Post: #1

Krauser mentioned it in his blog, and I've started looking out for these.

Example: She subtlely looks at me for a few milliseconds, she scratches her neck in my direction thrice, then I catch her with an eye fuck back that is even shorter. It's the subtlest game of ping pong. Then she walks over to borrow a chair, with a flirty smile.

But I'm sure I've missed most of the micro-IOIs. Hopefully you pros can fill me in on more.

Perhaps game was meant to be much, much more subtle. Perhaps this is how women make the first move.

Post: #2

Intuition and sub-communication. Her body language is vital to understanding the vibe in the same manner yours is in dictating the pace of the interaction.

The first one is when she places herself within your perimeter, if you don't approach immediately. She's making herself more available in order to appear easier on your radar.

During the interaction:

Her eyes follow your eyes going from one to another when you're speaking, you can see her desire.
She will open her legs in your direction if you're sitting opposite her or she will rub her one foot against the other.
Her face will flush when you turn the conversation sexual. Her breathing will become accentuated and deeper/slow down.
Her vocal tonality will change, from higher to lower as she feels hornier and she will slow down her talking.
She will mirror your movements e.g. you play with your straw and she will too.

These are small ones I have picked up in time but of course, I am also keen to find out more; I rely more on intuition most of the time and just assume attraction rather than actively seeking these out.

Post: #3

Listen to your gut. That is what we call intuition. I had an instance last night where this cute girl om the strain gave me a stare and i smiled back. Immediately she get nervous and looked around. Perfect opportunity to open.

Post: #4

honestly I feel like this may be reading into it a bit much.

Frenchie's right, always go with your gut

Post: #5

Following your gut or instinct is an interesting thought. It's true that following what it tells you is often true. Thing is, the more experienced you become, the stronger your instinct becomes.

Approach more and get more experience around and sexualizing women and the more often you will have gut feelings. These gut feelings may tell you when a girl is subtly interested, strongly interested, or wanting to fuck you.

It's why as you age as a player and get more experience you will become more accurate in your approaches. As you age and have stronger game you will approach less and pull more.

The most subtle attraction signals include a girl turning her head towards you when she notices you. It's a quick response and often times you see her turning her head towards you, making the most brief eye contact and turning back because she doesn't want to show too much interest/is shy.

Also, try to make eye contact with a girl who is having a conversation with someone. She will notice you looking at her and will look back at you even for a moment if she finds you attractive. Think of it this way, in reverse. If you are talking to someone, and you see from your periphery a fat, ugly girl looking at you, are you going to look at her and make eye contact? Probably not.

it means that the cute girl in conversation you're looking at also wouldn't look at you if she didn't find you attractive.

Post: #6

Before I became a day approacher, I used to think girls who would make eye contact and give me a little smile were just being nice. They do it to everyone. Now I realize its a girls way of approaching. They don't have balls like us so they don't (usually) walk up to you and start talking.

Now when a girl gives me a little look and a little smile, i assume she's essentially saying "approach me please" or "hey I think you're cute."

Post: #7

^^^

Supported by data too. Always when I approach a girl who gave me the subtlest of IOIs, I get a warm receptive response.

Post: #8

I grabbed a girls bicep during a date, joking about how strong her "guns" were and the waitress walking by dropped the dish she was carrying when she turned to look at us.

Post: #9

Unreliable as a general system.

Personal tics and tells aren't universal, ask anyone that plays poker.

WIA

Post: #10

Macro-IOS. "Please come over to my place tonight and bring some red wine, my flatmate is out".

Post: #11

(12-18-2013 03:23 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  Krauser mentioned it in his blog, and I've started looking out for these.

Example: She subtlely looks at me for a few milliseconds, she scratches her neck in my direction thrice, then I catch her with an eye fuck back that is even shorter. It's the subtlest game of ping pong. Then she walks over to borrow a chair, with a flirty smile.

But I'm sure I've missed most of the micro-IOIs. Hopefully you pros can fill me in on more.

Perhaps game was meant to be much, much more subtle. Perhaps this is how women make the first move.

This is the kind of girl who sits in starbucks for 39mins and calls it quits.

Tell her the time.

If she smiles, you got GAME!

Post: #12

Soft Signs include but are not limited to:

1. Looking downward after having had eye contact with a male she is sexually attracted to - a clear sign of submission among all primates.
2. Giggling is often sign of submissiveness.
3. Emotional or dramatic outbursts. In most cases, this is a clear sign of sexual arousal in a woman.
4. Impaired concentration and an increase in the unrelatedness of emotions within a sequence.
5. An increase in lower body movements which attract male attention.
6. Blushing.
7. Scratching of her wrists and inner arms.

Source - Practical Female Psychology for the Practical Man

Post: #13

You get a lot of this in SF where women are conditioned to not show a ton of interest. The most common is you glance at her and she does a hair flip and or runs fingers through hair. A girl with no interest notices but doesn't do anything.

Post: #14

Another thing about #5 BDawg is if a girl wear leggings with a long shirt , she will eventually roll it all the way up .

Post: #15

Why do they try and hide it?

After going to the gym today, I went to a supermarket and I must have been a bit pumped up or something. I had a little chat with the checkout girl about the weather and she smiled, blushed, and looked down. Then she wiped it off her face and tried to look serious. Then she looked at me again and smiled again.

I wish I could think of a smooth way to escalate the conversation with these cashiers when you're pressed for time and the store is busy. There just isn't time to ramble much.

Post: #16

Pretty much any kind of eye contact is enough of an IOI to warm up an approach.

You don't go down the street checking out ugly girls.

Post: #17

(12-19-2013 01:11 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Unreliable as a general system.

Personal tics and tells aren't universal, ask anyone that plays poker.

WIA

Agree. Besides you should approach like mad anyways. IOI is for sniper game or guys shooting for high quality in high value venues.

Also theres no guarantee of a successful bang even with IOI. And sometimes you bang even with no IOI.

For me, no IOD = IOI. Then its up to you whether its worth your energy to do the approach

Post: #18

i tend to disregard all iois as i think a lot girls will give them off even if they are or are not available. last night a girl was eye fucking me at the bar, i walk over and 3 secs later her bf comes back from the toilet.

Post: #19

Exactly. I notice I get more eye fucks from women who are with their bf's, sadly.

Post: #20

(08-31-2014 12:41 PM)Catch 22 Wrote:  Exactly. I notice I get more eye fucks from women who are with their bf's, sadly.

Or you with a broad.

Post: #21

(08-31-2014 12:41 PM)Catch 22 Wrote:  Exactly. I notice I get more eye fucks from women who are with their bf's, sadly.

I think it's because the stakes are so low. They know there's no way they're going home with you so they can eye fuck the shit out of you and nothing will happen. I also wonder sometimes if it's a way for them to figure out where they stand when they're starting to think about leaving their current guy.