Post: #26

Had anyone here been workring in New Zealand aswell?

Post: #27

Australian economy is now doomed.

No capex in the pipeline, most existing capex winds up in June, Obama now exporting shale gas competing with Oz LNG.

Resources will shed 50-90% if jobs in the next two years and the only recourse the gov thinks of funneling into inflating the Sydney and Melbourne bubbles even more, and debt fir infrastructure.

Iron Ore is going to sub-$40 a ton killing Oz terms if trade, and budget deficits are blowing out to >4% GDP.

There'll be mass unemployment, so locals will restrict foreigners getting a job.

Post: #28

(08-04-2015 02:02 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  Australian economy is now doomed.

No capex in the pipeline, most existing capex winds up in June, Obama now exporting shale gas competing with Oz LNG.

Resources will shed 50-90% if jobs in the next two years and the only recourse the gov thinks of funneling into inflating the Sydney and Melbourne bubbles even more, and debt fir infrastructure.

Iron Ore is going to sub-$40 a ton killing Oz terms if trade, and budget deficits are blowing out to >4% GDP.

There'll be mass unemployment, so locals will restrict foreigners getting a job.

I would respectfully disagree there.

There is no real estate bubble. Desirable real estate in World Cities ACROSS THE PLANET is being eaten up by cashed up parties. SF, London, New York Etc. all have ridiculously high real estate values. Sydney and Melbourne barely caught up. Australian families can still buy homes with <30% of their incomes.

Anyway, back to the topic. There won't be any changes to the WHV programs any time soon. In the cities, hospitality, cleaning, construction (not big projects) work all go to non-nationals and all are being paid well below minimum wage. There is plenty of work around though you need to be prepared to work for $12-15PH. Very hard to live on that in Sydney where a single room outside of the CBD will cost at least $200 a week.

If anyone is in Sydney, speaks excellent English, I will be able to give you the name of a temp agency that places backpackers in call centre rolls for over $20 an hour. If you're interested, PM me.

Post: #29

There is most definately a bubble.

AWOTE for NSW is around $77,500... before tax

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/...num=&view=

The median for stand alone houses in Sydney is nearly $1 mil.

That's more than 12 times net income.

Gross yield on Sydney propety is 3.59%

http://blog.residex.com.au/2015/07/29/41...iJulNews15

If one has a very conservative 0.59% for rinning and maintaining property, you're looking at a P/E of 33.

You're seeing the lowest ever interest rates for servicability purposes.

We are following exactly what Japan did in the late 1980's, of what most of the world did in the 1890's. For Australia, what followed was a depression worse than the one of the 1930's, and our soveriegn debt position is now worse.

We've guttered every industry during the mining boom, so much so 'Dutch disease' will be renamed after us.

For the Canadians, you know Vancouver property, at least you had cities not affected by it. We did it to every city.

Post: #30

Hey mate just came from new Zealand not much work besides labour hire at or a buck or 2 over minimum wage.

Actually applied for a labouring job and asked the wage rate and the women answered ohh its the minimum which is 14.75 because well your "just a labourer".

As a labourer by the way i was doing gut busting work in 30 plus heat .

Giving the thought that new zealands last prime minister helen clark is a self proclaimed feminist its understandable that the predominantly male labourers who are building the country up are getting treated like mongrels.

Post: #31

hey mate ive been over to all major citys in oz and have stayed in hostels for a few months in each.

different chicks you will meet.

Euro babes in cairns.

Curious east asian girls in sydney.

Trendy european girls in melbourne.

Down to earth backpacker types in perth.

Aussie girls are under the impression they are "above you" and tend to act like blokes and will treat you like a clown unless your black or latin.

Post: #32

Good to come over with some bar or barista skills.
There are Labour hire companys around..and I doubt you can just walk onto a building site and start work..unless you have recognized trade skills.
I think the work for a 2nd year visa is a disgrace and should be scrapped.
Backpackers should be allowed a second year if they pay for a visa..also you can't work the same job for more than 6 months ..I also believe this is a disgrace..
Most backpackers I meet are good kids,educated and would be good for Australia.

Post: #33

I just returned from 12 days in Sydney, and the purpose was to get a feel for the city and to activate my working holiday visa. Honestly I was very surprised, and not really in a good way. I had been in Oz in 2002, and so much has changed, everything is almost prohibitively expensive, I stayed in 3 hostels which price wise were higher than Europe, but service wise no where close. I mean like shut down from 10pm-730am every night, (nothing to do, can't check in/out, kitchen closed, no where to socialize), forced to leave a $40 "deposit" for a mug/cutlery, and a retarded fine systems ($50 if you don't put away dishes, $25 for messy bunk area). To add to all that, it seemed like every place was teeming with annoying people under 21 with zero life experience. Everyone was broke, and no one wanted to do anything. They were either working the next day, or had no money/looking for work. I met a few ppl with places in the city, and even they were staying 2-4/room to save money. Pretty much all my exploring/day trips was done on my own. In short, I got no fun beach vacation vibe at all. Purely a survival one. Now coming in the height of winter may have had something to do with that, and I was pleased to see the amount of park/beach places and how many people were actually outside doing things, but the backpacker places weren't what I expected at all. I just don't see the draw in travelling half way around the world to bunk 8 to a room, work a min wage job, eat ramen, while seeing and doing nothing.

When I return, I'll likely come in summer and head up the coast and hopefully that will be better, but I'm not sure how much actual work I'll be doing. Professional work for short term is very difficult to find, unskilled work seems ripe for taking advantage of, skilled trades would honestly be your best bet I think. I met a carpenter making $100/hr, even unskilled construction labour was like $25/hr. Oz is also very much like Canada in that you need some sort of cert or class for damn near every job.

I did have an interesting conversation with someone who said the whole purpose of the farm work restriction was to get cheap labourers into the fields. Unlike the US which has heaps of illegals happy to work for cheap, Oz has no such fortune being isolated and hard to reach via unofficial means. So to keep food costs down, they import WHV people, and entice them with the prospect of another year.

Post: #34

Where were you flying there from?
It's not a smart move to fly half way across the world just to check it out(1-2 weeks). (Return flights are in the thousands). Most people go to aus for like 6months). I do not think it's worth flying all the way there to just "check it out", you either get a job there and stay for longer duration or not go at all.

I was there on a whv and stayed in hostel in the kings cross area. Obviously people are not gonna party everyday as its prohibitively expensive to do so. At most Fridays and Saturdays.

There are some whv jobs for foreigners and some involve manual labor (my friend was working at the warehouse). Obviously no one is gonna give you a skilled permanent cushy job as they want to develop their talent and do not want someone who is just gonna disappear after 6months. (Same rules apply anywhere). So that leaves temp jobs and you gotta actively look for them and not having your mind on sightseeing everyday.