Post: #26

BULLSHIT!!!

I've made TONS of money using Facebook ads...TONS OF MONEY. Anyone who believes it doesn't work simply doesn't know what he/she is doing.

Post: #27

To you guys making money on Facebook, are you paying 50 cents or more per click?

Post: #28

Ok Im trying to break this down as goodas I can. Heres the thing.

If you are an american company and you buy likes from Indonesia or whatever.

Who the fuck cares if they are legit or not?

What are legit third world likes gonna do for your business?

Absolutely NOTHING.

Theyre not gonna buy your product.

So I dont see the big deal with fake third world likes. These likes are useless either way, legit or not.

But aside from that... you dont make money on facebook by buying likes.

Likes are pretty much Useless. I dont see why people and companies are so obsessed with getting likes.
The only way you can profit from likes is if you have likes in the country where you sell your product and those fans share your content and attract new visitors to your facebook page and ultimately to your service/product youre selling.

But this isnt how people make money on facebook. You make money by driving lasertargetted traffic to specific squeeze pages, have them opt-in for your email list and promote targetted offers.

And for this Facebook is VERY valuable since it allows you to target demographics, interests, hobbies.... and its the biggest social media platform with very high engagement. People spend tons of time on facebook and of course they click ads. Google lets you place ads in front of people who enter certain keywords. But facebook lets you place an ad only in front of (for example) single males, aged 25-29 who have recently travelled to country X and expressed interest in Y. Can you see how this is valuable in advertising?

Post: #29

(02-12-2014 05:17 AM)username Wrote:  To you guys making money on Facebook, are you paying 50 cents or more per click?

No. Anywhere from 0.01 - 0.08 per click.

Post: #30

I once really thought about paying facebook for advertising but then I thought that it is only logical that people who click to like my page are not really fans or followers from what I do. How can I make sure that the people that facebook sends my page as an advertising to are really interested in what I have to say? I just can't be sure of that and that's why I decided to not do it. After watching this video I am convinced that it was the right decision.

Post: #31

(02-12-2014 07:31 AM)travolta Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 05:17 AM)username Wrote:  To you guys making money on Facebook, are you paying 50 cents or more per click?

No. Anywhere from 0.01 - 0.08 per click.

what are you promoting? Not specifics of course, but just general. Those clicks are cheap as fuck. I'm paying way over a dollar on adwords.

Will be pushing MPB on FB after Valentines. They are not taking dating offers until after Valentines for some fucking reason.

Post: #32

youtube cheap facebook advertising

Post: #33

(02-12-2014 05:17 AM)username Wrote:  To you guys making money on Facebook, are you paying 50 cents or more per click?

If your targetting is dialed in try OCPM (Optimised CPM) to get the cheapest clicks.

We can usually get 20c clicks in competitive niches & Countries bidding OCPM e.g. Fashion, Diet.

Post: #34

(02-12-2014 05:20 AM)w00t Wrote:  What are legit third world likes gonna do for your business?

Social proof.

If you see a guy has 10,000 Twitter followers, you assume he's legit.

(Even though most people buy Twitter followers, I do not. I probably should.)

Same with FB. When you see a page has 10,000 likes, you think it must be legit.

So you get legit likes by buying fake likes.

I've considered buying likes for that very reason.

Post: #35

I bought 1,000 likes on fiverr for $5. I agree, it makes my facebook page, look more legit.

Post: #36

Most people are too dumb to ever check likes or followers. They'll see that 20,000 people liked some product and they'll think "wow, that must be good."

Had they taken two seconds to check, they would have seen that 19,999 of those were from Ahmed Fujuada and his third world friends.

I write fake reviews on Amazon, while my posts are high quality, its easy to tell that they are still fake. People don't check though. They see 25 5 star reviews and they think "wow, that must be a good book." A quick 10 second check would save them from buying trash.

Fake followers, likes, and reviews net you low hanging fruit.

Post: #37

I have something that I want to advertise via Facebook to a targeted audience; if any of you know the best way to do it and don't mind helping a guy out, please PM. You will have my gratitude.

Post: #38

(02-12-2014 06:26 PM)Masdinero Wrote:  I bought 1,000 likes on fiverr for $5. I agree, it makes my facebook page, look more legit.

Wow. That's about $50 to create a brand for yourself if you do it properly.

Post: #39

(02-12-2014 06:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 05:20 AM)w00t Wrote:  What are legit third world likes gonna do for your business?

Social proof.

If you see a guy has 10,000 Twitter followers, you assume he's legit.

(Even though most people buy Twitter followers, I do not. I probably should.)

Same with FB. When you see a page has 10,000 likes, you think it must be legit.

So you get legit likes by buying fake likes.

I've considered buying likes for that very reason.

Its more like negative social proof.
If anything it looks sketchy if people with obvious third world names are all over your fanpage. When someone clicks on the like button they can see that most likes come from Mumbai India or something like that. They wont bring in quality likes either, if they share your content they will only attract more worthless third world likes.

You can buy them for less than a cent per like via FB ads but they are really useless.

Post: #40

Facebook advertising is worthless? I make about a quarter of my income just running Facebook ads for clients. It's one of the most economic means of advertising PROVIDED you know what you're doing.

You have to understand that Facebook ads are a million miles away from a "hot buyer" than Keyword based ads. Most people don't realize this, and use Facebook for promoting stuff that a casual social surfer just isn't interested in. That's why direct external ads never work as well as ads for likes on a page. But most people don't have the patience for the latter.

What they don't understand is that advertising to sales is a long funnel, not an immediate effect. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that visual subscription like what Facebook offers will overshadow e-mail subscription in years to come.

I would not be bothered about Affiliate Marketing if it wasn't for Facebook ads. Just realize that they aren't to be used as keyword based ads. Keyword based ads are like a 100m sprint with a boring scenery around. Facebook ads, like a cross country, with a breathtaking one.

Post: #41

(02-12-2014 08:25 PM)w00t Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 06:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 05:20 AM)w00t Wrote:  What are legit third world likes gonna do for your business?

Social proof.

If you see a guy has 10,000 Twitter followers, you assume he's legit.

(Even though most people buy Twitter followers, I do not. I probably should.)

Same with FB. When you see a page has 10,000 likes, you think it must be legit.

So you get legit likes by buying fake likes.

I've considered buying likes for that very reason.

Its more like negative social proof.
If anything it looks sketchy if people with obvious third world names are all over your fanpage. When someone clicks on the like button they can see that most likes come from Mumbai India or something like that. They wont bring in quality likes either, if they share your content they will only attract more worthless third world likes.

You can buy them for less than a cent per like via FB ads but they are really useless.

How many people scan through a business's fans to check how legit it is? Most just see likes and assume credibility. It's not even a conscious thought.

Very few people are even aware that you can buy likes, and those who are aware won't hold it against any business, because we understand that's how the game is played.

Here's a question: How long until Google figures out how to penalize sites with bullshit SM followers? Will search engines and social networks adapt to penalize spam followers, in the same way that Panda crushed low-quality backlinks?

Post: #42

(02-12-2014 08:25 PM)w00t Wrote:  Its more like negative social proof.

I am sorry sir but you suffer from solipsism.

The vast majority of consumers do not check to see whether followers are legit.

You might.

But you are not the world, hence solipsism.

Post: #43

(02-13-2014 03:20 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 08:25 PM)w00t Wrote:  Its more like negative social proof.

I am sorry sir but you suffer from solipsism.

The vast majority of consumers do not check to see whether followers are legit.

You might.

But you are not the world, hence solipsism.

This is true.

However just to play it safe I'm adding a couple thousand with American names.

Post: #44

(02-13-2014 03:20 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 08:25 PM)w00t Wrote:  Its more like negative social proof.

I am sorry sir but you suffer from solipsism.

The vast majority of consumers do not check to see whether followers are legit.

You might.

But you are not the world, hence solipsism.

Lol what are you, a doctor?
Had several people come up to me and point out that the likes on my fanpage were obviously bought.

But go ahead and give it a try, might turn out different for you.

Post: #45

(02-13-2014 04:21 PM)w00t Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 03:20 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 08:25 PM)w00t Wrote:  Its more like negative social proof.

I am sorry sir but you suffer from solipsism.

The vast majority of consumers do not check to see whether followers are legit.

You might.

But you are not the world, hence solipsism.

Lol what are you, a doctor?
Had several people come up to me and point out that the likes on my fanpage were obviously bought.

But go ahead and give it a try, might turn out different for you.

Several pointed it out. Ok.

How many people viewed your page?

What market are you in? Obviously some are going to be more suspicious than others.

Got to play the percentages. Some may notice but the vast majority will only see the number and automatically think "This guy must be the real deal. Look at all the fans he has. I want in on that."

Post: #46

(02-10-2014 11:20 PM)tpiddy Wrote:  I work in online advertising, close to Facebook and saying FB advertising is worthless is just plan wrong.

Could you share some tips on making more effective FB campaigns?

Post: #47

I'm on Fiverr and see a lot of offers for "1000 Facebook likes", "1000 Twitter followers", etc for $5. On reading this, they're probably click farms too.

Post: #48

Are you guys actually uploading government ID to use FB? I set up an account just to create an ad, they locked me out of it after I placed the ad, and now they want scanned copies of my personal info. So much for that experiment. I don't even know how to delete my account now.

Post: #49

As I understand it, buying likes is basically just go the ball rolling. No one likes to be part of a failure and on the other hand the bandwagon effect is strong. Fake it until you make it goes for online reputation as well.

As for buying ads, obviously people are making money or I wouldn't see all those ads for muscle building supplements or dating sites (though they cracked down on that recently).

Post: #50

I've never really liked Facebook for personal use or even business. I have a few pages on niches I'm into and a few business pages but its all with fake personal profiles as I refuse to be a part of facebook.

I think Godaddy gave me like $100 in free advertising, used it saw no results and gave up after that. As others have mentioned I've heard of them doing some shady things as far as how their advertising is run, I've also heard many compalints about ads not being that targeted which I also found to be true myself