Post: #176

I gave "The Life of Pablo" few more chances and made a new version that I can listen to from start to finish.

My tracklist:
Famous - great album starter
Highlights - OK
Waves - dope song
Real friends - similar to "blame game", seems like Kanye can still actually rap about something meaningful without making stupid voices
Wolves - experiment done very well, sounds great
30 hours - too bad Andre is basically a looped sample but still OK
Facts - I like the beat and Mr. West actually raps here


Leftovers:
Ultralight Beam - most boring album starter ever
Father Stretch My Hands Pt. I - messy and unlistenable
Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 2 - Kanye's verse is fine, almost passed but Desiigner ruined it
Feedback - beat so horrible that no lyrics could save it
Low Lights - blah blah blah who cares
Freestyle 4 - intriguing beat but complete nonsens lyrically
I Love Kanye - good for some mixtape
FML - equally boring as first track and idiotic hook by weeknd
Silver Surfer Intermission - cool story bro
No More Parties In LA - typical hiphop track but completely unfit for this album
Fade - wtf is this

Post: #177

^ haha the parallel between radiohead and kanye is nearly identical. ye is in his Kid A phase and the purists just wanna hear a nigga rap to them.

Post: #178

Wonder if he is going crazy like how Britney Spears did a few years back.

Post: #179

(02-24-2016 12:26 PM)XXL Wrote:  I gave "The Life of Pablo" few more chances and made a new version that I can listen to from start to finish.

My tracklist:
Famous - great album starter
Highlights - OK
Waves - dope song
Real friends - similar to "blame game", seems like Kanye can still actually rap about something meaningful without making stupid voices
Wolves - experiment done very well, sounds great
30 hours - too bad Andre is basically a looped sample but still OK
Facts - I like the beat and Mr. West actually raps here


Leftovers:
Ultralight Beam - most boring album starter ever
Father Stretch My Hands Pt. I - messy and unlistenable
Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 2 - Kanye's verse is fine, almost passed but Desiigner ruined it
Feedback - beat so horrible that no lyrics could save it
Low Lights - blah blah blah who cares
Freestyle 4 - intriguing beat but complete nonsens lyrically
I Love Kanye - good for some mixtape
FML - equally boring as first track and idiotic hook by weeknd
Silver Surfer Intermission - cool story bro
No More Parties In LA - typical hiphop track but completely unfit for this album
Fade - wtf is this

I like the edit you did, I would just swap out Facts for No More Parties In LA, tho.

No Problems is Kanye getting in his rapper's bag, classic sample, awesome lyrics and flow on display here, no autotune or cliche trap sound, no depressed mood, just a real cool fun track highlighting the "LA experience" and pitfalls. An album highlight imo, one of the few tracks that actually feels complete. Kendrick shines on here too.


I like the original version of Facts better than the album version.

Post: #180

Quote:KANYE WEST calls himself the world’s “greatest living artist” – but his former bodyguard says the rapper is more like the planet’s biggest diva.

He is so pampered he refuses to press his own lift buttons, and such a control freak that he bans staff from wearing anything but plain black clothing.


Bodyguard Steve’s tales of West’s wobblies are just as jaw-dropping.

He said: “On the first day we headed to his music studio. When we got into the elevator Kanye just stood there with his arms folded and said, ‘Aren’t you going to press the button?’.

‘Kanye never, ever apologises'

“I told him, ‘I have never been here, I don’t know which floor’.

“He flipped out, squealing that his time was precious and that he couldn’t believe I hadn’t called ahead to find out which floor he worked on.

“I explained, ‘We have three options. You tell me the floor and I press the button, you press the button, or we stand here’. Eventually, he told me and I pressed the button. Kanye never, ever apologises.”

Then there is his rule against his security entourage wearing anything but black.

Steve recalled: “There was a new security guard and on his first day he wore red-coloured sneakers and Kanye didn’t like it at all.

“The guy also touched Kanye’s shoulder while guiding him through paparazzi into his car. Even though the bodyguard was just doing his job Kanye turned around and snapped, ‘Don’t you ever touch me’.

“Within two hours I got a call to say the guy had been sacked.”

And Steve says it was almost impossible to predict what would set off the vocalist, producer and fashion designer, who is said to be worth £100milllion.

Only West's wife Kim could soothe the popstar when studio lights were 'getting in his eyes'

Steve continued: “He got annoyed because I ‘got in his shot’ once when the paparazzi were taking pictures. He absolutely adores the attention.

“On another occasion when we were in the studio, he walked past a couple of his other bodyguards as they were chatting, then turned and demanded, ‘Can you two not talk when I walk by you’.”

Steve once found himself tailing West through the streets of Manhattan late at night in his own family car after one of the star’s strops.

He said: “I was on my way into work and I got a call to say Kanye had stormed out of the studio after yet another row with someone, and asking could I go and find him.

“I discovered him walking down the side of a busy highway and went to pick him up.” But before getting in, the singer tried to insist dad-of-three Steve remove the child seats in the back so he could sit there instead. It seems he only deigns to sit in the front of a car if he is driving himself.


“I told him he could get in or keep on walking — and after a sulk he climbed in the front.”

Another meltdown came on the set of TV show Saturday Night Live when West threatened to walk out during a live broadcast because the shiny floor was reflecting the lights into his eyes.

The security guard said: “He was ranting incoherently and at one point screamed: “I am bummed . . . if I am going to do this, we are breaking the motherf***ing internet.”

It was only when wife Kim, 35, came down from the audience to soothe him that the 38-year-old could bear to carry on with the show.

Then there was the time Steve helped a tipsy West back to his room in New York’s luxury Waldorf Astoria hotel. Steve said: “It was about 5am and when we got out of the elevator he directed me to what was clearly the wrong room.

“There were security men in the corridor who said the suite was occupied by a party of Italian dignitaries.

“Rather than apologising Kanye started yelling and screaming, ‘Don’t you know who I am? I’m Mr West!’ to which the guys looked blank and curtly replied, ‘No’.

“After an awkward few seconds, which felt like an eternity, Kanye let me guide him back the other way.”

At a private “listening party” Steve also witnessed one of West’s infamously arrogant rants about his own talents. He said: “He started spouting off that the Grammy Awards were racist and that Adele was OK but she was no Aretha Franklin and that he was the greatest artist of all time. Former NYPD officer Steve was far more impressed with Kim, mum to Kanye’s daughter North, three next month, and six-month-old son Saint.

Steve was surprised by how little time the couple actually spend together: "They flew in to New York separately for the Met Ball earlier this month and when they were together they weren't particularly affectionate" EPA

But he was surprised how little time the couple, whose second wedding anniversary is next Tuesday, seemed to spend together.

He told The Sun: “They flew in to New York separately for the Met Ball earlier this month and when they were together they weren’t particularly affectionate.”

Despite this, Kanye is fiercely possessive of his reality superstar wife.

Steve said: “I first met her in February at his design studio. I introduced myself and said I was working for her family, so she knew who I was. She was very nice.

“After a few moments one of Kanye’s assistants came over and told me not to talk to Kim or get too close to her. The order can only have come from him.”

The issue came to a head on the night Steve was charged with escorting the two to the Met Ball, the huge annual fundraising gala held in New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art.

Not long before the pair were due to leave their hotel Kanye demanded to be driven to the bash in a sports car rather than the booked limousine.

Steve said: “They were struggling to locate one at such short notice, so I went up to their floor to find out what was happening.

“I ran into Kim in the hallway but before I had a chance to say anything Kanye emerged. I said: ‘How are you doing today, Mr West?’.

“He ignored me, walked into his room and shut the door abruptly.

“After that they left for the ball without me. Shortly afterwards I was told my services were no longer required.”


In total Steve had only worked for the star, who lives in Los Angeles, for TWO WEEKS — ten days in New York in February for his combined launch of his latest album and fashion range then four days back in the city ahead of the Met Ball.

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Post: #181

Kim owns Kanye like an asset and as soon as his usefulness is up he will be kicked to the curb like the diva bitch he is.

Post: #182

The problem is some idiots will think it is cool to emulate him.

Post: #183

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gos...story.html

Quote:Kanye West leaves Ellen DeGeneres speechless: 'I'm sorry for the realness'

"Well, it's not daytime television anymore," Ellen DeGeneres said Thursday on her show after a rambling, nearly unbroken, nearly 6½-minute oration by her guest, Kanye West.

"We're gonna take a break," she added, looking for the right words after she'd managed to sneak in only a few dozen of them during West's lengthy monologue.

After working to pry more than a few words out of the rapper as she quizzed him about his kids and whether he regretted anything he'd ever tweeted, the host brought up his appeal to Mark Zuckerberg for $1 billion in funding, which West acknowledged might have been more successful had he approached the Facebook founder on, well, Facebook, instead of Twitter.

"Give me one example, the ideas," DeGeneres said, "because maybe someone watching will give you the money."

And Kanye was off to the races.

We're in a Renaissance period where people have multiple talents, he said, name-checking "12 Years a Slave" director Steve McQueen.
He brought up his parents and their credentials, saying he was raised to make a difference. He quoted Rakim and said he was raised on Phife Dawg and hip-hop.

"Are you connecting?," the shoe designer asked after dismissing those who measure contributions to society by tracking sales and radio play.
"Picasso is dead. Steve Jobs is dead. Walt Disney is dead. Name somebody living that you can name in the same breath as them.

"Don't tell me about being likeable. We've got a hundred years here. We're one race, the human race, one civilization.
We're a blip in the existence of the universe, and we're constantly trying to pull each other down. Not doing things to help each other.
That's my point. It's like I'm shaking talking about it. I know it's daytime TV, but I feel that I can make a difference while I'm here.
I feel that I can make things better through my skill set. I'm an artist, and I feel that I can make things better through my skill set.
I'm a artist. Five years old, art school. PhD, Art Institute of Chicago."

He has a condition where he sees sound, he said. "Everything that I sonically make is a painting. I see it.
I see the importance — I see the importance and the value of everyone being able to experience a more beautiful life."

West dropped more names, mentioning a dinner with President Obama and Leonardo DiCaprio, the latter of whose conservation efforts were apparently taken more seriously than West's work in the world of fashion design.

"But," Mr. Kim Kardashian said, "I remember going to school, like, in fifth grade, and wanting to have a cool outfit ....

"I called the head of Payless [ShoeSource]. I'm like, 'I want to work with you.
I want to take all this information that I've learned from sitting at all these fashion shows and knocking on all these doors and buying all these expensive clothes and I want to take away bullying.' "

At this point, someone in the control booth apparently remembered to hit the "applause" button, because the audience had basically been taking it all in silently for a while.

"There was a time Michael Jackson couldn't get his video on MTV because he was considered to be 'urban.' The Michael Jackson," West said.
"So I literally have to be the Michael Jackson of apparel in order to break down the doors for everyone who will come after I'm gone, after I'm dead.
After they call me Wacko Kanye. Isn't that so funny, that people point fingers at the people who have influenced us the most?"

At this point, DeGeneres was — as she had been for an eternity in talk-show time — sitting motionless except for blinking and occasionally wetting her lips as if to speak.
But there had been no room to speak.

"I'm sorry, daytime television," West said to the audience. "I'm sorry for the realness."

Cue applause. Time to go to commercial.

I'm not entirely sure as to what to say here, so I'll just go with my knee-jerk reaction: He might need some new medication...

Post: #184

Post: #185

If anyone has ever wondered what methamphetamine sounds like, this is as good as it gets. If he's not on meth or some other drug, then he's crazy. He could be a bit of both.

Post: #186

He definitely seems manic, although not correlated to genius, it is often simultaneous. Too bad, "Through the Wire" was genius and College Dropout was a classic, but Kim K is a basic bitch by any other standard than her bank account. I hope she realizes at age 38 she is a quickly depreciating brand. Kanye needs to rebrand himself and jump ship if he doesn't want to end up like old Caitlyn.'

Post: #187

My first thought was also meth - there's something about his speech and cadence that just scream intoxication, on some substance or another.

Another thing i noticed though is that he has moments where he's clearly nervous, like he's going on adrenaline. Like some dude who gets a laugh in a group of people once and overdoes it trying to replicate - that telltale look on his face that he doesn't know where to go next but it's like he's trying to land some "knockout blow" and get the crowd fully on his side. He's just launching out topics he thinks the audience will care about like "inspiration" and "bullying"...i think it's probably one of the most hilarious cringe-videos of the moment.

This is also what happens when you don't have anybody telling you no in your circle. Any average dude acts like that, he's getting checked and starts to learn that his ideas don't make sense because he's getting that organic feedback. Even when he's saying shit that's crazy, nobody is stepping in and stopping him. I for one hope they never do.

Post: #188

I didn't watch the clip - trying to keep my few brain cells.

But if he talked a lot and didn't allow others to speak and talked over Ellen - it could be a sign of just massive insecurity.

Because you are afraid of what will be said back to you - so you just never let them say anything.

This is just in addition to his other issues. He has so many.

Post: #189

Obviously Kanye is crazy. Always has been and always will be. But he's made some amazing music over the years, both as a rapper and producer. Good artists are usually messed up like that... Don't really see what the big deal is.

Post: #190

If his music is so good he should just let that speak for him and not ruin his reputation by being a bitch.

Post: #191

Nah, good artists aren't messed up like that. That's a wack generalization. Look at Eminem, Nas, Drake(bit of a stretch), Lil Wayne.
There're very few instances of them going crazy in the PUBLIC eye, something everyone is watching, in interviews etc. Yet Kanye's métier is that.
Also, surprisingly Kim K seems to care about maintaining appearances. Prolly cos of the kids.

Post: #192

Prince? Michael Jackson? Kurt Cobain? All the rock stars who always have drug problems? And what about writers like Ernest Hemingway and Hunter S. Thompson who both committed suicide? The list goes on and on and on. So no, I don't think it's a whack generalization.

Eminem is completely messed up, have you ever even listened to his lyrics? Lil Wayne also says a ton of messed up s*** in his raps too.

It's possible to be a successful artist without being crazy or having messed-up life experiences (Drake would be an example of this), but there is definitely a strong correlation with the more creative and edgy artists and issues of mental health.

Quote:he should just let that speak for him and not ruin his reputation by being a bitch.

I completely agree with you on this point. But it doesn't change the fact that he's made great music as a producer AND a rapper. Literally no one else in the history of hip-hop has had the level of success he had simultaneously in both fields. College Dropout, Late Registration, even Graduation(not the whole thing but a lot of the songs on there), MBDTF are all classics.

Don't get me wrong. There's no denying that Kanye has been an idiot and a jackass in the public eye for years now. But that should have no bearing on evaluating his artistic body of work.

Post: #193

@rungoodinc, I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Of course the greatest stars have had crazy pasts, and do some crazy shit.

But few of them have had drug fueled rants ON TV. That was the point I'm trying to make.

Ye is small potatoes compared to Em, or most of the greatest rappers. He's just a very, very talented musician, and a good rapper. He was never a legendary lyricist. Having catchy punchlines isn't the be all, end all of lyricism.

And nobody was saying he's not accomplished as an artist. That is a given. We could talk for hours about who's Stanning up the right tree.

The problem here is Kanye has a massive ego, and acts like a stuck up bitch to people, at an age when he should have mellowed as a personality and an artist.

Post: #194

Can't disagree with what you're saying. I guess the difference for me is that, when I see Kanye going on these rants, I'm like "that's just Kanye." It comes with the territory to me. Even if he's an idiot and has continued to act out at the expense of others, I can't hate on the guy because he's brought so much good music to my life over the years.

Post: #195

Funny thing about Kanye is that while he used to embarrass only us Black Americans during these rants. Now he is beginning to embarrass the whole country and even the liberal SJW/wackjobs that support him the most. You could feel the tension in Ellen's voice that she probably want's to choke him. That interview was extremely cringe inducing to watch and I could only listen to maybe half of it.

He got everyone's attention before but no one will stop giving him a platform because they really really want to see how far from grace will he fall. That's what happens when you stick your neck out so much the way he did. Everyone will want to see your comeuppance badly, especially for a reverse-racist uppity black person. You can bet on it that white folks, liberal or conservative want to see that happen badly. You really cannot blame them.

Post: #196

In every rant i've seen Kanye go on about his own genius he seems to bring up the Medici family and the whole royal/wealthy patronage of the arts thing up a lot. He's already rich why does he feel that he needs a billionaire to back his artistic pursuits.

Also, what the fuck does he plan on doing if someone would hypothetically be willing to just throw money at him to create projects?

Post: #197

I've always enjoyed his music and respect the amount of cultural influence he has but if he's talking about making the world a better place then it shows he's completely lost his mind. This guy is talking about clothes and furniture and all that bullshit while Akon used his money to buy a diamond mine in Africa, made millions of signing lady gaga and now hes lighting Africa. That's what you actually call changing the world.

Post: #198

Isn't the thread titled Kanye West Attention Whore?

Not Is Kanye West A Good Musician?

I don't listen to his music so I don't know if he is. I take the word of most that he has talent. I probably wouldn't like it since it is hard for an arrogrpant individual to make non narcissistic self involved music. I could be wrong.

On a serious, more compassionate note, I have a little concern that he seems out of control now. What happens when he gets older and he can't safely keep raising the stakes to seek the highs he needs to feel alive? Mainly because of the impact his behavior has on young people.

Post: #199

(05-24-2016 08:56 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  Isn't the thread titled Kanye West Attention Whore?

Not Is Kanye West A Good Musician?

I don't listen to his music so I don't know if he is. I take the word of most that he has talent. I probably wouldn't like it since it is hard for an arrogrpant individual to make non narcissistic self involved music. I could be wrong.

On a serious, more compassionate note, I have a little concern that he seems out of control now. What happens when he gets older and he can't safely keep raising the stakes to seek the highs he needs to feel alive? Mainly because of the impact his behavior has on young people.

The same thing that happens to any clinical narcissist. He will get Narcissistic Harm and lash out. How much damage is anyone's guess. Will he become completely broke and hit rock bottom? Unlikely, but I would say that he is at a higher risk of suicide or accidental death before that happens. As for his effect on young people, he will be one out of many lives they have to see through or filter through their own lenses. If it was not Kanye, it would surely be another taking that same space. The decline of the society outright guarantees that. Alot of stuff Anglo Americans have done for decades now, Black Americans will not be able to avoid once they acquire the financial and societal means to do so. Guys like him will have to learn many things the hard way like so many others did or lose it all.

Funny how Kim actually starting to care what the child sees from Kanye. Disgusting wretch feeling the itch of a responsible mother? The harbinger of social dysfunction feeling the itch? The Whore of Babylon looking to pass a baton to another? Ridiculous. Just another psy-op to soften her image to appear more moderate for money reasons and sponsorships. Most of the damage she has done is enough to last a century regardless of she were to suddenly switch sides.

Post: #200

Why has Kanye been lately only bursting when on other Artist's tracks?