Post: #901

If you stay in shape over 40, each year you'll pull further and further away from your age peer group and really stand out.

Post: #902

(08-17-2015 01:58 PM)Menace Wrote:  Also, TRT TRT TRT.

yes, no question. But be sure to take this on smartly, there are many issues that you need to be up to speed at, else its like any other drug that you might take with no idea how its going to fuck up your body.

If you are considering TRT then step 1 is to get blood work done to see what your numbers are right now. You can do this cheaply away from your insurance via privatemdlabs.com for $47 just to get your T numbers alone. And here is a %15 off coupon code: PKCR45.

You pay via their website using the discount code after selecting the tests you want. They send you a pdf of a lab slip that you print off your computer and take to a LabCorp lab for blood draw, get the draw, go home. 24-48 hrs later you get the lab results by email in pdf. I've used it a few times, couldn't be easier and you are dealing with a real lab just like you would if your doc told you to get some blood work done.

Just "Total T" is the bare minimum, if you are serious about going down this path then E2, LH, and other markers are good to get tested for an monitor as well.

/threadjack

Post: #903

(08-17-2015 10:33 AM)NCS Wrote:  I'm moving down to .5cc 1x/week from 1cc, dragging out more than a week gives me too much hi/low feeling. Recent blood work came back too high for Test levels so doc moving me down, goal level is 900-1000, was at 1450ish

Sustanon, no. You? Thoughts?

Yeah its a combination of several tests and makes you horny as a mofo. I would rather deal with that before I touch Cialis or Viagra, I hear they have bad side effects.

Also other benefits, muscles are fuller, increase strength, reduction in body fat and generally you feel good.

Post: #904

(08-17-2015 06:12 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Yeah its a combination of several tests and makes you horny as a mofo. I would rather deal with that before I touch Cialis or Viagra, I hear they have bad side effects.

Also other benefits, muscles are fuller, increase strength, reduction in body fat and generally you feel good.

I take a viagra gel (kamagra) available overseas when I'm in the mood for sport fucking a PYT. Worst I get is headache, runny nose, and some back soreness. Goes away by the next day, ibu if the headache gets too bad. The upside has been worth it to me. Like having foreskin over a stainless steel rod, almost turns into a tool of punishment, not that anyone has ever complained. But otherwise feels like normal libido for this stage in my life

I get a bit of water retention on the T, I'm not much for taking pills all the time so the water pills that one can get to address this just sit unused. Mulling an 8wk TrenA cycle... Just not getting to the gym often enough these days to justify it at the moment, need a bit more discipline first. I'll look into the sust - you using a UGL for sust source? (not asking for a source, just wondering)

Post: #905

^ Tren is nice but does your head in, crazy dreams etc.

Sorry don't know what a UGL is?

Post: #906

UGL - UnderGround Lab, a non pharmacy source for steroids

Post: #907

(08-17-2015 11:17 PM)NCS Wrote:  UGL - UnderGround Lab, a non pharmacy source for steroids

Where does UGL source these steroids from?

Post: #908

(08-17-2015 11:19 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 11:17 PM)NCS Wrote:  UGL - UnderGround Lab, a non pharmacy source for steroids

Where does UGL source these steroids from?

from raw materials that chemists mix/cook into various flavors of steroids, raw materials come from places like India. Painting with a .very. broad brush, for the most part all steroids are flavors of testosterone. One can buy testosterone in powder form and mix it up with things like grapeseed oil in various strengths. Pharm strength is 200mg/ml, some UGLs provide up to 350mg/ml for guys who take higher doses more often, reduces the amount of oil you shoot ever other day for example. Other stuff is animal grade medicines that is repurposed for human use. Lots of info out there on the interwebs

Post: #909

(08-16-2015 05:24 PM)NCS Wrote:  Any readers of R Don Steele's "How to Date Young Women For Men over 35"?

Yes absolutely, he was on record long before even Mystery. Only Ovid was earlier lol.

A lot of wisdom in his writing. It's all field based and he has a Master's in counseling as well. However, he had what I see as a vanity-based block about chasing women overseas, so his technique is different from what you can use in 3rd World.

He specifically advocated indirect game for older guys, saying it takes time for young women to adjust to having a much older guy.

Also very specific instructions on "going down the age ladder," meaning get a 35 year old first so you're having regular sex and don't look desperate, then get gradually get younger and younger girls.

One more or I'll feel I'm giving away all his secrets: He advocated innoculating your young girlfriend against her friends who'll "talk to her for her own good" telling her you're too old for her.

Beforehand you tell her jealous people will do that, say that they're trying to "help her" when they're really just jealous. Then when it happens, she won't listen.

Post: #910

(08-17-2015 03:35 PM)Dusty Wrote:  If you stay in shape over 40, each year you'll pull further and further away from your age peer group and really stand out.

Good point, I've been guilty of fattening up and now have lost weight. Some of my declining appeal was getting fat, not aging, as it is returning as I lose weight. In fact, I'm going to the gym right now!

Post: #911

Recently celebrated the birthday of a buddy of mine who turned 40.

Nothing celebrates that day better than sex with a 25 year old (6-7), a 22 year old (solid 7+) and multiple n-closes and make-outs with 18-28 year old girls ranging from the 6 to one high 8-9 in terms of beauty. 40 did not hurt him one iota and no Beta Bucks strategy to be seen there. Some of the approaches were done wearing flip-flops in Polish cities.

Mazel tow - 40th birthday celebration! It wouldn't have been possible being fully Game aware and somewhat adept at it.

Post: #912

(08-17-2015 11:33 PM)NCS Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 11:19 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 11:17 PM)NCS Wrote:  UGL - UnderGround Lab, a non pharmacy source for steroids

Where does UGL source these steroids from?

from raw materials that chemists mix/cook into various flavors of steroids, raw materials come from places like India. Painting with a .very. broad brush, for the most part all steroids are flavors of testosterone. One can buy testosterone in powder form and mix it up with things like grapeseed oil in various strengths. Pharm strength is 200mg/ml, some UGLs provide up to 350mg/ml for guys who take higher doses more often, reduces the amount of oil you shoot ever other day for example. Other stuff is animal grade medicines that is repurposed for human use. Lots of info out there on the interwebs

How's the quality control for this? Not that I'm trying to poke holes or question the validity of what you're telling me, but this may be something I would want to consider when I start traveling overseas and can no longer use my doctor here in the States. I just want to be careful with what I use.

Post: #913

(08-17-2015 11:33 PM)NCS Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 11:19 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 11:17 PM)NCS Wrote:  UGL - UnderGround Lab, a non pharmacy source for steroids

Where does UGL source these steroids from?

from raw materials that chemists mix/cook into various flavors of steroids, raw materials come from places like India. Painting with a .very. broad brush, for the most part all steroids are flavors of testosterone. One can buy testosterone in powder form and mix it up with things like grapeseed oil in various strengths. Pharm strength is 200mg/ml, some UGLs provide up to 350mg/ml for guys who take higher doses more often, reduces the amount of oil you shoot ever other day for example. Other stuff is animal grade medicines that is repurposed for human use. Lots of info out there on the interwebs

No I don't use the pharma grade.
You make a good point because the last time I used it, the potency was pretty strong.
I wont touch it again unless I get some young hot nympho in my grips.
Places like India and Mexico, I hear you can get pharma for cheap. A buddy of mine was in India and said you can go to the local pharmacy to get a test shot. They even sell HGH over the counter, but I know a guy in my gym on it and he has that terrible GH belly look.

Post: #914

articles about the plunging decline in the quality of Mexican goods have been out for some time, Mexico used to be the gold standard for quality as well as for ease of purchasing. Now India is supposedly on the upswing, and while I'm certainly nowhere near being a chemist I am an occasional user of things other than T, and when traveling to Thailand I always grab a few boxes of Cypionax (testC) which is dosed at 100mg/ml (bigger shot volumes needed) for 1200Baht or about $40 vs the bottle of Watson that I posted above which has been going up in price for some time now and is about $140 or so with a docs script. I ran a box of Alpha Pharma Androxine (water based Tren) last Dec and enjoyed the results. Half life of 24 (48??) hrs (means the dosage in your body has half the effectiveness at the half life point) so in 48-72 hours all the drug would be used up. Used an insulin needle into the thigh, consistency of milk. Nice gains in the gym in a real short time, PR's in squats one after the other. Supposedly required a script but I bought it without issue over the counter from a pharm on the beach south of Bangkok (points if you smile at the vague reference).

I don't want to degrade a game thread with PED stuff, if someone is interested in more info about all this maybe start a new thread? up to you

Post: #915

Well I think this is a good topic, it applies to men over 40 who can benefit from a little Test injection once a week.

I mean $140 isn't a lot of money, the benefits are great.

Post: #916

(08-18-2015 01:46 PM)NCS Wrote:  Supposedly required a script but I bought it without issue over the counter from a pharm on the beach south of Bangkok (points if you smile at the vague reference).

Must be on beach rd.

Post: #917

(08-18-2015 07:43 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 01:46 PM)NCS Wrote:  Supposedly required a script but I bought it without issue over the counter from a pharm on the beach south of Bangkok (points if you smile at the vague reference).

Must be on beach rd.

close enough for the win, 2nd road near Tims Bar

Post: #918

I don't know what it is relative to what's discussed here, but I got an anti-aging doc ( Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine is now a legit speciality association of MDs and related pro's) to prescribe me testosterone drops and I get them at a "compounding pharmacy" in San Francisco, a month's supply is less than $100 it's all above board and legit.

Testosterone as treatment for male aging is pretty mainstream now, younger docs are more open minded and don't have the combination of non-intervention except for acute disease, and also the Calvinist belief in benefits of suffering.

Once I had the RX from the legit anti-aging doc, my regular nurse practitioner had no problem renewing it. They've all heard about it by now.

Maybe it's weak compared to underground/foreign stuff, I don't know much about it.

Post: #919

(08-18-2015 10:41 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I don't know what it is relative to what's discussed here, but I got an anti-aging doc ( Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine is now a legit speciality association of MDs and related pro's) to prescribe me testosterone drops and I get them at a "compounding pharmacy" in San Francisco, a month's supply is less than $100 it's all above board and legit.

Testosterone as treatment for male aging is pretty mainstream now, younger docs are more open minded and don't have the combination of non-intervention except for acute disease, and also the Calvinist belief in benefits of suffering.

Once I had the RX from the legit anti-aging doc, my regular nurse practitioner had no problem renewing it. They've all heard about it by now.

Maybe it's weak compared to underground/foreign stuff, I don't know much about it.

under the tongue drops?

still lots of practitioners with little to no knowledge about the whys of TRT, they hit the chart in their doctor book that says "ok, you're..... 50 years old so your T range is ..... 150 to 900, that's the normal range." Fuck me, that's a range of "I have so little T that all I do is sit around, zero motivation, I'm a fat manboobed sloth" to "I'm packing solid meat on at the gym, 20lbs of lean muscle over the last 3 months". So if you come in at 200 you're fucked, even though you have the T of a 30 year old bull dyke since 200 falls into the "normal" range. Doctor should be taken out back and shot at that point. Worthless. I've seen some docs try to keep patients under 500. Others try to get their patients to take a shot once every 3 weeks. The half life of TestC is 14 days, so talk about a rollercoaster... Every 7 days Each person is different and responds differently. Have to run and review a decent blood panel to see how you are reacting to what you are putting in. My doc is a buddy and he isn't all that up on stuff, I get texts from him "OMG SKY IS FALLING, your numbers are too high, you'll stroke out!!!" me: settle the fuck down, here is current research for you to read that contradicts your 40 year old studies that you're using

Compounding pharms are good for HcG as well, if you are a guy with belly fat/spare tire the Testosterone/HcG combo is a good one to drop a bunch of fat. Ordered a few times from Colin at (what used to be buyhcg123.net) https://colinfwatson.com/shop/ ymmv, I'm not a pro at this, do your own homework as well, happy to share what I've done and researched but its not an endorsement for any specific vendor. Cheaper to avoid buying the kits if you know what you are doing and have other sources for acquiring things like pins (insulin needles) and bacteriostatic water (mix for the HcG powder ampule). Lots of UGL sources for HcG as well. The girl at HGCChica.com has a ton of how-to videos as well as product for sale and offers what seems to be decent India based stuff, have never bought from her.

So IKE what are your numbers like? Why did you avoid shots? They are a much more viable approach, I've heard that drops don't have much efficacy, but how are they working for you?

Post: #920

I recently had a funny experience which showed a few points with regards to looks and age vs Game.

Me and my buddy were in a Polish club. I was talking to one blonde hottie while my buddy who just turned 40 approached two 22 year olds who were a bit overweight, but only slightly. For Polish girls they were very pretty 7-8 and already aware of their market power. As I talked to mine I was looking at what was happening over there.

At one time another guy approached one of those 22yo girls and started chatting with her. The funny thing here was that he was a split-copy of my buddy - just younger. He was fairly good-looking, had even similar facial features, 6'3 and for fuck's sake he even had a similar shirt on. So now I thought - that's funny and it seemed as if he hit it off with the dark-haired one while my buddy made progress with her blonde friend.

Later on my buddy told me that the dark-haired one was laughing at that other guy. Despite his good looks, his height and everything he missed every shit-test and the girls were making fun of him because of the stupid stuff he said. He was rather self-confident being good looking and end 20 in Poland gives you plenty of an edge. The problem of course is when those guys encounter a girl with a higher market value, then they get clobbered because their lack of Game shows quickly. So in the end my buddy got the number of the blonde one and has already been on a date with her while his younger carbon copy of looks and height got nothing. Looks and height can only get you so far. The Alpha state and Game still trumps anything in terms of female attraction.

Post: #921

So I'm sitting in a coffee shop and in walks a white guy in his forties with a Dominican woman who is on her early 20's and easily a #9. This woman was smoking hot and had a body which would stop traffic. I don't know what he does for a living, but he didn't appear to have a lot of cash, so I'm guessing his game was solid because that woman followed him around with obedience. He spoke a little broken Spanish to her, so it wasn't a case of a Mail Order Bride. Why do I bring this up? Because I want the older guys to know there is always hope.

Post: #922

Where I live the average young guy is a chode, 9 times out of 10 they are out of shape or too focused on their smartphone or PC.

This leaves the market open for the older player, now I am not saying it is easy but their is hope.

Post: #923

I just turned 40 and I don't feel too much of downturn in my game for what it was worth to begin with. I wasn't turning the same heads when I was mid 20. No. Maybe not. But I will say that I was under the idiotic precept that "once you hit 18 you hit your sexual peak". That's full load of it. Then I reached my 30's and I felt like all the girls that were game for me "had all their eggs dried up". Another complete load.

Fortunately, in my 30's I had a cab driver talk some sense into me, basically telling me that if I'm average+ and still in my 30's I can fuck any girl. That pretty much goes for any guy in their 30's. You really don't start seeing a youthful advantage until late 30s if at all. Of course it all varies but that's in my average estimate there. I'm 40 I'm only beginning to see all the idiotic limitations I put on myself and am doing the best I can to make up for it in due time. Most average fit guys can have a sexual life that extends into their 50s and 60's if they work at it.

I also came from a small town where I was pretty much top pick from any circle of females and their friends. There was no effort in my game because my reputation preceded me. I've since moved out of that chode town and honestly, I like the variety better, the competition is harder but the odds even themselves out with the increased numbers.

Bottom line: be grateful for what you got and use it while you got it.

Post: #924

I am finishing up my second trip to Russia. My next trip will be to Asia, in a few months. I will continue to report my impressions for the older player.

In no particular order my top 5 countries for the older player are:

Brazil
Colombia
DR
Ukraine
Russia

I am looking forward to hitting a few countries in Asia.

Post: #925

delete - wrong thread!