Post: #1

Had a date with a girl that lasted for 2 hours.... She told me I have to work on my game - "I think I'm experienced with women, but there's still stuff I have to learn."

Anyone experience something similar? How did you react

Post: #2

Had this happen with a cute waitress one time during the pickup. She really wanted my boy instead and was trying to DHV herself by proving she could match wits with me and our other friend. She basically acted like a dude all night and then hit me with " your game isn't so fresh is it?"> Bitch what? "my game is tailored for actual feminine women, not some troll who try's to act like one of the guys to get to one of us". He got the digits and not much else. Girl had massive issues and walls built up around her. Not Worth THe Bang.

Most girls will let you continue granted your not being an actual jackass< throwing you a bone so to speak. Some are a little uncouth, no mannered, "elevator doesn't go all the way to the top" who just dont let some natural flow build up or sustain. eject most times.

Post: #3

Sometimes, nuclear weapons are best.

Nuke the hamster from low earth orbit.

"My game works best on feminine women."

"My game works best on non butch ladies."

It's the only way to be sure

Post: #4

But isn't good game optimized to work on both types of women? Why limit yourself

Post: #5

(12-18-2013 10:32 AM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  But isn't good game optimized to work on both types of women? Why limit yourself

It is and you have a degree of control in the equation as well with game.

But if a girl looks at you and your friend and picks your friend. It means in no uncertain terms that you are not high value enough for her.

It sucks I know. I've had it happen to me a million times and it is a blow to my ego. It means go back to square one and make yourself more valuable than the person you are with or consequently, more valuable than every dude in the room.

Post: #6

But that's not really game. That's LOOKS. In my case, I'm on a date and it's the game that held me back

Post: #7

Unless she pointed out an objective flaw of yours, like your stuttering, hunched shoulders, talking about politics, religion and exes or droning on and on without letting her talk, I don't think you need to worry. Most women say such stuff (especially if they explicitly mention "game") as a means of putting you down, not actual advice.

Of course, you should always be striving to become more interesting, a better conversationalist, to have a stronger body language, be bolder, etc.

Post: #8

(12-18-2013 10:32 AM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  But isn't good game optimized to work on both types of women? Why limit yourself

Wait, who wants those types of women?

I'll stick with the feminine, thank you very much.

Post: #9

You sure do need to work on your game.

Maybe your style game needs a bump. Perhaps you could be more witty and use words like erudite. Could be that your gym attendance is off. Bank roll could always be bigger. More control over your time should do winners.

You could be one of those guys that needs an encyclopedia of comebacks and tools to defang a she viper.

But lemme tell you where to start.

Never let what a chick says to you, fuck with your mind.

Your true strength in the game is your resolve.

While most of us talk about the tricks of the trade, tinder, what to text next, Colombians versus Brazilians

The foundation of game is your mind. Your mental strength, your will, your ability to push, that is the attraction force. Go through every thing we suggest, every part of the game suggested by anyone, it is about showing the strength of your mind.

Remember you will not break
Because you cannot be broken

WIA

Post: #10

I once got a speeding ticket and had to go to speeding class. One of the classes was taught by professional comedians. They said in class that they get a lot of their material by just day to day stuff they say that cracks up their friends or family of coworkers (those with day jobs). It becomes their material . They embellish it and so forth by the time it makes their act.

I'm going to do something similar for dates. When I make people laugh about something in my non dating life, I'm going to remember to tell that story on a date, with embellishment.
It will be good to have an inventory of funny stories to tell.

The other night I was cooking pork chops and the smoke alarm went off which sounded like the burglar alarm, and my neighbor pounded on my door holding a glock pistol in his hand. I told the story to my coworkers and they were all laughing their asses off.

I'm sure 3 years from now I'll be on a first date telling a girl I was making pork chops "last night" so my neighbor pounded on my door with a 9 mm glock...

Beats talking about work, family, religion..,

Post: #11

You need to re-evaluate your game if one-off subpar encounters with girls make you re-evaluate your game.

Sure, if you start seeing a pattern across contiguous encounters, then perhaps you've identified a weakness, but otherwise, you should shrug off individual occurrences.

I've had a smokeshow Taiwanese girl yell "YOUR CHINESE SUCKS" in my face in Myst, even though I'm conversationally fluent and am sometimes mistaken for a Taiwanese native speaker.

Who cares? I've banged numerous girls as attractive or more attractive than her. Ended up pulling one of her countrywomen the next night at another club.

I've had a smokeshow Vietnamese girl throw a tantrum on the street and scream at me because I refused to escort her back to her parents' across the city and drop her off, after the night was killed because she wouldn't come up to my apartment.

Who cares? I've banged numerous girls as attractive or more attractive than her. Smashed six of her countrywomen on that trip.

etc. etc.

Post: #12

Ha, yes. I went on a date a month back where midway through the girl revealed:

- She had a kid with an "asshole" ex
- She hated all previous ex's
- She was on prescription psychiatric medication
- She felt "triggered" when I gave her a hug
- She wasn't to have sex at this time in her life
- She just wanted to be friends and take value

I made the mistake of taking her on a car ride to a cool event. HOLY SHIT that was a LONG car ride home.

Girl was 9-10 range in looks. I later realized I got pussy goggles, pedestalized her because of our shared interests, and overlooked the obvious red flags. Never again.

The experience was a massive dose of reality, raised my standards, and taught me screen much harder.

Post: #13

(12-18-2013 12:32 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Never let what a chick says to you, fuck with your mind.

Your true strength in the game is your resolve.

While most of us talk about the tricks of the trade, tinder, what to text next, Colombians versus Brazilians

The foundation of game is your mind. Your mental strength, your will, your ability to push, that is the attraction force. Go through every thing we suggest, every part of the game suggested by anyone, it is about showing the strength of your mind.

Solid! WIA kills it yet again.

Post: #14

(12-18-2013 12:32 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  You sure do need to work on your game.

Maybe your style game needs a bump. Perhaps you could be more witty and use words like erudite. Could be that your gym attendance is off. Bank roll could always be bigger. More control over your time should do winners.

You could be one of those guys that needs an encyclopedia of comebacks and tools to defang a she viper.

WIA

^^^^THIS^^^^

There are many things under your belt that you have direct control over. Get a handle on them and try again. Come back later and see what has happened.

I get frustrated when guys throw out the "looks" card. You very much have control over your looks. Girls do not view men the same way men view girls. You can easily get some suits, a new hair do, and other things.

Work on yourself and the ladies will come even if it takes a long time.

Post: #15

No she commented favorably on my looks. And if she wasn't attracted to me I doubt she'd stay there two hours with me

Post: #16

(12-18-2013 03:47 PM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  No she commented favorably on my looks. And if she wasn't attracted to me I doubt she'd stay there two hours with me

Not true. You can easily have a two hour date with a girl who was not attracted to you. Hell I have had 2 hour dates with girls I was not that attracted to.

Post: #17

Op, how did she exactly tell you "you need to work on your game."

Post: #18

(12-18-2013 04:37 PM)Agent 47 Wrote:  Op, how did she exactly tell you "you need to work on your game."

She said just that lol. We got to talking about sex and I said I dont judge a woman based on when she has sex with a guy (1st date, 2nd date, etc). She said she thinks I do judge women based on this, but she didnt make a big deal about it.

Then when its tie to pay I suggest we split the chec and she said something about shes not used to doing that or whatever. Then I told her I know she realizes she is good looking and she could use guys if she wanted to. She got really offended and just let it all out... She referred back to the sex on the first date thing and she said she definitely agreed with me, but she said these are things I should not tell a girl. .

Overall, she basically said she thinks Im only interested in sex in women and "There is so much more a woman can offer" and she hates that I think that way.

I suppose the flaw in my game was... telling her how I actually think about women. Good game would have played the role, but I wasnt out for a 1st date bang, but Im sure I ruined my chances as she didnt kiss me and said I'll wait for her or some bullshit like that.

Post: #19

(12-18-2013 08:40 AM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  Had a date with a girl that lasted for 2 hours.... She told me I have to work on my game - "I think I'm experienced with women, but there's still stuff I have to learn."

Anyone experience something similar? How did you react

If a chick say something like that, either she is fucking HELLA dudes or she isn't fucking anyone and didn't know how to say she isn't interested.

Post: #20

(12-18-2013 04:21 PM)Menace Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 03:47 PM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  No she commented favorably on my looks. And if she wasn't attracted to me I doubt she'd stay there two hours with me

Not true. You can easily have a two hour date with a girl who was not attracted to you. Hell I have had 2 hour dates with girls I was not that attracted to.

Fuck having a two hour date with a chick I'm not attracted to. You should know within an 90 min if a woman is feeling you. You should actually be able to discover this in under an hour. If she is, get physical quickly so she know know what's up. I don't can't see wasting my time. If shit isn't going, get rid of her and find/call another prospect.

Post: #21

(12-18-2013 07:39 PM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  I suppose the flaw in my game was... telling her how I actually think about women. Good game would have played the role, but I wasnt out for a 1st date bang, but Im sure I ruined my chances as she didnt kiss me and said I'll wait for her or some bullshit like that.

I think your mistake was not telling her what you actually think, but being wooden and stiff about it. I regularly say much more sexist and red-pill things and only get laughter and a playful punch as a reaction.

Either way, I don't think any of these things actually ruined your chances. She jumped upon those things because she was not attracted to you from the start, not the opposite.

Post: #22

(12-18-2013 07:39 PM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 04:37 PM)Agent 47 Wrote:  Op, how did she exactly tell you "you need to work on your game."

She said just that lol. We got to talking about sex and I said I dont judge a woman based on when she has sex with a guy (1st date, 2nd date, etc). She said she thinks I do judge women based on this, but she didnt make a big deal about it.

I think those sorts of conversations about sex go a lot better AFTER you actually fuck the chick. Trying to bring up questions about a chick's sexual history is pointless because she will just lie.

Quote:Overall, she basically said she thinks Im only interested in sex in women and "There is so much more a woman can offer" and she hates that I think that way.

I suppose the flaw in my game was... telling her how I actually think about women. Good game would have played the role, but I wasnt out for a 1st date bang, but Im sure I ruined my chances as she didnt kiss me and said I'll wait for her or some bullshit like that.

I would suggest not taking chicks to restaurants unless you are already fucking her. And whether you are going to split the check is something you ought to discuss before the date, not when the check arrives. I guess the exception to this would be seeking arrangement game, where you are actively seeking gold diggers, taking them on nice dates, and fucking them.

So yeah, your game is off but not for the reasons the chick is saying.

Post: #23

This was at a bar. We only ordered one drink each.

And I told her this was a convo meant for after we had sex and she said something like she'd think I'm an asshole. I can't remember