Post: #51

By father is a beta in everyday, but when he gets pissed he can become surprisingly alpha. He never uses this offensively trough, never makes advances on other women, but if my mother gets him, he can turn on alpha mode and can put her in woman's place. This is probably the reason they are still together, the second reason being that my mother is a catholic and has more values than a typical woman.

Post: #52

Couple men who influenced my worldview. Definitely a case of Nature vs. Nuture....My stepdad (raised me) was a cool cat, older gentleman who did labor work during the day and ran a nightclub at night. Think for the most part he played it straight. Taught me the values of a hard day's work, how to shoot a gun, and financial responsibility. Best lesson I EVER learned. I do vividly remembering one night him coming home and my mom reading him his right over "lipstick on his collar". He gave some explanation about some drunk woman and helping her break her fall yada, yada, yada...I was mad young so who knows...

My biological pops was without a doubt a player. Never met him and he passed away when I was 4. He owned a taxi service, handsome guy but a promiscuous guy nonetheless. He fathered multiple kids out of wedlock while he was married. (me included). Handsome, dapper, Enterprising cat coming up in the Deep South in the 50's/60's guess I could see why. It wasn't until I learned his backstory and met several of my siblings (all older) that I realized that my personality, desires, ambitions and sexuality pre-destined. Eerily similar life experiences...Here I was all this time thinking I was an original, when in actuality he wrote the DNA blueprint to my current Lifestyle.

Post: #53

My father had a bad childhood, his mother was a whore, and he had no father himself(He moved around a lot, lived at the church at one point). Despite that he raised my brothers and I as best as he could. I never saw him cheat, and he didn't take bs from my mother, but she still divorced him after 14 years of marriage. He didn't spoil his kids, and gave us all a roof over our heads. He acts very Alpha, hell he scared off all of our neighbours growing up, heck he's just a scary guy, that Alpha mentality didn't pass down to me or my brothers though for whatever reason(beta-feminized public schooling?). Told me to fight back if someone tried to mess with me. He got my mother pregnant when they were both Seniors in High School. They got married right out of High School, and he took an assembly line job where he works to this day. He's told me a lot stories about there, lot of life lessons. One life lesson being, "the days of the golden watch are over". Companies are really cutting back financially basically, he said they used to award a watch or an award for working there 10+ years, but they don't get shit now. He could tell you who'd get fired too, slackers first to be layed off every year according to him.

That's part of the reason I'm terrified of getting a woman pregnant, I've seen too many men in my family start a family much too early and lose their freedom, our SMV rises as we get older, it'd be a waste to cash out so early.


Man did she fuck him over financially, he's the reason I'm working so hard. I want to have enough income to send him over seas, cause he won't find another wife here. He's been working too long, I'd like for him to relax and enjoy life (He says he wants to work till he dies, he said retired people die sooner).

I tried to explain how women really are to him, but he won't listen, he's been completely blue pilled brainwash.

From what I know, no, he's not a player.

Post: #54

I think we need to remember that life use to be better for men in the 60s and 70s, women didn't have that independent mindset. They relied on men, so a good beta provider could always find a mate.
My pops is from the Caribbean, I won't go into details but the answer is yes.

Post: #55

My dad is a rather simple- almost a simpleton, so gullible he is!

No way he could have been a player, and I've had the bad habits passed down that I'm now getting rid of. But he did give his best in raising us siblings in every other way.

Post: #56

My dad was super beta. He was very judgemental and a hater. He had only been with one female in his life and got her through an arranged marriage. He had no game and would constantly cockblock me when I was younger because I didn't put my studies first. He wanted me to have no social life and focus on grades.

Post: #57

My mom and dad met when they were in high school. My mom was on a payphone fighting with her boyfriend - presumably a breakup - and got off the phone bawling her eyes out.

My dad walked up and said, "Looks like you need a new boyfriend." Apparently, it worked...

After he knocked my mom up he got hit with a statutory rape case for banging some young chick he was driving home from a party at their house. So sounds like a pregnant ole lady didn't slow him down much.

He spent most of my youth in prison, so any game he did have was not passed on to me, and he threw his life to drugs and alcohol, so by the time I got to know him he was pretty washed up. Even still he was always banging something after he got out (just nothing to write home about - washed up hags).

Our personalities are pretty similar though and sometimes when I hear of shit he did or said it reminds me a lot of myself. Genes are a trippy thing....

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #58

Yeah, my pops is as alpha as they come. Raised me to be like that, pretty sure he was/is a champ in game all my other uncles and such look up to him in that regard. But then again most of the adult males in my family are good at pick up.

Post: #59

My am the product of a brutal rape. He was never caught so I guess he had game.

My grandfathers had skills. Both enlisted in WWII, and one pulled a slick one and married a model in Hawaii. I guess it was just to get some tail, and he probably figured he'd not return, especially having to see the Arizona sitting at the bottom of the ocean, and having just happened.

My other grandpops became a widower for awhile, then dated a girl 30 years his junior. Game recognized. I'm a chip off the old block.

Post: #60

My Dad has zero game, but he's a handsome devil.

Post: #61

Let him tell it, he had Wilt Chamberlain numbers before 18. As far as I know there were only two girls: my mom, and the chick she thinks he was cheating on her with.

He's a former pro bodybuilder; he did give me solid genetics. The fucker.

Post: #62

My dad is a good looking guy but hopelessly blue pill and zero game. On top of that he's got small man syndrome and has anger issues.

He did his best to betatize me, I have no idea how we are related.

Everytime I've ever followed his "the safe smart thing to do" I've regretted it.

He resents me for living the life he never had the balls to live. By the time he was my age, he'd been divorce raped twice and those divorces were no doubt because of his betaness.

He was scared to be alone and has been married most of his adult life yet has always had affairs and carried on with side pieces.

It's weird, with those women I get the feeling he's alpha but with his wives, they walked all over him. I think that's a big part of his anger problems.

You cannot say anything that can even hint at criticism or he will lose his shit.

This makes talking about this issue impossible.

He has stepped up for me when it really mattered even if it was reluctantly but we have a horrible relationship, if you can even call it that.

My dad had all the potential in the world to be a record breaking badass, and a life of bitterness and regret is all he has.

He's made 2 good moves, one he got a great job early on, and 2, his last wife is loyal and even though controlling at times, really does look out for his best interests.

My brother is a carbon copy of him. I may as well not have a father or brother.

Post: #63

My father was/is one of those naturals that the GAME was written about. At 74 he can still get girls younger based on his personality. But women were of course more tolerable to deal with back then. Any guy with a degree and a decent job could get girls without game. If he had to grow up in todays world i think he wouldn't be as confidant. His lack of confidence would shine though and he be like most guys today. Just my 2 cents.But back in the old days before feminism guys were more manly.
When I watch old shows/movies the beta guys that they laugh at would be alpha in todays movies. We as a gender have really fallen

Post: #64

My dad was basically a PUA in everything but name back in the 70s and 80s. He says he slept with over 60 girls between college and law school but then he got married to my mom and quit the game as far as I know. Growing up, he seemed laid back, letting my mom run day to day shit in the house because he didn't want the aggravation. We hung out a lot when I was young(going to sports events, hiking, golfing, shit like that). However, he never taught me anything to do with women(I was a socially awkward with girls up until my sophomore year of college, only sleeping with the girl I went to senior prom with). I didn't even find out about his past until I had taken the red pill a couple years ago and asked him myself.

I changed but no thanks to him. He was always there for me when I was younger, but he coddled me(like most upper middle class white kids) and treated me like a kid until I went to college. He taught me a lot of shit(about history, sports, being hard working etc), but picking up women and being alpha(standing up for myself and not letting others tell me what to do) were not among them.

I have tried to get insight from him, but all he says is that he used "law school game", basically bragging about being at a top notch laws school and making a lot of money in the future, along with his charisma. Doesn't help me since I don't want to go to law school and charisma is something you have to work on on your own.