Post: #51

Women have been doing this for years i.e. seeing men gathering in all male groups then wanting to join them groups, infiltrating them groups and then by them being there changing the whole dynamic of the group in so changing it to suit them. Anyway as long as we keep things the same on RVF it shouldn't be a problem
However I don't really have a problem with women being "red pill" or going back to traditional values, would love to see a woman version of RVF however you'd probably have to majorly moderate as there'd be thousands of thirsty simps on there liking comments and giving rep points to them haha.

Post: #52

(01-14-2014 12:01 AM)Daddy Wrote:  I think we need to give those kind of women a chance. We need to think strategically.

There's a critical factor that we must not forget: pussy whipped male feminists don't listen to us. They only listen to women. So if a vagina tells them that feminism is bad, they will start to believe it. Let's not forget that feminism is largely enabled by those male feminists, and without them feminism is over. If we can turn enough women on our side, that's a real great progress.

I see you point but disagree. Women have no place in this male space. And they can't help it: On a primal a level a man with his shit together, who sees thru shit-tests and is indifferent to rejection undermines her role as sexual chooser.

IME, I came to manosphere after simping hard on 4-5's for years and being dissatisfied with my career. Every told me I'll find "the one" and if I work really, really hard I get a lateral promotion. heh

If you find the red pill on your own you'll so much more committed to self-improvement, it's like earning $$$ being self-employed vs being born into an inheritance/poor person winning the lotto.

Or to paraphrase Eugene Debs, if a woman can lead men to the manosphere, they can surely be lead out by another one.

Post: #53

A red pill writer by the name of Aurini stole one of these red pill wife bloggers from her husband and kids. She and Aurini aren't together anymore though.

I don't really blame him, but it's funny how screwed up these red pill women can get from the attention.

Post: #54

If a woman did join a group is there a way to stop her from changing the group dynamics, if you could not ban her?

Post: #55

(01-17-2014 09:53 PM)ghostdog Wrote:  A red pill writer by the name of Aurini stole one of these red pill wife bloggers from her husband and kids. She and Aurini aren't together anymore though.

I don't really blame him, but it's funny how screwed up these red pill women can get from the attention.

This raises a good point. At bottom, how different is a "Red Pill Woman" from any other woman? The answer: her nature is exactly the same as other women's nature, but a "Red Pill Woman" is much more likely to be aware of it. The "red pill" is nothing more than an understanding of the reality of women's nature. A "Red Pill Woman," therefore, is not any less hypergamous, slutty, deceptive, or hamster-driven than any other woman. She is merely more inclined to see or acknowledge those traits in herself.

For this reason, there is no advantage to associating with "red pill" women. The rules of the game do not change.

Post: #56

(01-17-2014 02:05 PM)Frost Wrote:  Places like r/The RedPill and Athol Kay's site just show how much work the average guy has to do to get to a point that we consider "not a complete loser."

Yes. Agreed. I post on both. Internally I've changed a lot. Both this forum and Athol Kay's have really helped me out.

(01-17-2014 09:53 PM)ghostdog Wrote:  A red pill writer by the name of Aurini stole one of these red pill wife bloggers from her husband and kids. She and Aurini aren't together anymore though.

I don't really blame him, but it's funny how screwed up these red pill women can get from the attention.

Mind sharing a link or something? This sounds pretty wild & weird. I'd be curious to read up on it.

(01-17-2014 02:05 PM)Frost Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 03:12 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  As many have pointed out, we can't have it both ways. We can't endless complain that all women are feminist cunts and then the minute a few women start saying, "you know, there might be something to this red pill stuff" and then we say "ATTENTION SEEKING WHORES GONNA DESTROY US ALL!!!!" the next.

It's called hypocrisy.

I don't think anyone is shitting on the girls who are flying the Red Pill flag. It's healthy for them, and it's a good sign of how good a job we're doing at creating a high-value community.

The problem is when men start to give "Red Pill Women" more attention than they deserve. But as I said before, it's not really a problem because it helps us identify the thirsty internet Alphas who will trade their dignity for some female e-attention.

The appropriate response to the Red Pill Woman community is to be happy for them, and ignore them.

It seems like some guys here can't appreciate someone who isn't their enemy.

That said, I do agree with you when men start fawning over the red pill women and start e-fighting with each other for the woman's attention. That is absolutely damaging to the manosphere.

Post: #57

"Red pill" women should only be used for the PR factor, we shouldn't have them in the "inner party" for reasons mentioned earlier.

Post: #58

(01-18-2014 02:09 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 09:53 PM)ghostdog Wrote:  A red pill writer by the name of Aurini stole one of these red pill wife bloggers from her husband and kids. She and Aurini aren't together anymore though.

I don't really blame him, but it's funny how screwed up these red pill women can get from the attention.

Mind sharing a link or something? This sounds pretty wild & weird. I'd be curious to read up on it.

http://venturephilosophy.blogspot.ca/201...pants.html

The autistic woman who exposed him used to have a lot more information up( including pics of the kids) but took most of it down because she feels sorry for the woman.

The female in question was a generic housewife anti-feminist blogger talking about being a wife and mother. Her blog is gone now, but while it was up Aurini used to link to it on his website.

I'm not sure of the juicy details (like the nature of the marriage at the time when she and Aurini met, or if Aurini and the husband were friends) but the one certain thing is that the relationship did happen and end in time.

Post: #59

(01-17-2014 09:53 PM)ghostdog Wrote:  A red pill writer by the name of Aurini stole one of these red pill wife bloggers from her husband and kids. She and Aurini aren't together anymore though.

I don't really blame him, but it's funny how screwed up these red pill women can get from the attention.

That's interesting. How to wage war against male feminists? Steal their fucking girlfriends. Imagine all these menboobs websites having their girlfriends stolen by our community and then publicly showing it. That would be the best argument ever.

Post: #60

(01-18-2014 10:58 AM)Daddy Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 09:53 PM)ghostdog Wrote:  A red pill writer by the name of Aurini stole one of these red pill wife bloggers from her husband and kids. She and Aurini aren't together anymore though.

I don't really blame him, but it's funny how screwed up these red pill women can get from the attention.

That's interesting. How to wage war against male feminists? Steal their fucking girlfriends. Imagine all these menboobs websites having their girlfriends stolen by our community and then publicly showing it. That would be the best argument ever.

But.....their broads are generally fat and disgusting.

Anybody wants to jump on a grenade they get my props, but I won't be a kamakazi for this.

Is that beta?

Post: #61

Resurrecting this thread to rant:

One thing I've noticed in girls online who call themselves "red-pill" is their hate for players. Dig a little deeper into their past though, and what do you find?

You guessed it - players.

Of course, they'll say, "well, men get played by girls too!" Except most men have to LEARN and WORK to become a player, regardless of when they lived in history. That's not the case with girls.

Girls instead are enabled by modern socialism (feminism is just socialism for women). Thus, they are enabled by other men. So girls don't have to learn or work NEARLY as hard to play a guy. Relatively speaking, it's handed to them.

So, to the "red-pill" girls lurking who hate players:

Post: #62

The out-in-the-open RPW fad is just another avenue for chicks to attention whore. Nothing more.

You ever go on OKCupid and see a profile of a cute girl saying how she just loves to cook, wear dresses, be with her family, and wants to take care of a man? You ever message them and get a message back?

Broads know the score.

Thirst is amplified exponentially when a girl tries to show off how feminine, nurturing, reserved, and attentive to a "real man" she is

Addendum: Do you think Lauren Southern is sweet, meek, stay-at-home housewife material? She may push anti-feminism and ant-progressivism, but you can be sure as shit she's not practicing it.

The only thing you'll see real "red pill women" posting on the internet is pictures of their family.

Post: #63

(01-18-2014 01:00 AM)Glock Wrote:  

(01-17-2014 09:53 PM)ghostdog Wrote:  A red pill writer by the name of Aurini stole one of these red pill wife bloggers from her husband and kids. She and Aurini aren't together anymore though.

I don't really blame him, but it's funny how screwed up these red pill women can get from the attention.

This raises a good point. At bottom, how different is a "Red Pill Woman" from any other woman? The answer: her nature is exactly the same as other women's nature, but a "Red Pill Woman" is much more likely to be aware of it. The "red pill" is nothing more than an understanding of the reality of women's nature. A "Red Pill Woman," therefore, is not any less hypergamous, slutty, deceptive, or hamster-driven than any other woman. She is merely more inclined to see or acknowledge those traits in herself.

I think this post taps into a fundamental misunderstanding a lot of newer guys have about "Red Pill" and "the nature of women".

Those are just behaviors. Their true nature is very Darwinian in that their urge is to obtain the best genes and resources for their children. Take away children and replace it with "sexual freedom" and "mah career", and the female mind does a terrible job of adapting.

The difference I've found is that "red pill"women understand the emotional levers that drive them to be slutty and hamster driven, and instead will push those levers in ways that cause k-selected behaviors to emerge in their psyche.

There's a reason that most of the (very few) who actually are that way will stay virgins until they get married. They understand that sex with too many destroys their ability to form an emotional bond, and (sometime intuitively, other times consciously) understand that they want to use it to bond themselves to a worthy father.

One random important observation: the women who I would consider that way, do NOT wear it on their sleeve. The ones that do are just ones that are good at reading trends ahead of time, have recognized RPW as "edgy" and are capitalizing.


That said I don't support having them here. Even they WILL try to "tame" their men because it's in their best interests to not have their man wander off to create new spawn, diverting precious resources from their own children. Secondly having them around changes the tone of the men's social interactions. There's a reason that old-school Catholic education was gender segregated.

Post: #64

(03-25-2016 08:42 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  The only thing you'll see real "red pill women" posting on the internet is pictures of their family.

This. And pictures of any pets they may own.

Post: #65

In the UK, there seems to be two general social groups: all female and mostly male. You very rarely see a mostly female social group unless the man is a gay co-worker or a handbag for the women to status signal off.

I first saw this phenomenon during the 1990s when successful British schools for boys became co-ed but the corresponding successful schools for girls strictly remained for girls only. At work, where my profession is about 90% male (but women are over represented - especially attractive graduates), a female colleague preaches diversity and inclusion while forming cliques with other women as the mother hen while "networking" with higher status men - including the CEO.

One of the most interesting developments is that of the British Scouting movement. It was originally for boys who wanted to join the British Army for adventure across the Empire as missionaries, soldiers, district commissioners etc. Not to be outdone, Lord Baden-Powell's wife started the Girl Guides. Now girls are not to be excluded from the Scouts and have been joining for a number of years and this has shown an interesting thing: 71% of new members of the Scouts are female and it has become overtly gay friendly.

This happened in the PUA "industry" whereby women who received a guru's dick found themselves elevated to his position vis-à-vis single men seeking to learn Game - and cashed in accordingly. Some female PUA's became millionairesses and were feted by the mainstream media when normally PUAs are shamed.

I believe a certain pretty alt-right woman who has a you tube channel earned $50k from you tube last year.

Post: #66

All of the links to "red pill" women in Forney's OP are dead, which confirms his hypothesis of them being fakes in the first place.

Post: #67

I completely forgot about this thread. I am going to post it in the ridiculous thread (/thread-51246.html)about who is the godmother of the manosphere.