Post: #1

Didn't see a newbie intro section, so I'll just post something here. I love/hate this place at the same time. Lemme explain.

I was reading this thread (/thread-18097.html) in which a guy is complaining about being 32, professionally successful, extremely moral, a foreveraloner, and completely indifferent to the used up hags hitting on him because those same hags rejected him when they had their chance.

I identified with the post... until I saw this:

(11-26-2012 11:10 AM)scorpion Wrote:  The bitterness from years of rejection has poisoned him to his core, it comes across in his writing. He hates women. He hates other men who are good with women. Most of all he hates himself for being a failure with women.

This guy failed the most basic test of natural selection: adaptability to one's environment.

So much truth. This is me. I've pretty much hit rock bottom at this point.

I just turned 28
I have an engineering degree and a decent job, with bank account aesthetics.
I too was raised in a 50s-style home, overly sheltered.

I am a fatass.
I am an introvert.
I am shy.
Fucking hair is thinning, on dat dere rogaine time. Gonna go bald/beard soon. FML.

And most shameful of all: Never gotten laid. Oh, I've messed around, got my dick sucked a bunch of times... just enough to stop me from going on a shooting rampage.

But for a multitude of reasons (intimidated by hotties, not at all interested in trolling for fatties, too low self-esteem to recognize many opportunities, too much of a shy phaggot introvert to make any moves)

I have been awake to the bullshit of feminism for 5 years. I'm an old school guy in terms of gender relations, it's my way or the highway. Ironically, my dad is pretty alpha and has always kept my mom in check. But he was so old-school and traditional that NONE of his advice is of any use.

Since I can't have what my parents had relationship-wise... I hope to die balls deep in my 80s inside some 18 year old sloot's gash.

For now I want revenge for all the years I pissed away in school not getting laid.

So I need to learn game. And fast.

Personal improvement-wise here are my goals:
-GTFO the rents' house. Saving money to buy my own place, but staying here is stunting my growth.
-Lose the weight: In the gym 4x a week - and taking care of nutrition. I need to lose 100lbs
-Learn to not be a beta phaggot
-Get on NoFap hardcore - whittled it down to 1 or 2x a week, wanna eliminate it completely.

Anyway, If anyone can link some good beginner stuff to read, I appreciate it. Lots of good info out there, but too much is like not enough.

I've listened to every Patrice Oneal clip I can find, and I listen to Tom Leykis. These are solid bases in an abstract sense. What I need to develop is skills to pull/close.

And as for sex, I guess I better rent some hookers, so I don't look like a complete ass at 28.

Anyway, fuck me, it's this or suicide so let's give it a go.
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Post: #2

Well— don't pick suicide, for one.

Two— start the Roosh program today.

Three— I can't stand the emphasis people place on immediate change. Lose 30 pounds in 10 days, get rich next Tuesday, & etc. The amount of time you have left to live is probably long. Several decades, at least. The amount of time it takes to gradually, steadily, and realistically transform yourself is by comparison extremely short.

If you're 28 now and you spend the next two years losing weight and learning to game women, you will be a machine by your 30th birthday. You'll spend your 30s dating a slew of attractive women such as most currently in-shape dudes would never imagine.

Turning ourselves into the men we want to be requires time. The good news is that it's fun watching yourself become physically and mentally stronger. Enjoy the process, fuck some marginal chicks along the way, and don't worry too much about how long it takes to reach your goal. Life's long, and another 8 reaches the legal age of consent every minute.

Four— there is a newbie forum, where I figure this'll get moved.

Post: #3

There are so many ways to go to start moving in the right direction.

I acknowledge you for your authenticity in your first post (I sure hope this doesn't turn out into a troll post - not trying to be mean).

Don't put too much pressure on yourself out the door. It may just add to your frustrations, if for some reason you are not hitting your goals.

The fact, that you have found this forum and are reading is a great start, just being in this space will have impact on you - even if it is just from reading. Read it enough and you'll catch yourself in a moment and know how to handle a moment or later you realize what happened in a moment and learn from it. That was my initial experience when I was first exposed to this forum.

You can make gradual changes or you can just flip the light switch and say you are going to be an entirely different person. But that latter approach will take incredible mental strength to do.

I'd suggest that you continue to read threads that interest you and pick a few goals and set some goals. Start hitting those goals be it weight related, saving money, whatever. Success breeds success. If you are missing the goals, introspection may allow you to understand why you missed those goals and you can grow from that.

Feel free to ask your questions, etc. The men on this board are surprisingly supportive, but do appreciate that you make an effort to search the board and build off existing threads. You do a great service when doing that 1) Shows you have taken the time to do some work 2) Others may find benefit in a thread being renewed. Some random examples of good threads that could help a lot of guys would be the ACV one and the one on coconut oil.

As long as you are in motion and making progress, you are growing versus shrinking as an individual. And that I think (the growing part) should be a goal for every man.

I wish you the best on your journey.

Post: #4

You've outlined your problems. That's the first step, so you're on your way. Use the resources here, but you have to know yourself better to properly utilize and understand them. It's all about making a better YOU.

You have to live the man that you want to be. Kinda like fake it until you make it. The best game is no game, meaning grow into the guy that you want to be.

Confidence is key. You have to focus on your positives to understand your self worth. If you don't see your value no one else will. You have to define you, and never allow anyone else to do that. There are a lot of guys here with great stories of personal growth and success, use that.

If you need help come to the forum. But don't get all butt hurt if some of the guys here give you tough love. May you prosper and not fuck up. But if you do may the BAN HAMMER fall lightly on your avatar.

Improvement is a marathon. Not a sprint. Good luck.

Post: #5

(11-28-2013 10:29 PM)000 Wrote:  Didn't see a newbie intro section.

Are you trolling?

   

Post: #6

I think he meant a thread where newbies introduce themselves.

Post: #7

(11-29-2013 03:51 AM)Sharkie Wrote:  I think he meant a thread where newbies introduce themselves.

/thread-5605.html

Post: #8

-GTFO the rents' house. Saving money to buy my own place, but staying here is stunting my growth.

[Not neccesarily the best idea. Buying ties you, and ROI is largely dependent on variable local market conditions. Rent a flat in a good location. Many of my past failures to bang were directly linked to bad logistics. All the game in the world is useless if you can't isolate to a nice bachelor's pad. Read Tuthmosis Bang Guide. /thread-8681.html
Once you have a little game, logistics count for 50% of all.]

-Lose the weight: In the gym 4x a week - and taking care of nutrition. I need to lose 100lbs

[After you loose the fat. Go on a strenght program with lots of squats, deadlifts and bench press. Forget about the isolating routines gym instructors give to you. You are a beginner. You have no strenght. They are designed so you don't injure yourself. Do them two months. After that, go for compund exersises which generate testosterone and human growth hormone. Careful with your lower back and neck. Start swimming. Way better than most aerobic exercises.]

-Learn to not be a beta phaggot

[Read all archives of RooshV, Heartiste and Rollo. Re-read. Check them daily. Buy and read Bang, Day Bang and Rational Male. Re-read. Re-read every 6 months.]

-Get on NoFap hardcore - whittled it down to 1 or 2x a week, wanna eliminate it completely

[Quite useful. Fapping alone won't hurt you, but it is a discharge for testosterone.]

My story was similar to you. I am 29. Discovered game this june. While I am no playboy by any measure, in 6 months i have learned more about life and woment than in all my life. It is normal for me to have 2 dates lined up per weekend. Of course, half result in flakes and I bang perhaps 5% of my prospects, but it is a world of difference compared to past years.

Post: #9

Post: #10

(11-28-2013 10:29 PM)000 Wrote:  I have an engineering degree and a decent job, with bank account aesthetics.

Fucking hair is thinning, on dat dere rogaine time. Gonna go bald/beard soon. FML.

/thread-16359.html
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/

Post: #11

Build a routine. You'll win that way.

Post: #12

(11-30-2013 12:06 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Build a routine. You'll win that way.

Understated and profound advice.

Somewhat ironically, routine is the path out of a rut. Don't try and do it overnight. Just slowly add one thing at a time. I've found one new activity every 6 to 8 weeks is about right. For instance you might find it hard to immediately go to the gym four days a week. So just go two for a month or two, then go three, then go four. Don't worry about going out and approaching every night. Just find one or two bars that have a vibe you like. Go to them on the same days every week. Do that a for a few months. Then add another night out. Eventually you'll start seeing the same people over and over. Some of them will be cute girls. It will be much easier to go up and approach those girls and they'll be more receptive because you'll seem familiar.