Post: #251

(12-16-2013 04:59 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  What bothers me is that, Girls exactly know why they are offering that and what they want in the end. (unless they have a IQ of little girl following a pedophile with a candy)
But they don't mind putting themselves in that situation to get free stuff.

I'm not sure about this. There's a ton of hamsterism on CS. Sometimes I'll read references and just crack up at the naivete of some women:

"Oh he was such a fantastic and kind host! He picked me up from the airport, took me to dinner, treated me to a night of clubbing and bought me drinks, and the next morning he made me breakfast and then he drove me around town all day to see every sight I've always wanted to see! What a giving and generous person with true CS spirit!"

LOL. Occam's razor tells me he was just hoping for some pussy.

Post: #252

(12-16-2013 02:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Occam's razor tells me he was just hoping for some pussy.

Sure. But, whose pussy? Maybe the guy was just sacrificing the short-term to win in the long-term. I did it, and I wasn't the only one. The plan is as follows:

1) Be extra nice now, treat those CS chicks like princesses, host a few couples and dudes (preferably your buddies) to hide your predatory intent, get a bunch of stellar references, add some "friends" to the friendlist. Don't make a move yet unless she's clearly DTF. Why risk ruining your profile with a neg ref? Use the girls as social proof and status-boosters. Go out with them, and use them to make you look good and high-value. It feels good.

2) Do what is in 1) for a while and soon you will find yourself in the top 20 CS'ers in your city. Then, things get better. You start getting 10 couchrequests per weekend and 50+ requests per month. More options is always good. You start declining over half the couchrequests you get.

3) Lastly, after you have 100+ friends and 50+ references, provided that you have no neg refs, you will be considered "safe", and the number of couchrequests from young women traveling alone increases dramatically, and you will have some of the finest talent on CS at your place on the regular. At this stage, you can host only the finest specimens, and you will be declining 95% of couchrequests. Let the newbies host the fatties, the couples, and the dudes. You paid your dues, now enjoy.

Did this plan work for me? To some extent, it did. But the introduction of open couchrequests ruined things for me. And then I got jaded and stopped hosting.

Post: #253

(12-16-2013 03:15 PM)Icarus Wrote:  Did this plan work for me? To some extent, it did. But the introduction of open couchrequests ruined things for me. And then I got jaded and stopped hosting.

When CS was overhauled, they made changes to the way search rankings functioned. It used to work like Airbnb where the more you host and the more positive references, the higher you'd float up in the search results for your city. Then they changed it because they thought it was unfair to new people and started pushing newbies up to the top of the list. I went from getting multiple couch requests a day to just a couple a month. If you don't rank in the first couple pages of the search rankings you might as well not even exist on the site. That pretty much fucked it up for me.

Post: #254

Alright I just got on this thing. Put up a profile last night and I woke up this morning to a request from a 21yo Russian girl from Moscow. She stated 1) she liked my references and 2) that she would love to have dinner and wine with me.

I see no reason not to host her, even if it doesn't pan out. I will have to go through this thread and get some tips on how to do the conversion from host to fuck buddy.

Post: #255

(12-18-2013 08:24 AM)slubu Wrote:  Alright I just got on this thing. Put up a profile last night and I woke up this morning to a request from a 21yo Russian girl from Moscow. She stated 1) she liked my references and 2) that she would love to have dinner and wine with me.

I see no reason not to host her, even if it doesn't pan out. I will have to go through this thread and get some tips on how to do the conversion from host to fuck buddy.

If she mentions in her first correspondence that she wants to have dinner and alcohol with you, she's clearly attracted and you've got that one in the bag 100% unless you mess it up. Have fun.

Btw, if you just put up a profile last night, how could you have references?

Post: #256

^^ Sorry miswrote it. I've had couchsurfing for a while but never hosted, changed my profile to hosting. All my refs are people I've met while couchsurfing. A lot of girls for good reason

Post: #257

(12-18-2013 08:24 AM)slubu Wrote:  Alright I just got on this thing. Put up a profile last night and I woke up this morning to a request from a 21yo Russian girl from Moscow. She stated 1) she liked my references and 2) that she would love to have dinner and wine with me.

I see no reason not to host her, even if it doesn't pan out. I will have to go through this thread and get some tips on how to do the conversion from host to fuck buddy.

I've got laid a few times as a host. Here's my tactic.
I don't make a move unless I know there's some attraction there otherwise you risk couple of days of awkwardness and a possible neg/neutral ref.
If she's nice and you're not sure what's that about, get close and do some kino, her reaction will tell you where you're standing.
Cooking together helps to build up some attraction and then of course alcohol! If she's up for drinking with you then it's on! Sit on the couch to check some youtube shit while drinking and then take it from there. I found movies a bad choice as they take a long time and usually chicks are tired from site seeing and stuff so they might fall asleep in the middle of the movie.

Post: #258

I was on there the other day writing to someone for some info on an upcoming trip. What was funny is she had this image on her CS profile:



If that doesn't load, it's a big "NO DATING" symbol. She also mentioned it elsewhere in her profile. She was indeed pretty cute, but was also one of the "moderators" for that city. I wonder if they're pushing the mods to do that?

Post: #259

I have a 19 year old Korean staying at my in Feb, do you guys plan day trips with them or let the do as they want . I live in the Burbs of my city so I kind of feel bad( 90 min transit ride to get downtown) .

Post: #260

Banged a russian couchsurfer, way easier than I thought. Story here.

Post: #261

(12-30-2013 03:16 PM)slubu Wrote:  Banged a russian couchsurfer, way easier than I thought. Story here.

Yep. Told ya. If she messaged you first mentioning getting drinks and dinner. You're 95% there. Just gotta show up and not be drooling on the table at that point.

Post: #262

After hosting a bunch of people to build up some fresh refs, I got a couple of girls from Bavaria who wanted to stay 2 nights over NYE. Worked it out with my flatmate, and we arranged so that one girl would stay with him in his room and one would stay with me in mine, separate mattresses of course.

Tried to put my moves on the one who was in my room, when we were alone in my room. She went from "I'm not that kind of girl" to telling me about her cheating and threesome in Australia (btw chicks who go to Australia are the biggest sluts) and we made out a bunch and fell asleep spooning, me holding her boobs, however I was sick and coughing a lot and that fucked me up, I even went downstairs and tried to sleep on the couch for a few hours.

What went well: my usual game, passing their shit tests, having both of them sleep separately.

What didn't go well: me not pushing as hard after we made out, I don't know if I could have gotten the lay the first night or not, but I definitely didn't the next night, she actually told me I was too short for her the next day (she was 6'1" and I'm 5'10").

Things I'd do differently: More wine, push harder the first night for sex, especially if I get a make out. More sexual talk too, probably.

Post: #263

I think couchsurfing is an awesome site.

When I travel I always use it to meet women during the day. I dont stay at their place as you might waste your time with one girl who you dont connect with usually I meet about 6 during the week while doing daygame as well and usually out of the 6 you will have something lined up for the weekend for a second meeting and usually thats when they will stay with you. So basically I would turn up in a new city on a monday and stay in a hostel do daygame and meet couchsurfers and have a private room booked for the weekend. This was mainly on my R & R vacations while I worked in Iraq and so after a period in Iraq I kinda needed some female attention and it worked every time. Ones I didnt bang gave me awesome info on their city and took me to places I would never have known.

In Sydney I opened up my couch for the 1st time. Well I only rented a tiny room so I bought a blow up single air bed and slid it under my bed and when I had people round I slid it out. I have more girls stay with me in the 4 months I was there than nights alone. Even the landlord was asking if I was subletting the place out until I showed him the website.

Simple process, first time meet them be super nice and chilled out. Let them do there own thing but build a bit of comfort. Tell them the next night you are going to show them out on the town, even if it was a weeknight I would be getting them out on the 2nd night and usually we would have sex say about 50-60% of the girls who stayed. For me it usually happened on the 2nd night or second day of meeting them, only once did I bang a couchsurfer on the 1st day of meeting them and that was in Cebu, Philippines.

Usually girls 6-9 but defo some hot ones and defo some girls that I would not normally get with like Italian and Kuwaity Nationals.

On my R&Rs from Iraq because I really needed sex after so long in Iraq I would copy and paste the girls names from couchsurfing and put them into facebook to try and find them and see if they are single or not, does'nt always work but sometimes you could find their status,

Also putting down a maximum stay of letting them stay for 3 days would be a good option.

Post: #264

Im bumping this CS thread because it has the most replies. Im thinking of taking a bus to NYC this summer for a week or so and using CS to sleep and shower for cheap or free. I'm trying to do this trip to check the city out for my first time but while being as cheap as possible. I set up a profile last year with references from a few forum members but have never actually used the site.

Is there any way in hell I can crash on a girls couch or are the good ol CS days over?

How the l can I get a bang or 2 from CS girls if I'm sleeping on a guys couch? Am I gonna have to get a hotel room if they're down? I was gonna try and get some girls to show me around the city but I read its a cock fest and a struggle to even get that from them.

Will I have trouble even getting a couch? I'm worried that guys will be only letting pussy in and females will be picky as hell.


Just some newbie questions. Thanks guys.

Post: #265

(02-14-2014 04:57 PM)Screwston Wrote:  Im bumping this CS thread because it has the most replies. Im thinking of taking a bus to NYC this summer for a week or so and using CS to sleep and shower for cheap or free. I'm trying to do this trip to check the city out for my first time but while being as cheap as possible. I set up a profile last year with references from a few forum members but have never actually used the site.

Is there any way in hell I can crash on a girls couch or are the good ol CS days over?

How the l can I get a bang or 2 from CS girls if I'm sleeping on a guys couch? Am I gonna have to get a hotel room if they're down? I was gonna try and get some girls to show me around the city but I read its a cock fest and a struggle to even get that from them.

Will I have trouble even getting a couch? I'm worried that guys will be only letting pussy in and females will be picky as hell.


Just some newbie questions. Thanks guys.

I don't think it's worth the effort.

Couch surfing girls are rarely above a 6. You may bang a 6, but it will mostly be due to luck. If you find a girl worth banging (in terms of looks), she'll have a million other guys with the same mindset and plan of attack. The odds are severely stacked against you, no matter how good your game.

The exception may be if you find a good-looking bitch and tailor your messages to her very narrowly. But you may as well just pipeline on OkCupid if you want to make that kind of effort.

The alternative would be to pipeline anyway using whatever (perhaps including couch surfing), and stay at some guy's place or a random girl (whom you have no intention of banging). If you bring a bitch over to your host's place, you risk a neutral or negative rating, or anyway bad feelings between your host and you. He or she may put the foot down and threaten to put you out on the street. But if you don't care about your profile ratings (after all, you can just make another and get references de novo from forum members), it would be a good way to cut down on costs.

Another thing: there definitely are good-looking bitches on couch surfing, in NYC. Game them just like anyone else through pipelining, and get them out for gaming, probably during the day. Bitches on couch surfing are more cognizant of their being run game on by thirsty dudes, and are less trusting. So I think you'd find more success, or about as much, elsewhere (Tinder, OkCupid).

On finding a host in NYC: tailor your message to someone with specific interests. People in NYC are deluged with requests for unknown people to stay at their place for a while. If you have at least a few references from RVF members, you can do it, but it will take effort. If you send a request more than 2-3 weeks in advance, you run the risk of being canceled on come the arrival date.

Basically: I think you can use CS to get a free place to stay. Unless you get lucky (and you very well may), you'll pay for it another way, for example by a weak, feminist beta host draining your soul. I hope you have more luck.

Post: #266

Appreciate it Yeti. Ill be happy if my host is cool and shows me around. Ill just go explore alone if they aint. I can try to work my magic and fuck a girl in an alley or her apartment. Im not really strictly going there for pussy but more to meet future contacts and see everything.

Do hosts expect you to pay?
Do they usually give you a key and let you go in and out without restrictions? kind of worried ill get stuck with some square who tries to set a curfew.

Post: #267

(02-14-2014 10:00 PM)Screwston Wrote:  Appreciate it Yeti. Ill be happy if my host is cool and shows me around. Ill just go explore alone if they aint. I can try to work my magic and fuck a girl in an alley or her apartment. Im not really strictly going there for pussy but more to meet future contacts and see everything.

Do hosts expect you to pay?
Do they usually give you a key and let you go in and out without restrictions? kind of worried ill get stuck with some square who tries to set a curfew.

NYC hosts get more requests than probably anywhere in the world except maybe London. So they have a choice over anyone they want. It'll probably be tough to get hosted as a guy there, esp Manhattan since hosts there have the option of hosting girls 24/7. As for getting hosted by a girl, you can send some requests and see what happens. Nobody can tell you what will or will not happen. YMMV. Generally speaking though, I'd highly advise against trying to bring a girl back to your host's place. That's completely disrespectful unless the person has made it clear beforehand that they are cool with that. If you are trying to hook up with girls in NYC, then just rent something off Airbnb or save up a few extra days and get a hotel. If you're trying to hook up with female CS hosts as others have said, why even bother? Girls aren't on there for that and you would have to be lucky in that she doesn't already have a boyfriend and that she's mutually attracted to you. And even still she may be biased against the idea sleeping with guys she hosts. There are better options. Use Tinder. The NYC guys in the forum say it's bursting at the seam with girls. At least those girls are actually looking to hookup. CS girls aren't for the most part.

So TLDR, get your own place and install Tinder, then start clicking like on hundreds of girls the second your plane lands and you get a data signal. Something will come through.

Post: #268

Great. I planned to just get a couch to crash on but I guess its gonna be a struggle just for that. Maybe ill pick an easier city if nobody is biting my request.

After looking at airnb, I see rooms going for crack motel prices on Queens and Brooklyn. I have to look at old threads but I think people said to hunt around there if you want Latinas.

Post: #269

Washington Heights (Manhattan) is good for Dominicans. Corona (Queens) is good for Mexicans and Colombians and it's cheaper.

For Latinas, I recommend daygame and Tinder in Corona. A lot of the DTF Latinas live in Queens generally, from what I've seen.

Post: #270

CS girls are usually pretty busted, especially hosts. Quality is piss poor in the states (hippie chicks) compared to abroad where you might meet some decent chicks.

Doubt you are gonna find any tour guides in NYC, unless you stand out. Could be money if you decide to host 1-2 nights in a high tourist area. And a heads up, don't be a douche and bring home other people if you are staying with a host. Rent a place via airbnb or get a hotel.

Use the CS meetups, although the US ones again have pretty bad quality. Always could meet a few cool bros though.

Post: #271

Agreed, couch surfing is more for meeting good guys. The girls are busted, at least in the States.

The problem is the guys are generally weak and effeminate. Couch surfing generally now suffers from a malaise from which it will not recover. It is already dead in terms of quality, though if you're desperate to find a free place to stay, it is still useful.

However, there still are high-quality hosts on couch surfing, hosts who take the time and effort to show you around and get to know you. I've become proficient in screening such hosts based on their profile. I couldn't put it into words exactly, I just know a good host when I see it. Like pornography. Perhaps one day I'll post a write-up somewhere on how to spot a good host on couch surfing. I wonder if there'd be any interest?

But as it relates to this thread, I think that, as a stranger in a new city, there are more effective and efficient ways to get laid than couch surfing, especially with higher-quality women. Nonetheless, as others previously in this thread attest, you can pull good European poon as a host if you have a good place in a good area, in a major tourist destination.

Two quick stories:
- a guy messaged me on couch surfing last spring, in NYC, saying that I looked cool and wanted to meet up. He was a friendly, positive guy and we got some food in Manhattan. Things seemed pretty cool and I was looking forward to keeping in touch. I dropped some wisdom though via text (on the benefits of certain varieties of poon) and he espoused some PC bullshit about how it was wrong to refer to women as such, and broke off contact with me. From my experience, even the cooler couch surfing guys are effeminate and PC like that.
- I spent some time in Asia in 2013, and used couch surfing to stay with hosts. It was bloody brilliant. I had a place to stay wherever I went. I even made out with and slept in one Chinese bitch's bed (no sex though). Couch surfing can still be awesome, particularly in the less touristy areas where people are more willing to host you and show you around, probably because they get less visitors. This is what couch surfing was like circa 2004-2009 or so, before it sunk into the mire of a loss of direction. There were plenty of healthy, fit women who actually were DTF, so long as banging was ancillary to being a good person and hosting fellow travelers. But I think that the utility derived out of banging was actually second, overall, to the general high-quality experience of meeting a stranger in a strange land and feeling welcome, like you belong. It was really an amazing site for that. As I said, such hosts and experiences are still out there, but you have to search hard - perhaps I'll write a guide on how to squeeze out what little utility remains on CS.

Post: #272

Was just reading the posts above regarding references. I only have references from girls so far. I think I need to get some CS people in friend's list and references who are guys.

I am pretty new to CS (about 8 months), but it has yielded results once so far. I have to say the girls (all Europeans) who had had a lot of previous CS experience were often cagey and sceptical and told me about hosts who said "Let's have sex." My success came from an unintiated guest. Sound advice from Mango44 there - give them space and be nonchalant on the first day.

Have never been hosted but I might try it, however, as others have noted, the order in which the hosts are displayed means you have to sift through tons of poor hosts. Any tips for improving this would be welcomed.

I will be staying with former guests while in Europe this year in central Paris, so on the whole CS has paid dividends for me in such a short time.

Post: #273

^ If you are getting hosted by the girl your'e trying to bang, good luck. That situation rarely happens unless she's fugly/desparate. Being the host is far more worth the time. I'd rather have a cool-dude host that probably has tons of girls in his circle.
(I went both routes in San Francisco, definitely had more luck when my host was a dude)
Although it's pretty funny when yr female host's friends all think you are banging her haha
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Post: #274

Bumping this rich resource to ask a question - how long do your guests stay on average? And do you ever leave them alone in the apartment? I am planning to host only on days when I'm not out for work, which are chunks of up to 3 days, never more. It's mostly because I'm afraid of theft (of my laptop, which is the only valuable - I don't see anyone trying to carry off a $50 Microwave).

Will hosting for no more than 3 days adversely affect my ability to get bangs? From what I've read, almost no one here gets the bang on the first day, but I have no idea how long girls are staying with you guys and what kind of a window you have for escalation.

Post: #275

3 nights is what I do as well as a max. You pregame online, and on the first, max second night its either deal sealed or busted.
I don't leave my guest keys, unless they have 20+ references (happened once so far), so I ask them to leave with me, and come back after I'm back. They are always cool with it (since I have it mentioned in the couch section).

Good hunting.