Post: #1

I stepped out today to walk to the store. I'm dressed completely down in athletic shorts, sandals, Adidas cap and a zip up running jacket like I always do when going to grab some milk from the store. I'm at the corner of a major intersection waiting for the crosswalk light. There are 4 people on the opposite corner ready to cross to my side. One was this absolutely stunning blue-eyed mulatta, looking like maybe a 28 year old version of the girl at the top of this thread.

While I was waiting, I was thinking of what I could do. I'm not a street game guy, though I would like to branch into that. The only place I ever approach is in bars or through social networks. So I'm kind of perplexed. If I start walking when the light changes, I can't stop her in the middle of crossing a busy street. My only other option would be to stay put on the corner and wait for her to cross and then try and stop her to talk as she got to the other side. But it would be obvious from a mile away what I'm doing and her defenses would surely go up as she's walking toward me. I'd probably look like I'm stalking too.

So as the light changed, I just walked and she along with the other people(she wasn't with them) walked past me. I looked her in the face as she was approaching to see if she'd make eye contact back or give some sign of openness, but not once did she even glance in my direction. Looked kind of stuck-up in fact. She walked forward with a stone faced gaze. I just said fuck it kept going.

What kind of options would I have to play with if I could rewind the clock today and do it over again? Maybe I'm overlooking something.

Post: #2

That's tough. I would have done the same thing. Maybe you could have waved and got her attention before the light changed and met her in the middle real quick and then go direct with something like "I was admiring you from across the street and I wanted to introduce myself. I'm speakeasy, handsome devil and violinist. How do you feel about doing something together sometime?"

Actually now that I think about it, one time I was leaving the Sports Club LA. I was parked around back at one of the meters and I was putting all my stuff in the car. There were several spaces available right near my car so I wasn't really hurrying. All of a sudden this loud honking starts going off, I look in the rearview and some guy in a big black escalade is throwing his hands up in the air. I was like "WTF?" and he started banging on the horn again so I jumped out of my car. He jumped out too and started yelling that I was taking to long and all this crap. I said "there's plenty of fucking spaces right there" . The guy was like, "I don't want those spaces I want that one!". I couldn't believe it. I said "You know what man, you're starting to hurt my fucking ears, are you gonna do something or not?" (I remembered that line because my friend actually told me another story where he said it) At that time this girl in a Mercedes drove by us and she rolled down the window and said to me "Don't do anything, it isn't worth it" We had exchanged glances in the gym a few times. I left the guy standing there and walked over to her car and started talking to her for a couple minutes while he just stood there bewildered. She was this beautiful Ethiopian girl and she gave me her number. Never did bang her though....

Post: #3

Tough situation indeed. Probably your best option there would be direct game, its good because its not average and its counter intuitative. The bad part (imo) is that it takes more "balls" to perform direct game specially if you're not used to approach and day game at all.

Well next time it happens you should give it a try, if you get rejected its not the end of the world

Post: #4

@Speakeasy. I am for the most part, 70% street game. And, guess what? There will NEVER be a perfect scenario for you to approach a girl on the street, ever. SO, The best way to break down any shields when it is obvious that you are waiting to talk to her (and she knows/feels it) is to call out the obvious yourself!

Example:

Target is waiting at the opposite corner to cross the street, as I stand in the opposite corner or elsewhere she is walking towards.

15 seconds later, she is within arms reach, blurt something semi-funny and make fun of yourself in a way to ease the tension, showing her that you are totally relaxed and cool. It does not have to be something spectacular, or a Dave Chapelle type humor, it's just something to trigger a smile, which leads to another topic about what she's up to.

MIxx: "Girl, I've been waiting for a senior to help cross the street all morning for my good deed, but since you showed up, I may as well be a man and say hello...can I help you cross the next street young lady?"

Whatever her response is, it is very likely just going to be a smile...she will not know how to react since its morning (I am guessing this because you are out buying Milk, and dressed in comfy sleep/lounge clothes), but the tension is broken and possibly gone. You can quickly move on to trust/comfort building by displaying confidence and humor at the same time.


Now, it sounds corny, and really cheesy....but so what? You opened, she smiled, now the tension is broken.....move on to comfort/trust building. Hell, she may have seen you a mile away too, and intentionally chose to walk that direction hoping you'd say something!


Now, she's gone forever....and you'll never know if that was the woman you'd be screaming "Happy New Year!" with....

So, for 2011, I would like to make a request from you...approach 2 women per day, anywhere on the street...no matter what. A lot of them will freak out, or even run away from you thinking you will rob/rape them (fuck 'em)....but guess what? some women will smile, appreciate your efforts, uniqueness, and confidence, and reward you for it.

It's happened to me many times. I've had girls run with the fear of god in them from my approach, thats actually insecurities on their part, not yours. Problem is that those women are so used to the bar scene, and pussified men, they cannot handle a man like me anyways..they did you a favor by running away.

On the positive note, there have been many women who have smiled at my approach, and jump for joy because I approached right at a time where they really needed a man to be man and win them.

The only bad approach, is the one you did not make.

Mixx

Post: #5

good info.

I don't want to sound like a broken record but can you share some more day game?

Post: #6

Man, I have to tell you my Inbox is full of day-game/street-game requests for advice from many guys around the globe. I'd love to sit here and answer close to 1400 e-mails on the topic, as it's my favorite topic to talk about

I guess I will have to take up Roosh on writing that book after all. Roosh, want in on a day-game experts handbook? You got all the connections with publishers, I don't. I need an agent.. hehe

Mixx

Post: #7

(12-04-2010 12:21 PM)MiXX Wrote:  Man, I have to tell you my Inbox is full of day-game/street-game requests for advice from many guys around the globe. I'd love to sit here and answer close to 1400 e-mails on the topic, as it's my favorite topic to talk about

I guess I will have to take up Roosh on writing that book after all. Roosh, want in on a day-game experts handbook? You got all the connections with publishers, I don't. I need an agent.. hehe

Mixx

Mixx,

Suppose you're walking down the street and you see a girl you find attractive approaching you. You're closing in and you can tell she's giving you eye contact beyond the normal city cursory glance. Is it better to stop her while approaching her face to face, or to walk past her and catch up to her? Does it even matter? I know subtle changes to how you do things can make a big difference.

Post: #8

(12-04-2010 12:51 PM)Menace Wrote:  Mixx,

Suppose you're walking down the street and you see a girl you find attractive approaching you. You're closing in and you can tell she's giving you eye contact beyond the normal city cursory glance. Is it better to stop her while approaching her face to face, or to walk past her and catch up to her? Does it even matter? I know subtle changes to how you do things can make a big difference.

I have made about 700 approaches in 2010, and out of those 700, maybe about 400 or so have been street approaches just in 2010 alone, worldwide. What I have learned is that women, by nature, have their guard up when walking the streets alone, more so than if they were accompanied by their mother, brother, co-worker, lesbian lover or gay friend.

So, to approach a girl from the back is to trigger a defense mechanism that gives her seconds to "fight or flight" to survive a potential attack from a would be rapist, mugger or just horny pervert on the street....which is you unfortunately.

Now, the best way to talk to a girl approaching you is to warn ahead in advance that you intend to approach by using body language, and when she notices you...make sure you smile (not laugh in a nervous manner), and just be very polite, and confident. Lift up your hands as to signal a gesture for her to come to you or simply wave as to say hello...girls instincts will dictate that you are "safe", and she should just be friendly and not run-away.

Stand in front of her, but do so in a non-confrontational stance: get your hands out of your pocket, do not raise your hands to her face, and look at her dead in her eyes to lock-her in.

Of course, you never know what is going through a woman's mind when you approach, even if you do everything 100% correct, she could be plotting to kill her husband for all you know, and you just fucked up her concentration. Or, she could be thinking, the next guy that approaches me, I'm just gonna be adventurous and fuck his brains out, I have not had dick in over a month.


Bottom line, if you missed your opportunity from the front, do not stalk her for 3 blocks, and get even more nervous...just quickly yell out "excuse me, please don't be alarmed by my sudden approach, but......<add a situational question>" - wait until she has made a decision to talk to you and be friendly, BEFORE you move in closer to her personal space - which is about a good 10 seconds.


Mixx

Post: #9

Fisto and Mixx both have the right idea, and give good approaches to the situation. As Mixx said, its all about lowering her defenses. There are some women out there who just won't engage a guy on a city street, especially when in full stride. But anything that can make her laugh and maybe demonstrate some creativity/ social adeptness (ie: that your maybe more socially intelligent than the average street PUA and are worth stopping to talk to). I like Mixx's faux chivalrous approach, as it demonstrates that he needs to make himself appear wholesome, being that she will likely assume that guys doing street approaches are slick and untrustworthy. This demonstrates social intelligence, and is therefore attractive.

I always get a smile out of assuming that we had a date, that she was late, and telling her that we can still make out table if we hurry. This also sets the frame where I'm not trying to be disingenuous by being her friend. Its somewhat funny, it is somewhat direct, and it sets the frame that I am going to pick her up rather than try and talk about some BS as cover for wanting to ask her out.

Post: #10

Great advice Mixx. I guess I was just too worried that I would look creepy if I just stood there waiting, esp being dressed down the way I was. But you're completely right, there is rarely a perfect time on the street.

Post: #11

Quote:So, for 2011, I would like to make a request from you...approach 2 women per day, anywhere on the street...no matter what. A lot of them will freak out, or even run away from you thinking you will rob/rape them (fuck 'em)....but guess what? some women will smile, appreciate your efforts, uniqueness, and confidence, and reward you for it.

This is great and necessary, I need this too definitely. Although in my case it would be two woman per day anywhere on the campus haha.


By the way Mixx, what are your thoughts on direct day game? More specifically direct openers such as:

"Hey I saw you passing me by while we crossed the street and I just thought you were kind of cute, and just wanted to come talk to you" and similar openers.

The opener you mentioned seems to be similar to this one but you manage to break the tension with something funny. This one on the other hand is not like that, yet I want to know if you've tried it and does it work.

I've only tried it once, and it worked, until I blew it away with some other shit (but thats another story)

Post: #12

I think if you were dressed down, it could even help you because it looks out of place. If you look like you rolled out of bed and had a comic looking smile on your face. I'm really inconsistent with the street approaches but, I'm getting better. Last night I was at the grocery store. When I was coming out with my cart I noticed a girl was pushing her cart up onto the platform that separates the cars and I thought she was doing that because she wanted to leave it rather than put it in the place where they go (no one wants to do push it all the way over there). I said "ah ah ah, don't you leave that cart!" She looked up alarmed and I smiled wth this serious look and kind of wagged my finger. She actually smiled back embarrassed and pushed the cart all the way over and put it in the place where it's supposed to go. I was a little taken of guard by that because my plan was to bring mine over to hers and post mine up on the other side and say something like "our carts are kissing". Instead I said "wow! I don't think I'd go to that much effort! It'll take me a sec but you can take mine to if you want." Now, that was kind of lame, but she smiled anyway and looked thoughtfully and then said "Maaaybe" and in that moment I had the chance to do something but instead she turned her head and went back over to her car.

Post: #13

(12-04-2010 02:59 PM)FretDancer Wrote:  

Quote:So, for 2011, I would like to make a request from you...approach 2 women per day, anywhere on the street...no matter what. A lot of them will freak out, or even run away from you thinking you will rob/rape them (fuck 'em)....but guess what? some women will smile, appreciate your efforts, uniqueness, and confidence, and reward you for it.

This is great and necessary, I need this too definitely. Although in my case it would be two woman per day anywhere on the campus haha.


By the way Mixx, what are your thoughts on direct day game? More specifically direct openers such as:

"Hey I saw you passing me by while we crossed the street and I just thought you were kind of cute, and just wanted to come talk to you" and similar openers.

The opener you mentioned seems to be similar to this one but you manage to break the tension with something funny. This one on the other hand is not like that, yet I want to know if you've tried it and does it work.

I've only tried it once, and it worked, until I blew it away with some other shit (but thats another story)

My 2 cents: When I approach a girl, I do it with the intention of being direct because I don't know how long I can be witty and smooth without eventually saying too much. I do similar stuff as I wrote above on Speakeasy's comment which is close to what you said. I always end the conversation when I feel like there's good chemistry at a seemingly sudden time "Listen, I've got to get going/have some friends waiting on me/am on my way to meet up with a friend" ("Was he on his way to see a girl"), how do you FEEL about doing something together sometime"?

I ask her how she "feels" about it because there isn't really a yes/no answer to that. I say "do something together" because it sounds more pleasant and less threatening.

You will generally hear 4 responses.

1. Sure sounds good, ok, yeah why not?, etc - In which case you are in.
"great, whats your number and I'll txt you"

2. I'm really busy, I have a lot going on right now, well I have finals this week..., etc - In which case there is initial resistance. In this case I borrow a line from Meet Joe Black. "Look I'm really busy too, but I always have coffee and I bet you do too. We may as well have it together *smile*". Or variations thereof. This has actually really gotten past a lot of defenses. If this doesn't work you will hear "Well, Actually I have a boyfriend" or "I'm just not interested"

3. I have a boyfriend, I'm seeing someone, etc - at this point I look at her real confused like I'm not understanding where she's going with this, I say "Are you...suggesting we have a torrid affair? *smile*" Or I'll say raise my fist squint my eyes comically "Wait....are you trying to tell me you want me to beat him up???" These two comments usually get big laughs. Most of the time you'll have to end the conversation but you were able to keep your dignity. Sometimes you'll hear "well, I guess I could take your number and if something happens I'll call you". This has happened to me once but it was worth all the other rejections.

4. I'm really not interested. No thanks. Silence. You suck at life, you know that? - In this case the bitch shields are impregnable.

In the flow chart when cases 3 and 4 come up and you have gotten a polite or impolite "No" I always say. "Hey that's fine, I'll ask you again in a month. and I go my way. With the polite "no" its a friendly smile I give and I walk away still feeling good because she was flattered. With the impolite "no" It's a "I don't really give a fuck look" and I walk away knowing she at least is going to tell her friends about what happened to her.

Hope that helps.

Post: #14

Good reply fisto. So in other words you do use direct openers like the one I posted before. I guess I should still try a few more times with direct openers to get an average of success.

After all, when you can't think of anything to say in a given context/scenario, the only that's left is a sincere direct opener

Post: #15

(12-04-2010 09:41 AM)MiXX Wrote:  So, for 2011, I would like to make a request from you...approach 2 women per day, anywhere on the street...no matter what.

This is fucking good, i'm going to use this. Too many times I jam all of my approaching in on the weekends. The 2 a day plan sounds like it will keep our game constantly tight and fresh.

Post: #16

Speakeasy,

The moment I saw her I would have stopped and got out my phone. I would have a fake conversation and waited for her to cross the street. I might even turn my back to her so she thinks that I never noticed her. When she got across the street i would just ignore her and continue talking for just a few seconds. When she gets next to you and you're walking side by side just hang up and say hi. Of course now you can pretend that you are walking the same direction as her.


When doing this kind of thing I have learned that its important to not make eye contact with the girl until the moment you are about to say hi. If she knows that you have been watching her walk for a block or 2, that really makes it weird. You want her to think that you just happened to be standing there when she walked by. You wanna make it look like you were the one who was caught off guard. You're just a cool guy minding his own business. Until a pretty girl walked by and you just reacted. It was just a spontaneous meeting, a random encounter with a pretty stranger. Thats my frame.