The moment two 6'4-ish white guys (and their shorter friend) can't throw a punch to defend themselves from a group of six or so black guys assaulting them...that's when you know you've smoked the peace pipe far too long. I'm all for civility, but to just stand there and not defend yourself? Then the bigger guy is on the ground and his thinner (but still very tall) friend just stands there and does nothing, even walks away and lets them keep beating his friend. Man...that takes a serious lack of cojones. 6 on 3 is bad odds, but you know what's worse odds? 6 on 0. These guys' strategy was to smash their faces and rib cages into the other guys' fists, lol. I wouldn't want to have any of these hippies around me when stuff like this happens. I hope they're all right, but they've got to grow a pair.

Sometimes it's better not to escalate the situation, especially when you're outnumbered.

Hold on to your 'red pill' but if you wind up in a permanently damaged state or dead what use is it?

It's easy to start a fight and win when you outnumber your opponents. If that hood-savage that started it was alone, he'd have kept his mouth shut and walked.

The white guys didn't want to fight at all, and they knew the odds were against them. Stepping in to save a friend might have just made it far worse for all three of them and resulted in a fatality or two. It's easy to think that in their shoes you'd accept a few more punches to help out a friend, but in real life you'd be frozen in fear.

The lesson here is... carry a gun.

If you don't have a gun, and you can't run, throw the first punch and knock the fucker out. Strike the shepard and the sheep will scatter.

(02-02-2014 01:44 AM)draguer Wrote:  Sometimes it's better not to escalate the situation, especially when you're outnumbered.

Hold on to your 'red pill' but if you wind up in a permanently damaged state or dead what use is it?

The hippy on the floor might have been permanently damaged. They wailed on him while he was down and defenseless. In this situation, fighting back isn't an escalation, there's nothing to escalate, it was already a fight. The only thing to do is defend yourself or leave your fate to your attacker's mercy or lack thereof. That's the route these guys took.

(02-02-2014 02:03 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 01:44 AM)draguer Wrote:  Sometimes it's better not to escalate the situation, especially when you're outnumbered.

Hold on to your 'red pill' but if you wind up in a permanently damaged state or dead what use is it?

The hippy on the floor might have been permanently damaged. They wailed on him while he was down and defenseless. In this situation, fighting back isn't an escalation, there's nothing to escalate, it was already a fight. The only thing to do is defend yourself or leave your fate to your attacker's mercy or lack thereof. That's the route these guys took.

He should have helped his buddy get up, then they both should have just ran.

Live to be red pill another day.

White people take a big L on this.

(02-02-2014 01:57 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  It's easy to start a fight and win when you outnumber your opponents. If that hood-savage that started it was alone, he'd have kept his mouth shut and walked.

The white guys didn't want to fight at all, and they knew the odds were against them. Stepping in to save a friend might have just made it far worse for all three of them and resulted in a fatality or two. It's easy to think that in their shoes you'd accept a few more punches to help out a friend, but in real life you'd be frozen in fear.

The lesson here is... carry a gun.

If you don't have a gun, and you can't run, throw the first punch and knock the fucker out. Strike the shepard and the sheep will scatter.

I've been in this situation, and I was not frozen in fear. My rule is to strike first. If someone gets up in my face and starts making threats, I hit first. If there's going to be a fight, I'm striking first, no point in giving my opponent an advantage.

I had a guy in Mexico come up to me as I was eating a torta. Guy goes, "Te voy a matar (I'm going to kill you)." I dropped my torta and jabbed him in the face. He steps back, bloodied, stunned. His buddies, about 4 of them (so 5 total), come at me and surround me. They're smaller than me (I'm 6 ft, 2" with boots), so none of them wants to close. They encircled me, then one would rush in, take a kick at me, retreat, then another would do the same, from another direction. Meanwhile, my buddy, seeing what's happening, and with his torta in his other hand, rushes up to one of them and lands his left fist (he's left handed). That guy and my friend exchange, while the other four keep encircling me, taking kicks at me, then retreating, with none of them wanting to close with me. I kept jabbing/kicking, and retreating, jabbing and retreating, until my buddy and I made it back to the night club door and stepped inside. Bouncers blocked the group outside.

So I left the first fellow bloodied, my buddy connected solidly with another fellow, and both my buddy and I were perfectly fine. We kept on having fun the rest of the night at the club. Sometimes when people go looking for trouble, they'll find it. They'll think twice next time they try to assault some Americans.

Also, note, this was about 10 years ago before the cartels started their chaos. I would not even think of going to a Mexican border-town, at all, at this point in time.

I've been in other fights as well, and I've never hit the ground. I had my lip split in one fight, but I still never hit the ground, and if I did, I'd do my best to get back up. I'd take a beatdown before walking away while a friend of mine is getting beat down. I couldn't show weakness like that, how would I face my friend the next day? No way, that's not how my friends and I roll. What these guys did was a violation of the bro code.

(02-02-2014 02:31 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  how would I face my friend the next day? No way, that's not how my friends and I roll. What all three of these guys did was a violation of the bro code.

I agree. But once you can get your buddy on his feat, my point is that it isn't worth it to continue if you are out numbered. Running is a smart move, once your buddy can run as well.

(02-02-2014 02:29 AM)dads Wrote:  White people take a big L on this.

What's an L?

(02-02-2014 02:34 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 02:31 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  how would I face my friend the next day? No way, that's not how my friends and I roll. What all three of these guys did was a violation of the bro code.

I agree. But once you can get your buddy on his feat, my point is that it isn't worth it to continue if you are out numbered. Running is a smart move, once your buddy can run as well.

Yeah...a fighting retreat could be an option as well. That's what my buddy and I did in Mexico that time.

(02-02-2014 02:37 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 02:29 AM)dads Wrote:  White people take a big L on this.

What's an L?

I think he means Big L, the rapper.

This has nothing to do with being blue pill or red pill. This is just a big group of dudes that can't fight for shit. Just so happens the two Grizzly Adams mofos don't know how to defend themselves.

Drop one of these guys and watch the rest of them cower

(02-02-2014 01:44 AM)draguer Wrote:  Sometimes it's better not to escalate the situation, especially when you're outnumbered.

Hold on to your 'red pill' but if you wind up in a permanently damaged state or dead what use is it?

Those black dudes, who can't fight for shit, only got aggressive like that because they knew the dudes were punked. That dude with the long hair was big as fuck. Had he stepped up and shown aggression those black guys wouldnt have done shit. You may not want to escalate the situation, but you damn sure better stand your ground and not show fear or you're fucked. They were just as big of cowards, but got ballsy because there was no threat of violence towards them. Look at them jumping around and screaming to try to get pumped up. . They knew they had as many free shots as they wanted, with no repercussions.

The best way to get your face kicked in? Curl up on the ground and not fight back.

(02-02-2014 02:29 AM)dads Wrote:  White people take a big L on this.

Only SWPL white guys.

(02-02-2014 02:53 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 01:44 AM)draguer Wrote:  Sometimes it's better not to escalate the situation, especially when you're outnumbered.

Hold on to your 'red pill' but if you wind up in a permanently damaged state or dead what use is it?

Those black dudes, who can't fight for shit, only got aggressive like that because they knew the dudes were punked. That dude with the long hair was big as fuck. Had he stepped up and shown aggression those black guys wouldnt have done shit. You may not want to escalate the situation, but you damn sure better stand your ground and not show fear or you're fucked. They were just as big of cowards, but got ballsy because there was no threat of violence towards them. Look at them jumping around and screaming to try to get pumped up. . They knew they had as many free shots as they wanted, with no repercussions.

The best way to get your face kicked in? Curl up on the ground and not fight back.

I should have written a bit more on that. My main point was that this isn't really a red/blue pill issue and the key point is to act appropriately to the situation. Once the real aggression starts I agree you gotta meet force with force but if I can avoid it escalating I will. You never know what any of the guys could be packing.

When the guy was on the ground any friend of honor should have had his back.

(02-02-2014 02:53 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 01:44 AM)draguer Wrote:  Sometimes it's better not to escalate the situation, especially when you're outnumbered.

Hold on to your 'red pill' but if you wind up in a permanently damaged state or dead what use is it?

Those black dudes, who can't fight for shit, only got aggressive like that because they knew the dudes were punked. That dude with the long hair was big as fuck. Had he stepped up and shown aggression those black guys wouldnt have done shit. You may not want to escalate the situation, but you damn sure better stand your ground and not show fear or you're fucked. They were just as big of cowards, but got ballsy because there was no threat of violence towards them. Look at them jumping around and screaming to try to get pumped up. . They knew they had as many free shots as they wanted, with no repercussions.

The best way to get your face kicked in? Curl up on the ground and not fight back.

This. Exactly. They smelled the fear and lack of group cohesion. It was like a dog smelling a bitch in heat, and they attacked.

I'll be anyone here anything that those two white dorks thought George Zimmerman was guilty.

Their pussiness and self-hatred cost them their health and safety.

They learned a valuable lesson about The Street and modern race relations. When young blacks circle a white, they have hate crimes on their mind.

Whether the lesson will sink in (or whether they will remain self-hating whites like Matty Yglesias) remains to be seen.

I'm one of the guys who hates seeing the racist bullshit on the manosphere and the forum.

But the reality (red pill) is what it is. Young black males are not particularly fond of white people these days. It's fool hardy to not proceed under the assumption that a group of black males approaching a white man is anything but an invitation for disaster.

Strike hard, strike fast, strike with violence and ruthlessness.

(02-02-2014 03:12 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  I'll be anyone here anything that those two white dorks thought George Zimmerman was guilty.

Whether the lesson will sink in (or whether they will remain self-hating whites like Matty Yglesias) remains to be seen.

I dont think this has anything to do with race, it happens when two social classes collide too. In here if you go to the rural parts of the country and mention youre from the capital youre fucked.

Also in high schools parties nowadays when an outsider tries to get too close to a group someone always comes out and aggresively asks what do you want. Its human nature to be aggresive against outsiders.

Ive been in many situations like that, usually when im alone. The solution is not to show fear like someone in here said.
You walk past by a group who look like they might do something you meanmug the baddest looking guy they usually just nod back at you, someone yells something at you, you stop and ask him yo you got a problem?
If he says anything else challenge him to a 1 on 1.
They usually fold, if not their true nature will show once they start throwing wild haymakers and stepping backwards instead of coming towards you.

When it comes to violent situations the main priority is to get out, that includes getting your buddies out though. From secondary crime scene analysis the best reaction from the point the criminal tries to control you is violence.

You can't blame them because Austin is such a safe, white city. I mean this is all over the news. The minorities have been pushed to one side of town so I guess all hell breaks loose when they meet even though this fight was weak.

(02-02-2014 02:37 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 02:29 AM)dads Wrote:  White people take a big L on this.

What's an L?

A L is a Loss.

For example, if there's a video of you in New York doing something stupid. Then it would be an L for New York.

(02-02-2014 01:18 PM)Screwston Wrote:  You can't blame them because Austin is such a safe, white city. I mean this is all over the news. The minorities have been pushed to one side of town so I guess all hell breaks loose when they meet even though this fight was weak.

The dividing line is Interstate 35. This happened exactly one block to the East of the dividing line, on the poorer side. What happens is that people go downtown in Austin to drink, then after they are done drinking, they head to their cars. Some of their cars, due to a shortage of parking West of I 35 on some nights, are parked on the East Side (the poorer side). Predators know that people return to their cars at night, sometimes in small groups, or alone, and they loiter around the area, looking for a weak target to assault and rob. It is not too uncommon to return to your car on the East Side to see your vehicle's window smashed in. That said, during the day, the area is pretty safe. At night, because of the potential for easy victimization of intoxicated (or sometimes sober) bar patrons, these predators roam the area looking for easy prey. The group of three white guys were naive as to the environment they had just entered. "They brought words to a fistfight," so to speak.

However, I prefer not to make this about race. My intent in starting the thread was more to explore the stunning show of weakness on the side of the two tall white guys and their shorter friend. I used black/white simply as an easy way to distinguish who I was referring to in the description of events. The larger socioeconomic aspects of the matter are above my pay grade. That said, if you ever expect to be on the East Side of Austin at night, do what I do, either roll with friends, or if that's not possible, wear your steel toe boots and walk like you have a pair, lol. Those of you advocating carrying a gun...more power to you if it makes you feel more secure.

(02-02-2014 11:43 AM)dog24 Wrote:  I dont think this has anything to do with race...

So do you think that every day in every major American city roving groups of white and Asian teenagers randomly assault black people, steal their wallets and stomp them into the ground? I've literally never seen that once, while the internet is full of videos of black teenagers pulling this exact same stunt against whites.

Honestly, imagine if the races in this video were reversed, and you had a group of whites laughing while they violently assaulted two non-resisting black guys. It would be all over the news as a hate crime.

It looks like these guys needed a Hero, lol. Perfect soundtrack to this fight!





Haha, the previous poster's right, where was this guy at??? At least Kick-Ass would have given it an honest effort, lol!

I meant i dont think this kind of stuff only happens when african american males see beta white chodes. It happens when a group of guys no matter what race go around town looking for trouble with weaker groups.

If you look weak someone is gonna pick on you, white/black/asian doesnt matter, this wouldnt had happened if those guys were just regular white guys, they were probably looking to the ground after they made accidental eye contact with the other groups of guys. You can tell by their body language that they stood no chance.

No one likes to geat beat up, ive even heard pro fighters say they dont enjoy getting hit in the face, when people go around looking for fights what they actually mean is i want to fight a weaker guy who is probably not gonna land a single punch at me and it will make me look a boss in the end.

All it takes for those cowards not to mess with you is not look and act like a target.

But i do see your point about problems on the african american community in the united states, i guess i can say the same about poor communities in my country who beat up rich guys walking alone at night out of resentment, or rich guys who go out in packs looking for a hobo to beat up for god knows what reason.