Post: #26

Keep it up man.

My only complaint is that this doesn't even belong in the newbie forum anymore.

Post: #27

(11-13-2013 11:49 PM)pointbreak Wrote:  Entertaining read man, good work.
Let me know how the suit works out... I'm a big fan but hesitant when in surf/college towns

I will put up a photo when I get the suit together. I am following McQueen's tips from his book.

I think the key here in SB will to be going out in it I will not wear a tie for sure, but my demeanor is going to have to be super fun and laid back. I will probably pre-game hard the first few times I wear it out as I have never done suit game so I am not that self concious looking motherfucker constantly adjusting his sleeves because he doesn't know how to wear a suit. I will also hit the dance floor and target girls that dress way up for the small clubs here.

We will surf soon! I am almost there. I will keep my surf updates in here too. I got a sweet new O'Neil 4/3 taped suits with O'Neil booties to match my feet were getting destroyed on rocks.

Post: #28

(11-13-2013 11:59 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  Keep it up man.

My only complaint is that this doesn't even belong in the newbie forum anymore.

Newbies hopefully will enjoy and learn. I think at some point there should be an Intermediate area. There are many things I think I want to talk about too advanced for the newbie area but would bore the veterans on the Game forum.

If anyone has questions, newbies especially I encourage you to post here in the thread. PM if you aren't the public type.

Post: #29

Drunk and high as fuck just got out of a 19 yo house party, sleepin in thebbackbof my car no duis. fuck im drunk.

Post: #30

What the fuck happened Thursday?

Sweet Jesus. Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts. Square one.

Well the day consisted of my first meeting with an RVF member, 8 approaches, 3 numbers, 2 dates pretty much back to back during the evening, and 1 house party filled with 19 yo's. Glorious.

I will write it chronologically so I don't miss things.

Campus
#90:
7.0 19yo slim long haired brunette. She was walking at me in a blue flowing dress. She looked cute and innocent. I asked for directions to a place on campus everyone should know. She was helpful and stood her good and made good eye contact. Here again the success of how nice she was shook my frame. I let her go quickly after getting the directions when I should keep rambling about anything until she turns her body posture away from me to go.

#91:
6.3 brunette 21yo, big rack, still slim. Face ok, cute. She was pushing a catering cart out of my building, I held the door open for her and started conversation as we walked together asking what the cart was for, and how nice it was she got to be out and about during her work. It is maybe a 3 minute conversation before I get her number because I have to go to a meeting. She answers my standard follow up text. I am hesitant to go after her because she is below 6.5 which is my usual standard nowadays. When you seem a girl coming from a distance many times you cannot exactly tell until you are face to face for a good 5 seconds. She could be my first bang from a student on this campus. May be worth it just to break my cherry with her and get it out of the way.

Campus with Agastya

I met Agastya during the day. He is a young player that knows what's up at an early age. I wish I had this knowledge then. He hadn't day gamed in a little bit, but dived right back in. We just walked and talked and as we saw girls we would just split and approach as we saw fit then regroup.

This was my first time ever approaching during the day with a wing around to shoot the shit. It made me approach must faster than usual - we did have a tight time constraint of a half hour together and I got in 3 approaches and 1 number.

I think today having 8 approaches was nearing the most approaches I have ever done in a day. Agastya approaches much more often, which is a great skill I lack.

I usually day game on pathways that are at slower foot traffic paces so I can easily catch up to a girl without jogging. Also it seems there is more of an isolation feel without onlookers constantly walking by. It was good to approach in a different environment than I usually do. I am terrible at big event game, simply because I like the quiet and isolation of approaching a girl.

#92:
6.0 shorty brunette did not get a great look before approaching as she was walking in the opposite direction of Agastya and I and we were talking. Something made me want to get the first one quickly.
I rounded back after her and asked for directions to a beach on campus. She kept walking along as I was walking instead of stopping which is a bad sign. I kept rambling and walking and talking about the beach until she seemed uncomfortable, nervous, walked faster, and mentioned a boyfriend. I stopped.

I am noticing many times the upper 5s and lower 6s can be less approachable in general. Maybe they are self-concious about not being hot and get more bitchy?

#93:
7.1 brunette, tall, blue eyes. I was standing still with Agastya I saw her stroll by slowly with her head tilted a bit in the air like she just didn't care, day dreamy a bit which is usually a good sign for approaching. I went direct. Excuse me, noticed you walking by, think you're cute, wanted to introduce myself. Went over very well, had a 5 minute conversation and number closed as she went to class. Even when I go direct I want the conversation to last as long as possible. She answered my follow up text asking how old I was. This is the first time I was called out on age so quickly. I was wearing a tie on campus due to work.

I am glad I am doing this all now (1500 approaches hopefully mostly on campus) because I feel even in a year or two, once over 30 day gaming on campus could get much tougher due to age. I look my age exactly so I can't lie by many years.

Text:
G: "How old are you btw?"

T: "guess "

G: "You're 50 right?"

T: "so close! 51, i eat all organic and work out everyday"

G: "No. Forreal"

T: "so serious"
T: "26"

She then asks about why I was on campus, I tell the truth, she responds with more personal questions. I haven't answered back yet. Doesn't feel good she is starting to pry so hard. We'll see.

#94:
6.6 31yo office girl, dressed well, big sunglasses, tall slender, flowing brunette. I chased her down and started conversation she stopped. I went direct almost immediately after asking if she worked at the university. She was positive to it and we chatted because she was also somewhat new to town. Then she drops the BF thing into the conversation and I say "why are we even talking then?" playfully. She says it is hard to be new in town she could give me a tour. She pushes her number onto me I don't really want it. Should I follow up? Seems like an attention tease.

Agastya and I parted ways, I had to mack on food, he kept approaching.

Campus Alone Again
#95:
6.4 20yo Asian girl. She was walking towards me, I asked for directions. Her English is lacking, almost all Asians on campus are foreign exchange. It seems like a good thing on the surface, but I often seem them walking in groups speaking in their native language with other exchange students from the same country. Some Asian girls kill for white guys but here in CA since I been her it seems they are the most white washed ones that already have friends from many races. Girls that seem like that hang out with only Asians and speak their native tongue in public often seem to have no interest in me.

Campus at Night
#96:
6.8 19yo half white half Asian girl. I ask for directions to a food place she is walking towards, and that everyone knows about. She gives me directions and is surprisingly warm for how dark and sketchy it could be on campus at that point. I again had my frame shaken by success, and I could have kept speaking to her. As long as they keep eye contact and do not move their body posture to start leaving, keep going. I let it go, was debating chasing her down to do a direct right after an indirect which I have started seeing a pattern in me doing.

I do an indirect, have a good interaction. Let her go for 5 seconds. Run catch up and say how cool she was and that we should talk sometime.

Observation I am finding the more time I hit on and spend time with girls 18-19 I see a large visible difference between them and the 21-23 yos I usually go after more. The same way I see a big difference between 25-27 and 21-23. I hope this does not permanently alter my tastes to only 18-19 yos as I have mentioned before my timeline to get them with somewhat ease and without tons and tons of approaches is getting short. Maybe I should have been blissful and stayed away from them hahah.


First Date of the Night - Some Girly Cupcake/Coffee place story to be continued...

Post: #31

I had a solid time gaming with you, it was good to meet another RVF'er in person.

Post: #32

First Date of the Night - Some Girly Cupcake/Coffee :

Backstory:
Halloween Day I was dressed in a semi furry animal costume on campus. 3 different girls called out from a distance they liked my costume. I approached them all. 2 had boyfriends. One was with her 2 girlfriends walking at me here is how it went down.

*50 feet away
G: "Hey nice costume"

T: "Hey thanks, do you know what I am?"

G: "A fox?"

T: "Yeah close a wolf, but whatever haha"
T: "Yeah I like this costume my friend made the tail"
T: "And the hood is super soft"

G's friend: "Oh really? Hahaha"

T: "Yeah come feel it"

G's friends comes up to me and rubs my front lapel piece

G's friend: "Oh it is soft! hhahaha"

T: "So where did you girls come from looks like you are ready to run"

G: "We just came from the rec center"

T: "Cool so what are you gonna be for Halloween? Are you going to have 3 costumes, one for each day?"

G: "Haha maybe. I think we are all going to be gypsies"

*They are all now 10ft past me and sort of have been gliding away... I call after them

T: "So are any of you single?"

*They all break out giggling"

G: "Hahaha yeah....."

T: "Let's talk sometime then who is single?"

G's friends hip bump her towards me a few feet we are still a good 10-15ft apart.

T: "Come here..." while motioning with my hand

T: "Hi I'm Travesty *handshake*

G: "Hi I'm G!" *She looks really shy and nervous*

*Hand her my phone
T: "Here let's talk soon"

Fast forward to a failed weekend date where I was going to pick her up from her place (she has no car 18yo in the dorms), she countered with having too much homework and wanted to do a quick dinner date near campus. I rejected that and said I'll get back at you next week. Next week comes and I call. She answers and is sick. Trying to recover still wants to do something tame. I give in because I fear too many weeks will go by without contact, better to lay some sober charm on then nothing. Hence an early evening coffee date.

At the coffee date I show up late and text her I am on my way as I am already late (thanks McQueen). She is of course late too and texts this. She gets there and texts me, I wait a few minutes before I walk in. Funny thing I had a 5 minute interaction with her during that day I met her. I walk in the place and make eye contact with a cute brunette with many blonde highlights not sure if it is her, she had her hair in a ponytail no makeup before and there were 3 girls together so it was hard to remember. I on the other hand had on a ridiculous costume and hadn't shaved for 5 days so I looked much different.

I go back out because I am not sure I saw her in there and text what are you wearing. Well of course it ends up being the girl I had eye contact and a smile with. I sit down and we chat about how we met and how different we look. She has on a floral dress with sandals, make up, hair down, ready to impress. She is cute tall slender and goofy. 7.1 18yo 5'10" really slender light brunette, but with tons of bright blonde highlights from the sun, hazel eyes, long flowing hair, goofy cute smile, nice girl. I eventually get a coffee to go and say we should go for a walk. It is night time, so we agree to take the long walk back to drop her off at her dorms.

I must mention I have a joint in the left breast pocket of my jacket and 3 airplane bottles of Smirnoff in my right in case she would be down with either. She isn't a weed smoker and is not ready to drink yet.

On the walk back I am sure to show her I came ready to party with one of the Smirnoff bottles after she said she is saving up to party tomorrow with her friends. She has a terrible cough all during the date. I say she is like a poor little orphan girl and keep ribbing her about how attractive the cough is.

I am running out of ideas because this needs to get physical fast before I drop her off. Lame as it is I remember the silly "twirl her" in the streets day game move I have seen. We talked about dance and how much we both love it, I showed her some of my salsa on a sidewalk, she dug it, then I say what the fuck and go for the lame Disney partner dance alone on the sidewalk thing. She digs that I can do simple partner dance. There is no music playing. I am sober. It is strange to me even but she loves it so who cares. I pull her close after a spin once but don't feel the kiss yet.

On we walk.

200 yards later we close on her dorms. I say one last spin. I pull her in and go in slowly for the kiss. She is surprised and hesitates, but then gives in for a simple kiss. Her body is telling me she is not ready to have it go farther than this. I end by making fun of her more for being a dork, she leaves to the dorms with a smile.

She asked my age on the way back, I say 26 instead of guess? Not sure why I chose this, just felt more natural. She said she guessed I was that age, and seemed totally cool with it.

Second Date of the Night: The Bar Stop and the House Party followed by Pissing, Vomiting, and Sleeping in a Parking Lot
story to be continued...

Post: #33

Night time, sidewalk in my neighborhood
#97:
6.7 26yo 5'4" blonde blue eyes? Not sure it was dark. Could be hotter or less hot. I was about to get into my friend's car to go to the bar and she just walked by me on the sidewalk, there is no one else around. I see she is attractive and wearing some sort of black go-go dancer like boots and tights. I do a quick direct, saying I am on my way out to the bar. She tells me where she works (a posh bar nearby) and said I should drop by and say hi in a half hour when she is back at work, she is on break between shifts walking home. I could have pushed for the number, but I had a strong instinct it would be a flake as I would come off too needy for the number after she just had given me a personal invitation to come say hello.

I may go say hi to her at the bar one night, I did not make it to see her last night. It would be nice even if I just befriended her as making "industry" friends results in cheaper drinks at many places once you get enough of them.

Post: #34

Bad night tonight.

Drove for 5 hours today. Got back to go out 90 minutes before closing. Went out under-dressed, un-showered, and tired. I did a mini pre-game real fast to boost me but it did not help much.

Met friends a pool bar, pussied out on approach an 8 and most likely a 7 with easy approaches. Also had a chance to come in and approach another 7+ that a friend opened and waited too long. Was just in the wrong mood to game. Stuck it out though and ended up leaving to a club with more prospects.

The 8 blonde librarian chick I have SNL'd with and hooked up with again was there waiting in line with a mixed group of guy and girl friends. I went in first to see prospects as it is a club that is easy to hide away in. I was wearing a hat and hoodie so it was easy for me to evade her. Eventually though it did shake my frame she was there as I was paranoid she would see me succeed or fail with other girls and it could push her out of what I hope is still harem status.

I went to leave the club because I was not feeling it. I decided to walk the way that she may notice me to see her reaction as I was leaving. She noticed me and gave me a big hug and introduced me to her friend. I asked if she wanted to dance she said she just came from the dance floor and was cooling off, she asked what I was doing later, I said I was hanging with friends. She let out that her girl friend there was someone she hadn't seen in forever and was going to go back to her place tonight. She kind of just ejected to the dance floor with her friend as they held hands together once our little conversation reached an end. I knew I was going to have to work too hard to peel her from her friends just for a repeat bang and it would look try hard so I made one more round and saw her and her friends standing in the back of the club. I ignored them looking for easy girls, then left without saying goodbye to reset my frame. I am wondering if her seeing me helped or hurt me with her harem status still....

At the next bar after that coincidence I saw another girl that was a spitting image of the 18 yo Coffee date girl I listed early. I was telling myself it couldn't be. I was a little buzzed but I doubted that girl had a legit fake ID and I didn't bother approaching her.

I then went to a 2nd club and hit the dance floor in closing minutes. Some honies danced near me but they were into there own thing.

On the street I did a pathetic street game approach to get one in at least:

#98:
Two girls walking at me after closing time. Both most likely 7.5+ in their late 20s or early 30s. One may have been an 8 it was dark. I stated I was new to town and are there any good bars still open? They pointed me to one nearby as they kept walking so no room to carry further. At least I tried a hot set and not a fugly.

I then stayed outside a bar nearest to my house trying some last man standing sneaky fucker game. There was a 7 late 20s hippy looking chick with a group of 7 or 8 people smoking cigarettes, I was hoping for an IOI to go in as I wasn't feeling it. Didn't get one and just went home.

My conclusions are being in the right state before going out is crucial, looking and feeling your best is crucial. Having the right amount of alcohol that favors you is crucial.

My day game outshines my night game. Maybe it is because I am doing both at the same time and do mostly day game that my night game approaches struggle. My best night game is just hitting the dance and letting loose or running into a girl that smiles at me and dragging her to the nearby dance floor.

I can be sober in the day and direct open girls all day. At night if I see two girls leaning against a bar I have a tough time just going to say hi. My energy is lower at night than day time unless I have enough alcohol.

Roosh has mentioned struggles when practicing day and night game at the same time. I would like to work around this haha.

I really just need to go up say hi and introduce myself if I have nothing else to say.

I need to get comfortable doing normal bar approaches instead of strictly dance floor type approaches. I also need to get more comfortable at night without having tons of drinks in me. I think part of that is just experience of being out more and be willing to play last man standing game.

Also I think day game is better than night game unless you are in the highest end venues in the highest end cities with a bankroll and some Lock Down going on. I just get so disappointed when I see a lot of girls out at night once they get under florescent light. Day game they can't hide in shadows.

Post: #35

I need to knock the pussy off the pedestal - I am starting to put it too high. I am starting to put too much pressure and importance on closing my pipeline prospects, building a harem, and approaching like a machine all at once. I felt in a better place when I first moved here and saw it as fun and not a job. I need to get in the gym and surf more often and I have been smoking way too much weed because of the girls I have been hanging out with recently.

I need to get in my approaches while having no outcome thoughts or cares about the rest of the chicks.

I almost want to dump my pipeline and do a cleanse to start from square one, but that would be foolish, what I need is a few days off to regroup and make simple approaches.

Post: #36

Worked my pipeline tonight, went over a list of 10 girls + outlier prospects. This is twice as large of a pipe I am used to dealing with. Also with the majority of these girls I feel there is a 1 or 2 week window to close the deal therefore there is pressure to move things forward before it becomes an awkward month+ without seeing each other. I am feeling sloppy because this is more macro management than I have ever been used to from live approach girls. Internet girls I feel that you can string things out for over a month and it's fine so you can manage more girls. Girls you only have 5-10 minutes with need to see you soon in my opinion.

I spent 45 minutes just going through and updating my task manager app to keep all my shit straight. Of the 6 or 7 phone calls I made I believe 4 picked up.

Grocery Store: The grocery store was dead empty. Even the guys' girlfriends that were couples shopping were beat.
I don't have the coin to shop at Whole Foods or the hot girl grocery stores, but the generic ones usually are still flush with hot girls. I would go to WF just to troll for ass, but my time is already stretched, I feel like I will be doing that A LOT when I am older.

There was a 7.5-8 bag girl in my lane, this has happened before. I am not sure how to game her infront of checkout clerks and patrons. I think a great sneaky fucker tactic would be to tell her directly that I just suffered a weight lifting injury to both shoulders and if she would be kind enough to follow me to the parking lot and help unload my shopping bags. If she goes out you can number close.


#99:
6.2 blonde, thin, 5'7" 30 yo - She was milling around the same aisle as me for far too long in isolation for me not to approach. I was not digging her sexually even from afar but I had to do it. Face and sex vibe was just not there. She was shy and reserved as well. My dick was bored with my mind was talking to her. I asked her about specialty groceries in the area that may be better than a big generic store. She didn't know any, and was just boring. I could have pushed for a number, but I didn't even like talking to her.

On a better note I haven't smoked weed for 2 days and I can feel my mood rising as well as my sex drive to tap this pipeline good. Real good.

Post: #37

Mad props. I live in Santa Barbara and know what kind of pedestal you have to deal with. Out of towners are an obvious hit but locals take some maneuvering to get in with

Post: #38

(11-18-2013 06:29 PM)Esoteric94 Wrote:  Mad props. I live in Santa Barbara and know what kind of pedestal you have to deal with. Out of towners are an obvious hit but locals take some maneuvering to get in with

Thanks. Agastya, quino16, and pointbreak are here too. Ensam is a veteran, but moved. We got a little SB army on our hands.

Well back to business.

I got my Combantant Gentleman suit to the tailor today, will have it back next week for testing. I really need to check out some of the posh hotel bars in SB and try to nail some vacationing rich chicks (many times foreigners). I think the suit may come in handy there, past just the normal clubs.

I focused on work today, no approaches sadly, but I did get work done which I needed to. Once my work game is in order in a couple games I will probably amp up my approaches to catch up. Also was out of town part of this weekend and started getting sick.

I am having a texting problem with Approach #86, which added to the what to text next thread here. Any help?

May have a date with Approach #91 tomorrow night. She is saying she has a paper due the next day and can't stay out late. She is a sorority chick I found out, but thank God she has a car. Is still under 21.... We will see if can get creative and get her drunk somehow.

Still working the pipeline more tonight. May go hit the street right now just to get #100 in.

Post: #39

Second Date of the Night: The Bar Stop and the House Party followed by Pissing, Vomiting, and Sleeping in a Parking Lot

So on I went from my little sober Disney PG-13 twirl, dance, and light kissing an 18 yo outside her dorm straight to the nearest bar to prepare with cheap alcohol for my next date.

I arrive at a local bar and make quick friends with the bartender dude. I talk about how I got to SB and how long he's been here etc... crazy stories and all. He hooks me up with a free drink. 2 girls come in and he tells them to sit next to me. He hooks us all up with free round of shots including himself. Love this dude, best wingman in history. I number close the girl sitting next to me, most likely it is going no where though, we will see. I am buzzed ready to go pick up this 19 yo from her place.


Backstory:

On campus I did a direct approach on her during the day. She was in a hurry to get to class but told me it was bold and she liked it. We spent about 2 weeks trying to nail down a day, this was it. Initially we were to meet at a public corner, but the day of she said just swing by her place. Due to the nature of the area I am guessing she will have roommates, hopefully a single one that is not home....

So I just got off this first date and now buzzed from the bar. I get to her place late on purpose. I find it easily.

As I walk to the door through the windows I see there is a good handful of chicks in there.

As I get to the door she comes up smiles and gives me a big hug. She has me come sit at the kitchen table. She lets out she has 5 other roommates. They are all out in the common area around the kitchen doing their thing so they can all hear and see us talking up close. Well there goes easy isolation, logistics to my place are screwed right now.

I sit back and just open conversation with all the girls that are around the table. They actually all seem very cool. With 6 19yo's in a room with a stranger I was expecting lots of shit tests, but they were all fun. The girl and I go get some food that sucks and come back. No escalation yet just conversation the night is young still.

She ends up inviting me to a beer pong house party where teams are 1 girl 1 guy each. All these college kids are her friends, more girls than guys, good party. We took a handful of pregame shots before getting there so I am buzzing. I am self-concious the first 5 minutes there being older, before I realized no one gave a fuck. I of course was partnered with the girl and we won 3 in a row. I still have that joint in my front breast pocket and I found out during food this girl isn't a smoker either. So I light it up with one of the college guys that lives at the place to hopefully spread a good mood and lock it down a bit being the stranger and all.

The party ran out of beer and we had to go back to her place to get cash for more which was only a 2 block walk away.

At her place I went for the makeout in the kitchen, solid little makeout, hands all over her, and I drag her towards her room and she gently resists saying we'd get back to it after the tournament. I am cross-faded at this point which is my own fault. If I was more aware I wouldn't have made a rationalization that we needed to get back to the party quickly to deliver the money. This is where I lost the potential bang. I should have been much more aggressive and even told her to take shots with me as soon as we arrived then did everything in my power to get her on the couch or to a bed. I did not and we went back to the party.

At the party I kept rubbing her back and ass during our last game. She got a phone call from a friend that was having some mental emergency which ended the game. I walked her home, took a piss, came out and all the roommates were in the house again with a couple of them sitting next to her and consoling her about this friend's problem/emergency. Gave her a hug and she went in for a quick kiss goodbye.

I am now drunk and head back to my car in a parking lot. I sleep wearily in the back of my car. I end up pissing a few times in parking lot stairwell over the night and puke in the trash can. I wake up to the sun rising as my alarm goes off to get ready for work. I pace the parking lot still unaware if I am drunk or just extremely tired. I rock back and forth like an elephant that is depressed, anxious, and been caged for too long at the zoo. I get in my car and have one of the worst driving experiences of my life. It felt like a terrible arcade game put on impossible mode that I wanted no part of. The 10 minute drive felt like an hour+.

In sum, the party was awesome. Making out was great. I was too drunk and did not push hard enough, at least my player instinct went hard for that makeout at the right time. Sadly I think I may have lost this one before getting the bang. We'll see.

Post: #40

This is good stuff, man. Just want you to know I'm enjoying reading it and it's motivating me.

Post: #41

As I have gamed over the years I find that I have upward and downward swings as does anyone. I do find as I get more experienced it seems the swings can become more frequent and go in spurts. Like banging 3 new girls in a week then no new girls for the next 2 weeks. It still seems though the highs can be very high and the lows still very low even though for shorter periods.

As Roosh once stated once a player has had enough women at a certain pace, he just cannot put up with not getting laid after a smaller and smaller amount of time.

Right now I feel like I was about to crest to a swinging high on this pipeline last week and now it just busted and I can't get any of the water out before it's done.

The 18 yo from the coffee date gave me the nice guy text. I knew beforehand doing a sober coffee date was bad. I thought my golden opportunity to meet was fading so against my judgment I did not cancel. I brought concealed liquor and weed in-case did not get to use them. The 19 yo from the party has not answered my text for over a day so that looks like shit. Both cases are poor judgments on my part, coffee date with a freshman girl ready to party is an uphill battle I lost. The 19 yo I needed to push harder for the bang.

I have a nagging feeling the Blonde Librarian may also be out of the deck soon, although that is still going in communication.

Porch Girl did respond to a sexual text after hanging out with her 3 times with no action. I did get free weed and an awesome free yoga lesson, plus it is fun hanging with her. I had to do something to swing the ball quickly away from the friendzone, and for whatever reason to go for action on her seemed like it could be scaring the cat and making things awkward before she wanted sex. She had rebuked me before for moving too fast after our initial bang... I think I have a small chance at banging again which I want to do mostly for her ridiculous yoga body and the pure challenge of banging her then starting from scratch, which sounds and most likely is - retarded.

Another girl I number closed recently last day cancelled on some plans due to school work supposedly.

More horseshit. This pipeline has a curse! Can't pin point what exactly is slowing me down yet. If I create a new pipeline this size and cannot capitalize I have to look really hard at what the problem may be. For now I have faith it may just be the Numbers Game at play.

Day gamed with Agastya again today for a short period. I actually number closed a girl he knows because I saw her at our meeting spot before we met lol.

Campus
#100:
6.7 20 yo 5'5" thin brunette. Little bit of a bitchy face, but somewhat helpful when I asked for directions. She was just distracted or did not think I was attractive enough to knock her into my frame. Good to break 100. I saw her walk past and then walked fast to catch up to her then come in from the right distance and angle from the side as not to startle her. I am getting the distance and voice volume down so most girls are not startled, stop, and give me full attention which is good.

#101:
6.5 Asian 20yo 5'3" thin, glasses, dorky cute. I asked about a building under construction within eye sight and what is being added. She happens to be into green buildings and environmental science heavily, she goes on and on and I just banter about that acting like it is very interesting. I get a number but I have strong player instincts this girl would take the Long Game to get. I don't see getting this girl alone and drunk without a ton of work, and she is not hot enough for that.

#102:
6.3 Asian 20yo 5'4". Caught along side her, had her earphones in. I am getting good at getting girls attention and not caring if they have earphones, most have been polite and will talk. Asked her directions, even though she is a 3rd year she knows campus for shit. My dick was bored when I looked at her. Wasn't worth the effort.

#103:
6.1 white brunette 20yo hippy girl. She was alone walking slowly at me making eye contact, just had to stop her. Also asked her for directions. She didn't know shit. She kept planted and faced me. I could have talked about Astrology or whatever else, but her teeth were funky and she looked a little unkempt, but still an able and fit bodied 20 yo is hard not to take a stab at, but fuck it. I guess my standards are still temporarily elevated.

I did miss a great opportunity on a 7.5+ little Latina honey strolling by in white skin tight jeans (my favorite). I should have just been ballsy marched up to her direct and charming. I could swear my T levels rose just glancing at her. I need to approach those girls with more aggression.

We will see how long what may be my temporary raise in standards lasts. Going without sex for a few weeks may end up making me dive for low 6s to get back on the horse. Time will tell, and I am going to keep working this pipeline and squeeze a diamond out of coal.

Post: #42

(11-20-2013 12:41 AM)Art Pimp Wrote:  This is good stuff, man. Just want you to know I'm enjoying reading it and it's motivating me.

Great to know, not many people have added to this thread as I have seen in many other approach threads. I am not sure why, as I would love constructive criticism, but as long as the thread gets views I know someone is benefiting from it.

Post: #43

(11-20-2013 12:57 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 12:41 AM)Art Pimp Wrote:  This is good stuff, man. Just want you to know I'm enjoying reading it and it's motivating me.

Great to know, not many people have added to this thread as I have seen in many other approach threads. I am not sure why, as I would love constructive criticism, but as long as the thread gets views I know someone is benefiting from it.

Hey man I'm having a blast reading this thread too, please do keep at it. One thing I have noticed especially from your last pipeline-collapse post is you seem to be really harsh on yourself.

I think if you took it easier it would pay dividends for your game too, you're racking up good numbers bro you should be happy with the results so far and take it from there.

Post: #44

Texted a girl from pipeline to meet Thursday. She said sure before 3:30. That would mean a 30 minute lunch coffee or walk date for my schedule. I fear these Disney dates as they never pan out for a later bang for me ever. I also think about the golden week or two after getting a number. My instincts tell me to pass on this. Not sure if she is the type of chick to drink alone with a stranger on the first meet, so she may only agree to a Disney first meet at a later time anyways.

Advice?

Post: #45

Free flowin' shit tonight 'cause I am drunk and a little high.

So.

Campus
Approach #104:
6.3 Persian short slim. She was walking at me and I asked to directions to Place X. She was nice, but was on her way somewhere obviously. The conversation was short. If a chick is in a high foot traffic area, or is obviously on her way somewhere with purpose I think direct works much better. You have to hit them over the head that this is a pick up or their attention wanes quickly.

No one gave me advice on the last post so I sacked up and made my own decision I went for the Disney Date today. I decided to go for it due to Thanksgiving break being next week and knowing there is a Golden Week or Two of Oppportunity especially with young college chicks getting tons of attention to get laid after first getting the number.

She is listed at Approach #85.

I met her at lunch today for a quick half hour lunch date for a walk along the water. She was there waiting before me. I got a text a few minutes after we were to meet. Good thing for newbs, be near the meet place for a first date, wait for them to text, gets them worried.

She had long hair flowing, last time her hair was in some sort of bunn that made it look like she had medium or short length hair. Great surprise. She is a 2nd year maybe 19 yo. Bubbly, sweet, and of course FOREIGN (mash this into newbies heads). She moved from Mexico 6 years ago, so her heritage is growing up in Mexico with some Brasiliera(sp?) culture thrown in.

We go walking and she laughs at every joke, is smiling the whole time, follow my lead. I feel I am not gaming.

Is this a joke? Some sick trick? No it is pure unadulterated femininity showing through.

I have previously banged and dated 2 foreign born and raise girls (China and Indonesia). There is a huge difference. You feel as though a cameraman will pop out and say you are on some prank TV show as the girl acts so sweet kind and without ego or force.

I have a great time with her though she is but 19. She is a biochem major taking a tough course load. She is smart and athletic. 5'3", no fat, slender, feminine, but plays sports and is able to surf.

She blow Ameri-skanks out of the water.

For a Disney Date it goes well. I do not really have the time or comfort to build kino especially sober in broad daylight, with no drugs or alcohol.

Lots of personal questions back and forth. What is totally obvious is American girl conversation = 90% 10% you EASILY. Forgein girls they cast a spotlight on you by asking follow up personal questions like they actually care and it is more like 70% them 30% you which feels strange when you mostly deal with American chicks.

So we end the date the with a quick hug, I say we should get a drink this weekend she seems cool with it, we will see....



Later in the night right before I was planning on going out I got a call from Porch Girl after inviting her to sushi earlier in the afternoon. She wants to meet. At this point I was not planning on even seeing her. She had her phone in a locker during work so she couldn't respond.

A few days ago she gave me an awesome 1 hour yoga lesson at her house. Then we smoked her weed and drank cheap wine. It was nice. She has a perfect yoga body.

So I text the next morning after that:

T: barely could keep my hands off you. had a sex dream about you last night

*much later that day
PG: I still don't know how the appropriate response

T: "sounds hot, i'm coming over"

PG: That's definitely one response..... was the yoga or [movie we watched together last time we hung out]?

T: you in tight clothes makes me want to grab you and pin you down simple as that (trolling for a sex response at this point)

PG: What about when I'm in let's sleep for eternity mode?

*next morning:

T: i'd still do you maybe not with as much excitement though

LOL


She immediately text back:

PG: Ok line crossed. You barely know me. And you sound like an ass

Whelp sounds like I am doing well LOL.

Anyways she meets me for drinks tonight. Sober together it sucks, when she gets 2 drinks in her and some weed we have a blast every time. Strange dynamic.

So initially it is a little awkward, then once the drinks come we are ok. We go back to her place to get a half joint before she meets some friends.

Smoke the joint in the car everything is great. I go for the makeout move. It works we make out at a stop light. Funny I already banged her almost a month and a half ago and I am working on making out? I must like the challenge.

After her makeout and she drops me off I trudge to the bars.


Bar
Approach #105:
6.7 brunette and 7.1 blonde in their early to mid 20s standing near the bar in the half emtpy bar/club. I say I am new and ask about the bar scene, this bar, best days etc... conversation goes for about 5 minutes and they excuse themselves. They were polite, nice, and not bitchy at all which I appreciate.

Approach #106:
After I left that bar I saw 2 girls on the street. Both late 20s. Again a high 6 brunette with a mid 7 blonde now. I again used the new guy routine asking for a good bar/club right now that had people. They said they were headed home, and made suggestions. The only hope is they invite you with to check out a place.

At this point I am proud I am approach pairs solo that are of decent quality which is building my confidence.


Club

Man, so I arrive at the club. I have the bouncer on semi lock down. There are multiple bars inside, at one bar, one of the female bartenders has seen me. I have tried to lock her down as well. Though, on Halloween weekend, while I was in my animal costume (she did not recognize me) I asked if she was supposed to be roadkill. Her makeup was on her forehead and looked like a tire-tread mark. It obviously was not after she gave me the "talk to the hand" expression and was really pissed off and would not serve me.

This time though she was sweet and didn't recognize my Halloween bad-mouthing costumed self.

At that bar a birthday group of chicks comes up. Low and behold the birthday girl taps me on the shoulder and starts conversation and ends up buying me a free shot.

Approach # 107:
6.2 Indian 5'5" mostly slim decent C cup tits. Alright face. WB. Definitely WB. I also soon find out she is an out of towner only her for a few days...

After the shot we go dance. She is immediately into grinding her ass on my cock while pushing my hands to squeeze her tits. I later go for the makeout and get rejected!!!! She doesn't do that on the first date. Is this a fucking date!?

She doesn't do that on the first date! But of course I am allowed to grind her pussy through a 1/4 of fabric between us and squeeze her tits in public.

***Good neg on her: She was a racist for asking me if I like or can dance to rap. I went into a tirade about how White Guys are looked down on for lack of rythmn and passion in dance etc... it put her back on her heels for sure.

Funny I run into the South African girl I banged not long ago (my last notch and lay). I go to say hi, maybe to see if she will text for sex later, no go she is polite but uninterested. Sluts! Gentleman means nothing! Onto the next cock for them!

Back to Indian Birthday Girl. I get her number before leaving.

I pass her friends and her a little later in the club right before I leave and she gives me a playful spank goodbye.

She then texts me: No hello?

Right before this I make a last lap around the club.

I spot Trashy Redhead Hostess from a few hours earlier in the night when I was on a Date 4 (post-bang) with Porch Girl. Porch Girl joked about what a slut she looked like. My boner cares not for social shame on sluts. She did look slutty. Still a very solid high 6 or low 7 and you know shes DTF hard.

Well on the date earlier with Porch Girl I was merely checking her out hard. Now solo at the club I could act....

I saw her pass and told her I saw her at the bar I was at with Porch Girl. Told her I was new etc..., but noticed her.

She was somewhat polite for an obvious club slut and talked in her 5 girl-friend circle.

Approach #108:
I was about to leave and pushed my way into her circle of chicks put my hand on her upper arm to grab her attention. It took longer than expected. She was being bitchy. Told her we should talk sometime, since I am leaving, tried to hand her my phone. She said she hangs out here alot, she'll see me around. My face says fuck this. And I leave still feeling good about 2 dates in one day, 1 makeout, and 1 grind session. Plus I got in some Night Game approaches.

Indian Birthday Girl calls me as I sit her typing to tell me where she's at. She is not leaving her friends, and won't kiss on first meet after sloppy and deep grinding and tit squeezing. Fuck that. Bed time.

Hakuna Matada

Post: #46

Got the surf rack this morning, one step closer. Wet suit, rack, now I can borrow my friend's boards, then I will have my own.

Campus
#109:
6.1 20yo blonde, 5'6". Good body, nice legs. Blonde hair, blue eye. Not quite California Blonde, but trying to be. Face was okay still WB mostly due to youth.

She was standing in line at the cafe as I was sitting and I noticed her make eye contact more than once as I got up. I waited for her to be done getting rung up and she left the cafe. I followed her out to the sidewalk and approached her from the side. I decided to go direct because it looks like she was on her way somewhere. These girls aren't in the mood to stop for long so I believe you have to test how attracted to you they are immediately.

Many of the DayGame.com or whatever street videos with the Yad Stop and other things I notice all do some what of a direct approach. They may not say "hey you're hot" but they do very much make a girl on her way somewhere come to a standstill in Street Approaches and then say they noticed something about them. To me this isn't be purely direct, but it is much more direct than indirect. I follow this style as well if a girl seems to be on mission to get somewhere.

I ended up going direct on her, she did not seem enthusiastic, but easily gave me her phone number, no response on the text follow up.

This has maybe been said before but I notice 7+'s on average respond much better to direct approaches than lower 6's. I want to say this because I think lower 6's know they are pump and dump targets in their subconcious mind and are very weary of a confident guy coming up and being upfront with them. It scares them easily. Hotter girls really seem to enjoy it more and know they are not pump and dump material so it does not offend them.

First Club
I had my friend with me that I am teaching game to. He is very social and has lots of girls as friends (too bad none of them are attractive, but at least he has social acumen from it) so is good at being disarming and has crowd control skills. He starts dancing with some 5.3 shorter, little extra weight brunette in a dress. I take on dancing with the blonde 5.4 crazy friend I want no part of to be a good wing. After awhile I get tired and sit down and try to give my friend hand gestures to say go for the fucking makeout already.

He sees me but cannot understand. I get up and go whisper in his ear, turn her around and make out with her right now!

He does it with success. Later in the night the friend is getting needy and trying to cockblock because I am not giving her enough attention. There is no way I am banging this chick or keeping her under control the entire night. I take her away to dance more which I want no part of so my friend can get the number from his girl which he does with success. I tell him we can leave or if he wants to really imprint his presence on his chick go for one last hard quick make out to stick out in her mind. He goes for it but it is a Disney kiss back from her.

#110:
At the club there was a 7.3 (it was dark I was drunk I am hoping lol) tall brunette with a more voluptuous shape, but not fat at all. I dug it, but she was in a circle of 5 girlfriends and I was planning to go in and drag her off. I am terrible at crowd control and am trying to learn this from my friend as I bestow the rest of game on him.

Of course they are getting ready to leave, so I go direct and just try for a number and ask where she is going next. No dice. Soft rejection with a smile from her. This of course was a poor approach, but I need to stay warm and keep going for it when I get the chance. They were maybe 3 or 4 girls worth swooping in the venue so my choices were limited, plus I was ensnared in playing wingman to a crazy attention whore 5.

Next Club
#111:
It is getting near closing time. I see a girl alone on the dance floor looking bored, like she wants to get in on the fun and dance. 6.5 brunette, blue eyed 31yo. Good body. Definitely WB, and harem add. I go up and tell her lets dance and nod to the dance floor right next to us with a smile. She rejects. Lonely bored looking 31 yo hitting the wall thinks she has tons of options. Love it. This is why I am growing to completely ignore older women more and more as well as same aged women.

Not a great night, but I still go out there, it was slow all around town.

Pipeline is still being a bitch to me, I need new prospects.

On a different note, I come from being a heavy online gamer. I now look at the apps and have almost no patience to sit and look at girls photos and their often retarded text descriptions.

I think that time can be used for self improvement and feel a nagging feeling of guilt whenever I go on these apps.

If I did not have the city and logistics I do though I would go crawling back quickly.

Post: #47

Have been slowly getting out of my rut. I need to follow my instincts and think from a strong game perspective.

Ways I have been doing this is to focus more on getting new prospects rather than relying on my pipeline.

Still got one girl somewhat interested in the pipeline. Otherwise, it is on to new prospects.

Campus
#112: 6.7 18yo short brunette - asked her for directions, she didn't know where it was, didn't seem interested in an interaction.

#113: 6.3 brunette 21yo - I was walking along the same path as her and asked for directions to the gym, she was heading in the same direction. I often ask for directions while walking next to a girl that is going the same direction anyways as they sometimes invite me to join and they lead me along. Small instant date. She invites me along, but is wary to make eye contact and seems very introverted. She did ask me personal questions including where I was from and answered my questions about the gym, but I really wasn't feeling it. Dick was bored, and she was awkward. Couldn't imagine a date with her. Not even sure if I developed enough comfort to get a number anyway, but fuck it.

#114: 7.0 5'4" 22yo Indian girl. Long sheen black hair in a pony tail, in shape, wearing the yoga pants and bright Nike running shoes. She is walking toward me about 50 yards away.

This is my favorite type of approach. She is walking slowly and there is almost no one else around around. As she nears about 10 feet away at an angle I stop her with "Excuse me".

I can see her eyes, they are a piercing dark green/hazel. Boner hurdle has been hurdled. From her outfit and where she is walking it is a good time to ask about the gym. She is of course going to the gym and invites me to walk with her. She asks personal questions immediately. I find out where she lives... not in IV fuck yes. And is a first year grad student new to town so she can drink legally and doesn't know many people, amazing. She does not have a car which can be good or bad. Great if I have to pick her up because I can escalate faster on a first date I feel if I pick girls up. It feels more commanding than just meeting somewhere. She called herself a reformed hippy and had a colorful sunset back tattoo peaking out of her sports top. This girl must like sex.

We get a 5 minute walk in and I get the number before getting to the gym front doors. She responded to my follow up text to get my number in her phone. I have better hopes for this lead.

In other news a girl I banged this last summer is driving down state and wants to stop by to bang this weekend. I am hoping banging her, plus some luck with leads will put my confidence levels back where they were around Halloween a month ago. That was a great place to be.

Post: #48

Good thread dude! Keep at it I'm enjoying following this.

Post: #49

(11-20-2013 12:57 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 12:41 AM)Art Pimp Wrote:  This is good stuff, man. Just want you to know I'm enjoying reading it and it's motivating me.

Great to know, not many people have added to this thread as I have seen in many other approach threads. I am not sure why, as I would love constructive criticism, but as long as the thread gets views I know someone is benefiting from it.

It would be like telling Mozart how to play the violin. you're killing it, maybe not as far as getting laid right now but in terms of what your body must be learning.

The only thing I think you might be screwing up is getting and appearing so drunk the chicks are afraid you won't even remember them. If you are really, really detached they maybe pick up on that.

Post: #50

Sidebar:

Met a girl of one of my male friends yesterday. We immediately talked about Red Pill issues and game because my male friend is learning the ropes from me.

This girl is very intelligent otherwise my friend wouldn't have her as a close friend.

She immediately and strongly agreed on all issues.

She even completely agreed from sleeping with so many guys (24 guys and she is 27yo 6.0) that it has crushed her soul and instead she has gotten a cat. She said most of the damage was done between 18-24yo. I told her it seemed harder to have a true fuck buddy these days (where you could have a little genuine fun and actually somewhat care, rather than purely business like a hooker) and even girls are once or twice and done and move onto the next guy. She applauded that saying it was great girls were using guys for sex.

I told her it seemed even harder than 5 years ago to make any sort of real human connection with a girl because she is so busy with school, career, partying on the carousel, attention whore etc...

EVEN though she is very intelligent I would say in the top 1 or 2% of girls and knows logic and what time it is, she still turned her advice into what I was personally doing wrong. Even after agreeing with how ruthless the dating scene is these days.

I told her that her advice is like giving me a small shield against a tidal wave and that it is better I just turn around on a surf board and ride the wave than fight it. Again she strongly agreed.

She still for one second did not say that this could be a problem at large with society or all women. It could just not sink in. If it cannot sink in with a girl of her caliber of intelligence (who also gave up and got a cat, even though she knew her soul was being crushed as she rode so many guys) I really am reminded how brutal it is for American women. I feel sorry for them. Worst part is she tried to sound proud that she has no feeling left.

It honestly gave me the creeps a little bit to be able to hear articulately put what is going on in a young woman's brain and I think this translates to many other young women.

Lesson reinforced, going for girls in their early 20s or younger in America before they become spoiled is the right move.