Post: #1

Based on the ROK post about hiding your power, from now on I think I am not disclosing I can cook so easily. I lead with it, I always like to brag about it, its one of my 'stories', but here is something I have found over the years, it sets you up for quick failure from overblown hamster expectations. When you don't deliver, the chicken is a tad off, some weird food preference is not known, or for whatever reason your bacon preference is offensive(more than 50% of the time it is), there are literally 1000's of reasons it can go wrong, and this goes for anyone you cook for, not just women you are dating.

I grew up cooking. Started in fast food at age 14, graduated to Denny's running a shift, ended up a sous chef in a high rated establishment by age 19, and I learned more about cooking than your average culinary grad. I always lead with it, talk about it, the first to volunteer for it when there is a kitchen. I love telling the story to women on dates, they get all starry eyed. They see me as a catch because of it. They all expect I will cook for them if we last more than a few dates. And out of all of the woman in my life, only one could cook well, and surprise surprise, shes not an American. And I really dont want one thinking I am their food savior because they chose not to watch momma in the kitchen as a child.

From what I have found it just builds too much expectation, needless pressure, too many variables and resentment arising from leading with this. My realization is that I will only cook for people I know well, or completely surprise someone exceptionally special. Maybe I am a little jaded from it....

Post: #2

(12-15-2013 11:17 PM)puckman Wrote:  Based on the ROK post about hiding your power, from now on I think I am not disclosing I can cook so easily. I lead with it, I always like to brag about it, its one of my 'stories', but here is something I have found over the years, it sets you up for quick failure from overblown hamster expectations. When you don't deliver, the chicken is a tad off, some weird food preference is not known, or for whatever reason your bacon preference is offensive(more than 50% of the time it is), there are literally 1000's of reasons it can go wrong, and this goes for anyone you cook for, not just women you are dating.

I grew up cooking. Started in fast food at age 14, graduated to Denny's running a shift, ended up a sous chef in a high rated establishment by age 19, and I learned more about cooking than your average culinary grad. I always lead with it, talk about it, the first to volunteer for it when there is a kitchen. I love telling the story to women on dates, they get all starry eyed. They see me as a catch because of it. They all expect I will cook for them if we last more than a few dates. And out of all of the woman in my life, only one could cook well, and surprise surprise, shes not an American. And I really dont want one thinking I am their food savior because they chose not to watch momma in the kitchen as a child.

From what I have found it just builds too much expectation, needless pressure, too many variables and resentment arising from leading with this. My realization is that I will only cook for people I know well, or completely surprise someone exceptionally special. Maybe I am a little jaded from it....

dude it puts you in the boyfriend category and we all know how well that works out.

Post: #3

(12-15-2013 11:22 PM)pheonix500000 Wrote:  dude it puts you in the boyfriend category and we all know how well that works out.

more conversation and story telling than anything else, not ever to say I will bring you breakfast in bed.

Post: #4

Cooking is a good way to overcome bad logistics. Just propose a dinner date at your place and cook. I don't think that cooking automatically puts a person in the "boyfriend" category, however I wouldn't do it for any old pump and dump...more for a girl in the stable. I do think you are right though about building too much expectation by talking about it early on, but you can definitely use it to your advantage if played correctly...basically don't talk much about your experience until after you have cooked for her.

Post: #5

I have three or four dishes I excell at. Did most of the cooking at my two apartments where I had three roomates. Bishes loved it. Never really dropped it in convo though but when you do cook for them watch out.

I feel what you are saying by keeping it hidden. Some skills should be a surprise like making them squirt, domination in bed, having a big dick, salsa dancing, singing, or speaking another language. Once you do surprise them, the pussy melts.

Post: #6

(12-15-2013 11:48 PM)TexasMade Wrote:  I feel what you are saying by keeping it hidden. Some skills should be a surprise like making them squirt, domination in bed, having a big dick, salsa dancing, singing, or speaking another language. Once you do surprise them, the pussy melts.

Exactly

Post: #7

(12-15-2013 11:22 PM)pheonix500000 Wrote:  dude it puts you in the boyfriend category and we all know how well that works out.

Are you saying that giving women a plausible excuse to come round to your place in the evening is a bad idea?


It hardly ever fails for me. I like to cook and I will be cooking for myself, so why not show my superiority?

Note: show, not tell. I don't talk myself up, I just invite them round for "food and a movie".

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #8

What happened puckman for you to make this thread?

Post: #9

(12-15-2013 11:17 PM)puckman Wrote:  Based on the ROK post about hiding your power, from now on I think I am not disclosing I can cook so easily. I lead with it, I always like to brag about it, its one of my 'stories', but here is something I have found over the years, it sets you up for quick failure from overblown hamster expectations. When you don't deliver, the chicken is a tad off, some weird food preference is not known, or for whatever reason your bacon preference is offensive(more than 50% of the time it is), there are literally 1000's of reasons it can go wrong, and this goes for anyone you cook for, not just women you are dating.

You're not doing it right.

1. If you're bragging about it, you're setting yourself up for failure. Nobody likes a braggart. Confident, unfazed? Yes. Braggart, not necessarily.

2. Regarding your food being off or not to her preference, you are missing one key element. If you are as good as you say, you should be able to exhibit your mastery in the kitchen by INVOLVING HER IN IT and getting her helping you. If something doesn't turn out quite right, joke with her that she distracted you or that it was her fault in the first place. Keep it lighthearted. Every woman I've ever cooked for has been very grateful that I put in the effort and more often than not is wowed and my skills are probably shit compared to yours (at least gathering from your experience).

3. If your cooking is really that good, you're definitely missing stuff like the above. It's not just the cooking, it's the rest of your game surrounding this skill.

Post: #10

(12-16-2013 11:07 AM)frenchie Wrote:  What happened puckman for you to make this thread?

for one I cooked for a jew and when I asked if I could make bacon they said yes, so I did and they have been resentful ever since. true story.

two, invited girl over, she kept saying she wanted breakfast so I made it and she barely ate anything. weird.

three, unless you are a traveling professional or so rich you eat out for every meal, I am thoroughly unimpressed with people who cant cook, and I dont want to take care of people like that. When someone tells me that now I kind of pity them.

Post: #11

(12-16-2013 10:24 AM)crippler Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 11:22 PM)pheonix500000 Wrote:  dude it puts you in the boyfriend category and we all know how well that works out.

Are you saying that giving women a plausible excuse to come round to your place in the evening is a bad idea?


It hardly ever fails for me. I like to cook and I will be cooking for myself, so why not show my superiority?

Note: show, not tell. I don't talk myself up, I just invite them round for "food and a movie".

Cooking is good but if youre making it seem like youre proving yourself eg i'm an awesome cook and i can make you this and this vs hey bring a bottle of wine and i'll whip something up, it conveys two very different things. The dude said in the beginning that he used to brag about it.

Post: #12

Do what they said, I don't talk my cooking up and I hold myself to a high standard. When I do cook for a bitch they are more often than not blown away asuming they like steak, lamb, or any kind of carolina style BBQ, then what ever else I make. Couscous is popular because you can do a lot with it but most of the chicks I fuck with have never heard of it. I've yet to have a girl say my cooking was anything except sensational because I just did it and then hit em in the mouth with it.

Post: #13

I don't ever really bring it up. I'm a pretty good cook but I dislike cooking for people or providing anything beyond the most basic hospitality in general. I'll do it if I have to but I take no pleasure in it.

If the topic does come up in conversation my focus is on whether a girl can cook. Even before I heard of game I judged the shit out of girls that couldn't cook and ripped into them hard with a lecture about how they go through life thinking it's acceptable to lack a basic life skill and rely on others to feed them like they are children. Made fun of them saying their fridges were nothing but booze and lean cuisines in the freezer (or amy's, depending on the type of chick). If the girl turned out to be a decent cook I'd praise her for not being a degenerate and try to get her to join my hate train. After learning about game I looked back on all this and laughed my ass off. Obviously I still do it.

Post: #14

(12-16-2013 10:24 AM)crippler Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 11:22 PM)pheonix500000 Wrote:  dude it puts you in the boyfriend category and we all know how well that works out.

Are you saying that giving women a plausible excuse to come round to your place in the evening is a bad idea?


It hardly ever fails for me. I like to cook and I will be cooking for myself, so why not show my superiority?

Note: show, not tell. I don't talk myself up, I just invite them round for "food and a movie".

^I tend to agree... if used correctly it can be a plausible way into her place without much effort. Most women appreciate the gesture and if you can prepare ANYTHING halfway edible it puts you halfway into the panties. Think about it, you instruct HER to purchase the food and drink. It cost you NOTHING, and at the end of the night so is already open off your charm and the gesture and hopefully on tilt off the drink.

This technique has worked WITHOUT me selling or advertising my skills in the least bit. Use her senses (smell & taste) against her. It's as simple as sending a pic of your dinner that took you all of 5 mins. We all eat with our eyes...Creating intrigue or something unique about yourself puts you AHEAD of the game. Again --when used CORRECTLY.

Post: #15

(12-16-2013 05:09 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  ^I tend to agree... if used correctly it can be a plausible way into her place without much effort. Most women appreciate the gesture and if you can prepare ANYTHING halfway edible it puts you halfway into the panties. Think about it, you instruct HER to purchase the food and drink. It cost you NOTHING, and at the end of the night so is already open off your charm and the gesture and hopefully on tilt off the drink.

This technique has worked WITHOUT me selling or advertising my skills in the least bit. Use her senses (smell & taste) against her. It's as simple as sending a pic of your dinner that took you all of 5 mins. We all eat with our eyes...Creating intrigue or something unique about yourself puts you AHEAD of the game. Again --when used CORRECTLY.

I'm feelin this.

Post: #16

Retreating from your true nature is sometimes what you should do.

I'd much rather kick back with a book some nights than head out to the spots, but I can't do both and get the results I want.

Or can I.

Can you incorporate elements of yourself, of who you are, into your style of game?

It's much much easier to do things slightly different than totally different.

So I imagine you invite your skinny Belarussian chick to your flat, and she's on the couch, sipping vino, switching channels between lifetime and own.

Meanwhile you're using all the cutting boards for chicken and veggies, 4 burners burning, even running something in the oven, apron on, appropriate towels tucked...

Probably whipping up something from your fridge and cupboard, but is probably next level in technique and final result. (although it's troubling that you mention that things don't turn out right, especially for someone w/your experience)

Scratch that plan.

Woman exists for you, not for the other way around.
She's supposed to respond to your beck and call, not the other way around.

In no uncertain terms

PUT THAT BITCH TO WORK.

This means you take her to the market as part of the date.
She has her half of the list, or you peruse the aisles chatting and talking about other shoppers.

When you get home she needs to do the prep work.

Measure the herbs/spices and put them in the individual ingredients bowls

Tear up the lettuce for the salad
Make the dressing

Filet the fish...

Give her guidance, compliment sparingly, teach her - especially you coming from the back in the natural dominant position, play with her and with the food...

And definitely tell her she needs to take her shoes off when she comes to the kitchen. "we got 2 out of 3, we'll work on the 3rd after dessert"

She preps.
She sets the table.
Let her grab the wine, and you uncork it.

You divide the labor like a couple would and increase the connection.

It's imperative to see how well you work with a chick, and to let her realize she's being judged in a non-sexual manner, but she'd better put up or shut the fuck up.

Being able to expose her lack of femininity and then getting her to prove it to you?

If a chick ever hits Casa WIA thinking she's gonna watch Real Housewives while i'm cooking up some rice and peas, that broad might end up spatchcocking a chicken with a cleaver.

That being said, the above is for chicks you want to continue to fuck.

In many styles of game, it's important to have a chick contribute to your situation in order for her to invest, and invest further later on.

The blowback here is that you can get a chick really invested in your shit, and realize you don't like her.

WIA

Post: #17

(12-16-2013 05:19 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It's imperative to see how well you work with a chick, and to let her realize she's being judged in a non-sexual manner, but she'd better put up or shut the fuck up.

Wise