-2014 12:55 AM)anonymous123 Wrote:  DBA - I agree, but only if you know what to look for. The fact is, a smoking hot chick that says "I just want a regular guy" seems so normal. Their whole card is to blend in like normal. Chameleons. Sirens.

Once you know the classic signs, it is almost like they are aware you can detect them.

- Push/Pull
- Afraid of being alone
- Splitting (black or white)
- Promiscuity (invisible ones will convince you they are Donna White when really more like Jenna Jamison)
- Fall in love instantly / soul mates
- Gaslighting
- Feeling of "needing" someone else to survive / doesn't want to be alone (e.g. asks you to stay the night on the first night and will beg for you to stay if you want to leave)
- Heavy need for reassurance
- Difficulty tolerating aloneness, even for short periods of time.
- Lives may be a chaotic landscape of job losses, interrupted educational pursuits, broken engagements, hospitalizations.
- Many have a background of childhood physical, sexual, or emotional abuse or physical/emotional neglect.

OH, and if you have any of the above and see this big red flag:
- If early on she tells you about all of the HORRIBLE relationships she has been in, especially claims of RAPE, and BATTERY, by more than one ex-boyfriend/husband...be VERY careful!

Well if I could write this list better I would. Been on and off with 1 girl in particular that exudes many of these traits. Drama train from hell really.

And of course the sex is outrageous sometimes, and has a bangin soft supple body, but not fat. What to do, what to do...

Currently in midst of cutting her off. Too many lies, too much shit she's trying to hide that I find.

BPD clearly emanates from deep insecurity issues, female hamster and justification monkey (<did everyone forget that term from BANG? one of my favorites) on NO2.

Currently I have her nixed, problem is per game laws, I can already see it bringing her back and it isn't healthy at all for me.

I'll update in next month or so to where this stands. Crazy ass bitch.

Post: #28

Another thing regarding guys recognizing their own red flags.

If you're someone who usually sees the optimistic side of things, or see the potential in everyone to better themselves, you'll be more likely to get drawn into drama with these chicks.

It's like a male version of females wanting to change their man "for the better", or sometimes a variation on white knighting.

Post: #29

(03-25-2014 12:55 AM)anonymous123 Wrote:  - Push/Pull
- Afraid of being alone
- Splitting (black or white)
- Promiscuity (invisible ones will convince you they are Donna White when really more like Jenna Jamison)
- Fall in love instantly / soul mates
- Gaslighting
- Feeling of "needing" someone else to survive / doesn't want to be alone (e.g. asks you to stay the night on the first night and will beg for you to stay if you want to leave)
- Heavy need for reassurance
- Difficulty tolerating aloneness, even for short periods of time.
- Lives may be a chaotic landscape of job losses, interrupted educational pursuits, broken engagements, hospitalizations.
- Many have a background of childhood physical, sexual, or emotional abuse or physical/emotional neglect.

Being with her completely wrecked me, I started smoking, gained a lot of weight, couldn't focus on work, arguing and banging everyday, spent way too much money, even though I was having the most incredible sex with the hottest girl I had ever been with, specifically, the best pair of breasts I have ever been with. Getting away got my life straight.

Could go on and on, but I have, and its interesting to hear how similar this behavior is. We need to discuss red flags more. Not just BPD, but across the board.

Post: #30

(03-27-2014 08:29 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Not even sure if this belongs here. Just met a chick off of okcupid that is possibly crazy.

Very hot, almost too hot for online dating unless she was severely damaged.

Does not want to give out her phone number, instead talked me into installing kik on my phone.

We talk a little on kik and she flat out says she just wants to have sex with me straight away.

Eventually calls me but masks her number so it is restricted and wants me to have phone sex with her. I tell her I do not get off on that and need to feel the flesh.

I could tell something was off, and she admits to crying earlier and being on anti depressants. But does not want to say what pills she is taking because that is too personal.

Has a dead brother. As long as she didn't kill him, i think i can live with it.

Before she called, she freaked out on me, I was like 'what, you just want to come over and have sex, just like that?' and she said we could have dinner first. I said maybe lunch would be better in case we decided we aren't a good match. She lost it and said I was rude and made her cry.(then immediately called and asked for phone sex and swapped nude pix). My brain is telling me to stay away because of the red flags, my dick wants to bang.

the other red flag is that she is in anaheim and listed herself as in los angeles on okc. Banging body, nice face, but fucked up emotionally and possibly crazy. Do I cut her off or pursue her and bang?

Post: #31

(03-27-2014 09:53 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  She doesnt have your number or name?

Rent a room, cash, and hit it then disappear.

she has my number and first name, not my address. what if i want to make it a regular thing? blah this is too fucked up, even for me to consider.

Post: #32

Quote:Hey, your a crazy bitch
But you fuck so good I'm on top of it
When I dream, I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on

But on that subject, I met up with an OKCupid cutie at our local watering hole earlier this week. Told her we'd really hang out this Friday (can't get crazy on a weeknight, wage-slave!) but she gave off some weird vibes. Openly admitting to meth use for 10 years from the age of 12. She looks damn good though considering that, because I've seen the famous meth picture galleries so maybe she wasn't on it very heavy. No car and no license so that's always interesting.

I've been hit up by so many fakes on Tinder, I'm convinced nobody real is actually on KIK and not giving a number is a cover for them being artificial.

Post: #33

(03-28-2014 05:45 AM)eradicator Wrote:  

(03-27-2014 09:53 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  She doesnt have your number or name?

Rent a room, cash, and hit it then disappear.

she has my number and first name, not my address. what if i want to make it a regular thing? blah this is too fucked up, even for me to consider.

A regular thing?

She's fucking crazy man.

Post: #34

Oh man...I've had a few.

Common points
-Troubled family life. Death in the family. Cheating spouses. etc etc.
- Exceptionally hot and sparkling personality. I mean just being around them is a rush.
- Willing to do anything to please. No sense of boundaries.
- Exceptionally promiscuous. Filing that bottomless soul w/sex and drugs.
- Social butterfly. Lots and lots of "friends" but few close ones.
- Friends are much uglier/older than her

I've gotten better at spotting it early, but I still love to smash girls like this from time to time. The most important thing for me is either 1) she doesn't know who I am or 2) shes richer than I am, making lawsuits a less likely concern.

My buddy had to pay off 2 BPD girls who tried to sue him for "rape". I think he ended up spending 6k compensation on 1 chick (plus 3k for lawyers) and 10k on another (plus 2.5k for lawyer). Sucks a lot....

MikeCF has a horrible story about it too. Something like 50k in lawyer fees/private investigators, lots of nerves, and other problems.

Be very very careful w/girls like this.

Post: #35

Man, a lot of this shit makes me think my most recent ex was BPD:

-Troubled family life (mom and dad married for 30 years, except then dad left the family to bang dudes because he was a closeted homo)
-Not model hot, but very beautiful ("girlfriend beautiful" as I called her) as well as outgoing and very intelligent
-Friends were way uglier than her, they basically do whatever she wants, and she always had the most male attention out of her friends
-Talked about how her mom would verbally abuse her
-Addicted to Adderall, literally needed it to function
-Would do anything to please me at first until she slowly found out my weaknesses & ways to manipulate me
-Constantly changing her profile pic on FB and keeping in touch with "friends" who aren't really close friends but just people she used to pass the time
-Short, intense relationship
-My motivation for other things aside from sex with her dwindled during the relationship -- lost a lot of my personal drive and cockiness, which came back with a vengeance right after the break up

You know what though? I learned a lot about myself during that break up and as I told my close friend today I would absolutely do it again because I learned some valuable lessons. I'm not sure that I would date a girl like her again (from now on "my dad left my mom because he's gay" is a huge red flag), but I genuinely enjoyed the experience and my life since the break up is better than it has ever been. Maybe this is something every guy needs to try at least once. Just don't get sucked down the rabbit hole and end up dating one of these girls for years.

Post: #36

(04-01-2014 06:54 PM)tawillionaire Wrote:  Man, a lot of this shit makes me think my most recent ex was BPD:

-Troubled family life (mom and dad married for 30 years, except then dad left the family to bang dudes because he was a closeted homo)
-Not model hot, but very beautiful ("girlfriend beautiful" as I called her) as well as outgoing and very intelligent
-Friends were way uglier than her, they basically do whatever she wants, and she always had the most male attention out of her friends
-Talked about how her mom would verbally abuse her
-Addicted to Adderall, literally needed it to function
-Would do anything to please me at first until she slowly found out my weaknesses & ways to manipulate me
-Constantly changing her profile pic on FB and keeping in touch with "friends" who aren't really close friends but just people she used to pass the time
-Short, intense relationship
-My motivation for other things aside from sex with her dwindled during the relationship -- lost a lot of my personal drive and cockiness, which came back with a vengeance right after the break up

You know what though? I learned a lot about myself during that break up and as I told my close friend today I would absolutely do it again because I learned some valuable lessons. I'm not sure that I would date a girl like her again (from now on "my dad left my mom because he's gay" is a huge red flag), but I genuinely enjoyed the experience and my life since the break up is better than it has ever been. Maybe this is something every guy needs to try at least once. Just don't get sucked down the rabbit hole and end up dating one of these girls for years.

Can you PM me her phone number? Just kidding.

Maybe I had an experience with one once, the more I think about it. Just not all the signs and she was just a fuck buddy. Never met her friends, etc. But she was insane.

Post: #37

Since I was mentioned in the original post might as well mention a story(think I was mentioned when I talked about a stalker). I'll update more if I remember(I've stuck my dick in crazy knowingly and unknowingly). This is the story of how I lost my virginity about 4 years ago. It was rather weird as I hit it off with her not at a club, party, or anywhere with drinks but actually at a coffee shop in downtown(it's something I just do just head to random parts of town and meet strangers/hit on girls occasionally if I see something I can't pass up and this was like my 4th or 5th time doing so at the time). So weird bit about all of this is that she gave me a kiss on the lips after talking for an hour and actually pulled me out of the store. She forced me to go to random places on a whim, and do things she wanted(thought she was rather forceful but I was inexperienced with girls and would even blush in those days if I got noticed by one I wasn't forced to work with). Without a ride I stuck around for the whole day with her. I thought it was love at first sight as she was smoking hot, and the fact that she apparently found me so charming even though I could not flirt for shit (it was simply amazing). I invested time, money, and all sorts of things just to be with her and when I first had sex it was the best(about 3 months into the relationship). Well all good things come to an end it all came crashing down after we fucked like jackrabbits for a month. She flat out told me afterward that she only fucked me because she knew I was a virgin with a pretty face. My self-confidence crashed down on itself, but I wanted to keep her around and so I did. For the next period of about 6 or 7 months I was like a punching bag and felt like a worthless piece of shit, and that she was some kind of goddess who was kind enough to take a borderline nerd like me in(I read a lot of books even then). Insulted, belittled, and treated like shit while she also had complete control over my life as well; it all came to an end when I found out she was fucking 4 other guys. I think I tried rationalizing it, but my mind sort of just flat out lost it. I spent the next year or possibly more drinking copious amounts of alcohol and smoking excess amounts of weed to cope with my life(she contacted me several times and we banged while she told me she loved me[never bought it for a second]). I cut off all contact after I found out I still had feeling by blocking her number and deleting the contact. Then not soon after finding out my grandfather(my role model) got cancer. I went to every party, and every time I met a girl I liked there I started to question what I was doing, but after fucking her while flat out drunk and doing it even more with her afterward just to find out that she another slut I became jaded. I became this pleasure addict who just hated everyone, and I lost a lot of my friends due to it as well. Then the bombshell came, and my gramps died. I looked at the mirror and saw every degenerate I met in my life there. I straightened myself out and got my shit together. This was about a year and 5 months ago. I was out of shape got a gym membership, spent time reading political theory/philosophy as well as a lot of Hemingway, and spent time sort of just remembering the life lessons my grandfather had taught me and I had forgotten. I found RoK in August by chance, and became a member of RFV in November(fate as I would like to believe) I became something quasi-redpill after that whole downward spiral, and if my grandfather had not left the world I would not have stepped out. I got into most of my social circles, made some real friends(that I hated initially at the time and only wanted to use), started making music, traveled (with my dying gramps), and settled on a frame of mind because of it so it wasn't all bad. BPD chicks will fuck you up though, and on a young impressionable mind like mine it really did. I wouldn't stick around because that year itself was horrifying, and the fuck buddy thing afterward only made me more angry/jaded.

Red Signs that I experienced
1. Extremely controlling
2. Promiscuous beyond all reason while not letting you do anything of that nature
3. Great in bed(but she my first so some bias)
4.Loving and attached to excess(she cooked for me and was very warm/receptive to teenage angst)
5. Extreme fits of rage(I was hit many times but I took it)
6. Mood swings
7. Texted me nonstop(lost my phone at one point and came back to 30 texts).
8. Extremely social.
9. Goddess complex during the bitch phase after jackrabbit amount of sex.

I reiterate they are good for a fuck but I would run for it right afterward and would never stay the night.

Post: #38

(04-01-2014 07:29 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 06:54 PM)tawillionaire Wrote:  Man, a lot of this shit makes me think my most recent ex was BPD:

-Troubled family life (mom and dad married for 30 years, except then dad left the family to bang dudes because he was a closeted homo)
-Not model hot, but very beautiful ("girlfriend beautiful" as I called her) as well as outgoing and very intelligent
-Friends were way uglier than her, they basically do whatever she wants, and she always had the most male attention out of her friends
-Talked about how her mom would verbally abuse her
-Addicted to Adderall, literally needed it to function
-Would do anything to please me at first until she slowly found out my weaknesses & ways to manipulate me
-Constantly changing her profile pic on FB and keeping in touch with "friends" who aren't really close friends but just people she used to pass the time
-Short, intense relationship
-My motivation for other things aside from sex with her dwindled during the relationship -- lost a lot of my personal drive and cockiness, which came back with a vengeance right after the break up

You know what though? I learned a lot about myself during that break up and as I told my close friend today I would absolutely do it again because I learned some valuable lessons. I'm not sure that I would date a girl like her again (from now on "my dad left my mom because he's gay" is a huge red flag), but I genuinely enjoyed the experience and my life since the break up is better than it has ever been. Maybe this is something every guy needs to try at least once. Just don't get sucked down the rabbit hole and end up dating one of these girls for years.

Can you PM me her phone number? Just kidding.

Maybe I had an experience with one once, the more I think about it. Just not all the signs and she was just a fuck buddy. Never met her friends, etc. But she was insane.

If you live in NYC hit up the upper east side during the day. Don't talk to the WASPy types who have generations of wealth (they're crazy but in a spoiled/bratty way), talk to the Irish/catholics/etc who at least had to have their parents work for their shit. I have a theory that all rich girls are crazy and that's a fucking goldmine of rich girls.

Post: #39

Whoa there, Hwuzhere.

Post: #40

(04-01-2014 07:41 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  She flat out told me afterward that she only fucked me because she knew I was a virgin with a pretty face.

That's interesting because the flight attendant (detailed on 1st page) told me on many occasions that she wished I was "a virgin, not a playboy".

My theory is that these girls value men in a different way to how a "sane" girl would. Basically, we are toys, not people. Being able to control this shiny toy is much more important than the man being high value in the traditional sense.

This is why you often see BPD's with nonthreatening, almost cute-looking guys who are passive as fuck towards women. To these crazy bitches, a new toy is more valuable than an old one that others have had before. This explains the apparent mismatch in the guys they date. The guy is usually shooting far out of his league.

At the other end of the scale, certain BPD's also target the player end of the spectrum. Different kids like different toys, I suppose. Even so, the end goal is to turn the player into her own personal slave to use for validation and later discard.

Post: #41

No direct experience of a real BPD, but I saw a real one in court. I was representing her ex-bf in a case of mutual assaults after she thought he was paying too much attention to another woman at a party.

-She had accused her husband of raping her when she found out she was cheating on him. The guy did 3 years in prison after the jury believed her at trial. Then he had to get a restraining order on her when he got out of prison - she showed up at his place to threaten him and his girlfriend.
-She slashed up another guy's convertible roof and threatened him with a gun when she thought he was cheating on her.
-Hounded another guy about paternity tests for her kid, even though DNA showed it was not his kid, but my client's. Other guy, who was married, had to take out a restraining order on her.

Post: #42

(04-01-2014 11:56 PM)Suits Wrote:  Whoa there, Hwuzhere.

I really have too much time on my hands to detail 4 years of my life.

Post: #43

(04-02-2014 06:12 AM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:56 PM)Suits Wrote:  Whoa there, Hwuzhere.

I really have too much time on my hands to detail 4 years of my life.

But alas, not enough time to make paragraphs.

Post: #44

(04-02-2014 06:37 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 06:12 AM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:56 PM)Suits Wrote:  Whoa there, Hwuzhere.

I really have too much time on my hands to detail 4 years of my life.

But alas, not enough time to make paragraphs.

The more you know it'll serve as a lesson for next time.

Post: #45

It looks like there are a number of us that have had these experiences. And so far we have some good material on the "Identification" part.

Here is where I'm at:
- After going silent on the soviet, I pinged her last week. I figured there would be no chance she would hit me back, but she did. Going to take her to have sashimi and sake tomorrow before I bang her brains out. (this chick is unreal)
- We never had a serious relationship at all. I'd say we have been on 5 dates total (over course of January / early Feb)
- I'm pretty confident that she is the "highly functional / invisible type". She hasn't done anything crazy to me, she has just told me a lot about the past that dropped plenty enough of the hallmark BPD red flags.
- I don't think she is planning on doing anything crazy directly to me anytime soon, if anything this chick is a true ace and would want to go for the big stuff (like, I think her recipe is to rope in highly successful dudes into a marriage...)

I promise I will only fuck her three more times, and no more than one time in a week. Last time I fucked this chick I bruised my own hips because she is fucking insatiable and wants to be destroyed. I've got to have just another round...

Key here: I don't have any feelings and I have a solid harem. So, no oneitis here. (Besides, I definitely need to move on...because although I've been banging, my new notch count has slowed down due to repeat business and now I think soup just edged me out for 2014...a man has got to make a comeback!)

Post: #46

(04-03-2014 10:17 PM)anonymous123 Wrote:  I promise I will only fuck her three more times, and no more than one time in a week. Last time I fucked this chick I bruised my own hips because she is fucking insatiable and wants to be destroyed. I've got to have just another round...

I swear these chicks are like the human form of cocaine. If it was me I'd bang her 1-2 times a month assuming she pulled no funny shit. Your radar is on, just cut her off if she starts being weird. As long as you keep reasonable distance you should be fine. But that's just me.

Post: #47

I'm from a small town of less than 10k people.

Every girl old enough to go to the bar who still lives in that shit hole has BPD, or some sort of mental disorder.

Not joking.

I bet Hotwheels knows what I'm talkin about.

Post: #48

This was one of the few times that I've gone back to revisit someone I knew was crazy without any regrets.

The Soviet. Oh, the joys of soviet pussy! I'm just glad I know 100% that there is no way I'd enter a relationship with her. So, her tales of woe have no affect on me and don't inspire one grain of captain-save-a-Ho.

She has caused me zero drama to date. I got to hear of plenty of new red flags over cappuccinos sitting on my kitchen counter this morning. Even that was quite entertaining. No regrets.

But, this bitch is a true professional BPD. She is highly functional (invisible type) and isn't going to waste her efforts on short term drama like the low functioning highly visible type. Nope. This type of bitch will spin her web over a several years, and on other side of a marriage will bang some poor schmuck for seven figures.

Post: #49

(04-04-2014 10:06 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  I'm from a small town of less than 10k people.

Every girl old enough to go to the bar who still lives in that shit hole has BPD, or some sort of mental disorder.

Not joking.

I bet Hotwheels knows what I'm talkin about.

Post: #50

Is this BPD? This woman made allegations of stalking and sexual harrassment backdated to 2009, but kept sending him friendly communications until 2012.

After she wrote an article on the Scientific American Mind website the guy she accused has gone for the scorched earth method of filing a defamation suit and setting up a website responding to everything:
http://benrlegal.info/karen-stollznows-h...cusations/

Quote:While Karen was talking with Reap after SkeptiCal, I received a text that Reap had just propositioned her based on this “interest” of mine. Reap then contacted me and asked why Karen was such a fucking psycho. She had blurted it out to him that I had this interest and he tried to make light of it. His girlfriend witnessed the whole thing. Karen passionately stands by her story that he brought it up.

...

Karen then grabbed a hammer and smashed Baxter’s camera, destroying it because she believed that was the camera that he had used to photograph the woman. After smashing Baxter’s camera, “Matthew stated Karen then emailed the female in the nude photos and found out from her that Matthew was telling the truth, he actually had not photographed her or slept with her.”

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold