Post: #1

What's your take on going up to girls and just start dancing with them? When I was in college I wouldn't even think twice, but these days I'm not so sure. I got a feeling girls are more likely to blow you out hard these days if you try (i.e. a drink thrown in your face like what happened to my buddy a few weekends back). I haven't been to a club in a while (mostly bars where I'm at) and I'm suppose to go next weekend. Trying to figure out the whole club game thing again and I think dancing an integral part so I want to get that aspect nailed down in my mind before I go.

Post: #2

I presume you're talking about the old grab and grind, which is different from dance floor game proper.

I stopped doing this maybe three weeks into freshman year fall.

It's true that the blow-out rate is high, especially after a few weeks of college, much less "the real world"... but secondly, would you really want to bed the type of slore that falls for the grab n' grind?

Post: #3

My experience has been the exact opposite. Girls get angry/disappointed/upset if you don't grind on them on the dancefloor. It makes them think that I'm not interested. Some girls even bend down and stick their butts out at you as an invitation to grab them and grind on them. I've had multiple girls in a group all stick their butts out in this way basically hoping that you'll choose them to "dance with". I've also had situations where two girls will trade off grinding against another random guy and me as a way to pair up with who they want to.

Post: #4

(01-12-2014 02:49 AM)Kabal Wrote:  I presume you're talking about the old grab and grind, which is different from dance floor game proper.

I stopped doing this maybe three weeks into freshman year fall.

It's true that the blow-out rate is high, especially after a few weeks of college, much less "the real world"... but secondly, would you really want to bed the type of slore that falls for the grab n' grind?

Yeah exactly, I always think that its stupid to just grind a girl, because youre showing you dont have the confidence to speak to her and actually approach. Also even if you get a makeout, the blowout rate after that is really high.

Post: #5

If you dance energetically, and well enough, girls that want you will notice you and go out of their way to dance near you. If you can make it natural, as if you're just dancing with everyone, then grind away amigo. Better to tap them on the shoulder and comment on their dancing, then proceed to chat, flirt, and dance from there.

I'm guessing you mean grinding from behind though? I've seen this from time to time, but it seems weak to me. Firstly you're accepting her frame and staying in her comfort zone, girls will grind on dudes, girls, gay guys, and inanimate objects without care. If a Girl sticks her ass out in your direction I'd ignore her ass until she gets back up, then make the approach from the front and grind her that way. If you're an ass man you can spin her from the front so she's backing into you after. Atleast that way you're in charge.

Post: #6

Total frat move, bro.

WIA

Post: #7

Dance floor game.

Post: #8

Very easy to get labeled a creeper doing this. And, if women are into this, they will just back into you. In that case, all the work is done.

I've heard many big complaints, usually dealing with Indian guys in select Vegas clubs.

lowbudgetballer

Post: #9

I think this is one of those things you can only pull off like twice in a night.

If you keep doing it you'll get tagged as being "creepy."

Additionally, does this work outside the college realm?

I've actually never seen it done outside a campus bar.

Post: #10

"dance floor game" is only good when utterly wasted and in the last 30min that the club is open.
id strongly recommend against it otherwise.
Last resort plan, really, you have better odds doing pretty much anything else.

Add more cards to your game.

True players dont grind anything that moves on the floor.
Be a boss. Then, the birds will flock.

Post: #11

Yea it can definitely work, although like others have mentioned, really my only frame of reference is college.

With that said I think the key to this is to escalate and isolate quickly. So many guys fail to pull a girl they grinded on because they do the same dance for 15 minutes straight or they do a sloppy make out.

Approach a girl on the dance floor --> have fun with her-->escalate/kiss while employing push/pull--> take her off the dance floor and continue to build attraction, but more so comfort (to reference MM).

Edit: I agree with the above statement. Most players don't set foot on the dance floor and have no moves. Most guys who approach on the dance floor are to scared to actually open their mouth and say something.

Post: #12

ugh, grinding is dreadful...

I rather be actually flirting face 2 face than some random chicks ass on my dick. When chicks try to grind with me I just turn it into me slapping and/or biting their ass. Way I see it, "other than actually having sex, if were not going back and forth flirting then were just playing a little kid game"

Post: #13

the last 7-8 times I've been drunk in a large toronto or niagara falls club I have just opted for the grab and grind. it's messy and societally frowned upon but when you crunch the numbers it's no worse than any purportedly more optimal game.

whether a girl will dance with you or brush you off as "creepy" will largely depend on these two fixed, narrow factors: 1) her availability (whether she's down to being picked up by a rando at da club), 2) your looks. your dancing is just an embellishment.

Post: #14

I think it depends.

For me, I'd remember finding a girl in a smoking area (Can't smoke indoors in Ireland), approaching, talking to her for a few minutes then hearing "Killing in the Name" and bringing her into the dance floor. I start dancing, she follow suit. Then I spin her around and she begins to grind me, bends over . Turns around, I tell her to show me something interesting, out pops a pierced tit. Game on.

But going straight up and grinding will get you labelled. The girl will turn around and make you look like a bloody fool, probably every girl on the floor will notice you getting rejected. They are a dramatic bunch.

Post: #15

Grinding is normal in American hip-hop clubs. It's just a part of having a good time, no need to over think it. The guys who think about how "creepy" they'll look trying to grind are the guys who are usually posted on the wall holding their drinks and staring at everyone (which seems creepy when I think about it).

It goes one of three ways:

-You grab her, she doesn't want to dance, one of you walks away.
-You grab her, she dances with you, the song ends, one of you walks away.
-You grab her, dance, escalate.

Either way, I'm having a blast in the club. There are times when there's that one bitch who wants to cause a scene (never happened to me personally, but I've seen it with bitchy white chicks blowing up at white guys who were just trying to have fun), the best thing to do in that situation is roll off of it and find a girl with better energy. Don't waste time by having a confrontation with the bitchy girl, just move on. It's pretty easy to tell who's down to dance and who's not after awhile.

Girls in groups of 3 or more are the most difficult with the grab and grind, IME. They rather dance with each other, stand in a circle and be seen, and get guys to buy them drinks. If you're with a group and your numbers are close to theirs your chances are better if your friends jump in with you, otherwise you're going to have to run game to get one of them to dance. Bachelorette parties are the easiest groups to penetrate in any case. Don't hesitate if you see them; they actually came to party.

@Cyr... As far as confidence goes: In America, just being on the dance floor is a show of confidence. The average guy is avoiding the dance floor like the plague...and forget about grabbing a girl. Not unless he's good and liquored up. Grab and grind is riskier than a normal approach because of the instant physicality, but it's also more rewarding because of the instant physicality being as sexual as it is. Besides, on the dance floor my hearing is so fucked from the loud music, I can't hear shit. Especially some chick trying to respond to me in her soft feminine voice. There's a time and place for everything; the dance floor is not the place for approaching and speaking. It is the place for grinding and making out, however.

Post: #16

Know that there is a big difference between dance floor game, and just going up to girls and grinding behind them.

Grind game = lucky coincidences of success
Dance floor game = constant, varied degrees of success

Post: #17

I agree with Zeus on this one. I am usually the only guy on the dancefloor literally surrounded by girls trying to get my attention, some even approaching. They brush off any guy who tries to walk up and talk to them on the dancefloor. You are supposed to be dancing/grinding, not standing next to a girl who is trying to dance. It makes you look out of place to be the only person not dancing/grinding. The guys that stare that don't even have the confidence to come on to the dance floor are even more pathetic. A girl may try to pull a guy reluctantly on to the dance floor, but when he retreats of embarrassment from stage fright, that girl is going to interact with the guys actually dancing/grinding on the dancefloor who aren't afraid.

Post: #18

Picking up chicks by grinding them is something we used to do in my early 20s (like circa 2000) when that was the norm and hiphop n rap were huge.

Now, I pick them up at the bar, talk and flirt, then take them to the dance floor. Dance for a bit, feel them up, go for the kiss. Escalate.

Maybe cause I'm older and wiser. Maybe the attitudes have changes as well. I don't see young people girding like we used to back in the day, unless it's a hip hop night, and then only a few ppl.

Post: #19

(01-12-2014 05:05 PM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  Yea it can definitely work, although like others have mentioned, really my only frame of reference is college.

With that said I think the key to this is to escalate and isolate quickly. So many guys fail to pull a girl they grinded on because they do the same dance for 15 minutes straight or they do a sloppy make out.

Approach a girl on the dance floor --> have fun with her-->escalate/kiss while employing push/pull--> take her off the dance floor and continue to build attraction, but more so comfort (to reference MM).

Edit: I agree with the above statement. Most players don't set foot on the dance floor and have no moves. Most guys who approach on the dance floor are to scared to actually open their mouth and say something.

(01-13-2014 11:44 AM)bodmon Wrote:  the last 7-8 times I've been drunk in a large toronto or niagara falls club I have just opted for the grab and grind. it's messy and societally frowned upon but when you crunch the numbers it's no worse than any purportedly more optimal game.

whether a girl will dance with you or brush you off as "creepy" will largely depend on these two fixed, narrow factors: 1) her availability (whether she's down to being picked up by a rando at da club), 2) your looks. your dancing is just an embellishment.

Maybe you could explain to me why I am always dancing, and having fun ( really, I mean I enjoy the music, and the dancing, I love it) on the floor, yet when I approach ( several times in the night, at least 5-6) I always get rejected? (except once or twice)
I think I know it: effectively, many girls on the floor are not down to be picked up by a rando ( notice that they usually always leave with the crowd they came with). But also the looks are the most important factor: I never see a not handsome guy leaving the club with a girl he obviously pulled that night, except really tall, good-looking guys etc. Most of the time they cannot dance for shit, it's the girl who is throwing herself at them. Personnally I am more of a 5, maybe 6 on good days, and only attract (if even) older skanks, or ugly girls. I precise I always roll solo.

I noticed I tend to be way more bold when I am drunk ( never fully drunk however, I don't like it much). Do you guys notice a higher level of success when you do dancefloor game while quite drunk?


PS: @Stasi
"If you dance energetically, and well enough, girls that want you will notice you and go out of their way to dance near you. If you can make it natural, as if you're just dancing with everyone, then grind away amigo. Better to tap them on the shoulder and comment on their dancing, then proceed to chat, flirt, and dance from there."

Yeah I noticed that they come dancing near me. But opening them ( tap on shoulder, smiling and talking, bumping into them etc etc) still fail. They stick to their friends.