Post: #1

I have been avoiding going out a lot. At first I thought it was fear, but my last few runs I have had no fear. The interactions aren't really painful, but I just don't care about them.

When I ask myself what I want, I just don't know. At heart I think I want a relationship, but when I think it out, I don't see any way for it to work. I don' want her around a lot, I don't want drama, and I don't really want a mental connection, I want to be free. And with that said, if it's just for a lay or two, then done, I'm not sure I want to put in the work.

I want women, I just don't know exactly what. Sex is a given, but the drive to approach just isn't there. I got other shit I'd rather be doing and I don't see how some chick will make it any better.


Every time I go out I always have conflicting thought, o I really want to?". I believe that if I don't go out, then when the time comes when I really want the skill, I won't have it and will feel more misery than ever. But again, right now, I just don't care.


Any thoughts, open discussion?

Post: #2

It sounds like you need to get your t levels checked.

Post: #3

How often do you masturbate to orgasm?

Post: #4

Low testosterone = low drive for socializing and approaching

I knew guys like you. They would like to fuck girls, but the process of gaming a girl is just too much spent energy for them. Take Zink, Vitamin D and work out. Check your hormone levels. Set some goals in life and don't be apathetic.

Post: #5

(01-15-2014 07:17 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  How often do you masturbate to orgasm?

Like 4-5 a day

Post: #6

(01-15-2014 07:38 AM)Mr. Plow Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 07:17 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  How often do you masturbate to orgasm?

Like 4-5 a day

Go on a no fap. Join a competitive sport and force yourself to go at it hard.

You'll see results within a month (at the most).

Post: #7

(01-15-2014 07:41 AM)Sharkie Wrote:  Go on a no fap. Join a competitive sport and force yourself to go at it hard.

You'll see results within a month (at the most).

Haha, the funny thing is that I am more likely to listen to you than myself when I say the same thing. I'll think about it.


I have wondered about the testosterone thing. Had some issues with healing in the hands, and forearms over the past few months. I'll have to call my doctor.

Post: #8

My advice take a couple of weeks/however long you need to sort your "inner game" out. Don't even think of going out/trying to pull. Just sort yourself out mentally, buy some new clothes, read books, workout get a new hobby anything to get your mind to reset. I also second the point about nofap or just cut it down to 1-2 times a week(not using pornography as well). When you feel like your ready jump back into it but keep up the hobbies/nofap etc. to try and avoid going back into a rut.

Also if you want to try and get a positive outlook read some of gio's posts about it he has some brilliant advice about getting into a good positive routine.

Post: #9

You jerk off half a dozen times a day and wonder why you don't want to go out and talk to women?

Post: #10

(01-15-2014 07:50 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  You jerk off half a dozen times a day and wonder why you don't want to go out and talk to women?

You'll need some $$$ to cross the bridge.

Post: #11

(01-15-2014 07:38 AM)Mr. Plow Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 07:17 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  How often do you masturbate to orgasm?

Like 4-5 a day

F*ck me mate, it's a wonder it's not fallen off!

Without doubt, frequent and excessive masturbation is the root cause of your problem(s). Quit that and everything will become clear.

Post: #12

Do I smell troll or should I go wash my fingers again?

Post: #13

Motivation comes from success! If you don't succeed at something for a while - you lose motivation!
I recommended a trip to SEA!

Post: #14

If this isn't a troll. Holy f*ck.
4 -5 times a day?!
That will fuck your life up. From no motivation, to not being turned on by real sex, not to mention wasting a shit load of time every day! And yes. Wanking is wasting time, even if it only took you 10 minutes a pop. Which i bet it doesn't.

Post: #15

Try not masturbating for a week, reading a book, working out (or playing a sport) & eating better.

You will see changes in your "drive".

Post: #16

If you jerk off 4-5 times a day I highly doubt you have low test.

Post: #17

(01-15-2014 11:44 AM)BlurredLines Wrote:  even if it only took you 10 minutes a pop. Which i bet it doesn't.

Which way is your money going, higher or lower?

Post: #18

(01-15-2014 07:50 AM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  My advice take a couple of weeks/however long you need to sort your "inner game" out. Don't even think of going out/trying to pull. Just sort yourself out mentally, buy some new clothes, read books, workout get a new hobby anything to get your mind to reset. I also second the point about nofap or just cut it down to 1-2 times a week(not using pornography as well). When you feel like your ready jump back into it but keep up the hobbies/nofap etc. to try and avoid going back into a rut.

Also if you want to try and get a positive outlook read some of gio's posts about it he has some brilliant advice about getting into a good positive routine.

do you mind linking some of gio's posts?

Post: #19

Subtle troll

Post: #20

You have to find another things to do. Your mind is stopping working, so you have to watch yourself out.

So, try to take some art martial classes, gym, dancing classes and so on. Try to make your time as busy as possible. I know that you do nothing because your are jerking off a lot.

Learn and experience new things. Travelling is a nice way to recover your batteries and enhance your point of view about everything. Doesn't matter if you want or not. You MUST get out of this situation and doing the same thing everyday will just drown deeper.

Your problem is not your game, but is yourself. Do things that will enhance your life so you feel as a better man and will feel the desire of making out with all pussies you see.

Hope it helped.

Post: #21

Fapping is clearly the problem. If its something underlying, you def have to quit for a week to make sure.

Your brain and body think you smash 4-5 tens a day (or 1000s when browsing), without any of the confidence or satisfaction on banging real girls.

I had a girl visit a week ago and we were banging 4 times a day for three days. I was basically offered up an attractive layup a few days after and just didnt care, literally didnt even want to fuck.

If you cant or never have banged attractive girls anything close to the girls youmfap to, and prefer to fap, well that is another discussion.

I also agree with the_ox, you are just jerking because you're bored, making even that activity much less fun. You've essentially hijacked your brains reward center, its truly an addiction.

Post: #22

(01-15-2014 12:46 PM)roberto Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 11:44 AM)BlurredLines Wrote:  even if it only took you 10 minutes a pop. Which i bet it doesn't.

Which way is your money going, higher or lower?

Higher. Way higher. This is pro level strangling.
If you can find the time 4-5 times a day then you can't have much going on. Fuck i didn't even work it more than a few times a day at uni where i had nothing to do except hit on the hot girl down the corridor. This was when broadband and streaming porn had literally just started to arrive in the uk. Man those were good days. After spending years watching dial up reveal titties pixel line by pixel line...

Post: #23

(01-15-2014 12:59 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  Subtle troll

Haven't read all the posts, but it makes me smile when people say troll. No trollin here, but in hindsight, I probably should have not told anyone.

Even when I had a girl with sex 2-3 times day, I was 2-3 times a day bating.

Post: #24

Basically, your issues come from frequent masturbation. Cut back on it and you'll be fine. The tightest game I've ever had was after not masturbating for 4-5 weeks.

Post: #25

Pick 1 day a week to beat it. Maybe sunday for example.

That way when you go out on the weekend, you'll have almost a week of pent up sexual energy that will likely motivate you to hit on women and try to get laid.

…Then if you don't get laid that weekend, you can jerk off a half-dozen times on sunday.