Post: #1

I have failed as an older brother.

I showed her ROK and my blog. Hopefully it's not too late!

Post: #2

You need to explain the concept of the hamster. Right now that woman´s study class is like heroin to her hamster. While her hamster is no doubt getting an incredible high right now like heroin she will end up fucked up, addicted to a high that is artificial and she will be unhappy in the long run.

We need a Hamsters Anonymous to get these girls off facebook, instagram, feminism etc to help them see that shit will only ruin them in the long run.

Post: #3

Is your sister fat, ugly, socially awkard or all of the above?

Has she had "bad" sexual experiences?

Post: #4

(10-23-2013 10:33 PM)bacon Wrote:  You need to explain the concept of the hamster. Right now that woman´s study class is like heroin to her hamster. While her hamster is no doubt getting an incredible high right now like heroin she will end up fucked up, addicted to a high that is artificial and she will be unhappy in the long run.

We need a Hamsters Anonymous to get these girls off facebook, instagram, feminism etc to help them see that shit will only ruin them in the long run.

I picked her out a few good articles that hopefully steers her away from this direction. Thankfully she's not a huge social media whore.

Post: #5

(10-23-2013 10:33 PM)Edmund Dantes Wrote:  Is your sister fat, ugly, socially awkard or all of the above?

Has she had "bad" sexual experiences?

None of the above.

Post: #6

Lol, my little sister and her "sociology class" Same ole shit. I looked at her and said are you serious?

Post: #7

My condolences. I hope she doesn't become another victim of feminism but if she does, gotta put her down like a rabid dog (verbally).

Post: #8

Text back:
Gay

Post: #9

(10-23-2013 10:54 PM)frogmallet Wrote:  Text back:
Gay

Except, no capital letters. gay.

Unfortunately, "bring da movies," and "that's okay, I wouldn't want to get you pregnant" don't apply in this situation.

Post: #10

Show her pics of the "famous" feminists and then ask her what they have in common. Tell her how they're all fat, hate men, lonely, and bitter. Now, show her the bitches on OKC that say they study feminism and ask her if she wants to end up like them.

Post: #11

(10-23-2013 11:03 PM)Edmund Dantes Wrote:  Show her pics of the "famous" feminists and then ask her what they have in common. Tell her how they're all fat, hate men, lonely, and bitter. Now, show her the bitches on OKC that say they study feminism and ask her if she wants to end up like them.

This.

Point out that the moment Miley Cyrus started looking like an ugly feminist, Hemsworth dumped her for a much more feminine girl.

Post: #12

She's taken the first bite.

This will not end well.

Post: #13

It isn't just women's studies that's toxic. I have no doubt humanities and social sciences are even worse than they were when I was an undergrad.

http://whatmenthinkofwomen.blogspot.ca/2...rsity.html

Post: #14

(10-23-2013 11:56 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  It isn't just women's studies that's toxic. I have no doubt humanities and social sciences are even worse than they were when I was an undergrad.

http://whatmenthinkofwomen.blogspot.ca/2...rsity.html

Liberal Arts are mostly a joke across all majors. I wrote about it all here: http://www.returnofkings.com/17684/how-l...ur-economy

Post: #15

Probably not even worth entertaining, required college courses are centered around all sorts of dumb stuff.

Post: #16

Relax, chances are that if you are posting about your little sister, you should probably be posting in the newbie forum.

Go read up on all that stuff, then re-consider your little sister thing.

Post: #17

I'd just chill out. Most of these problems fix themselves over time or require no attention.
Probably 85% of "womyn" or "feminists" don't turn into Andrea Dworkin - that kind of shit requires a serious mental illness.

She's probably going to be a soft feminist and the most annoying thing she comes up with is complaining that Obama doesn't hire a female justice for the supreme court or there's a glass ceiling or some shit. Most chicks who get into that get bored and sort of drift off to their next interest.

If you want to be proactive about this, ignore everything related to her and feminism completely and find some other talent she has (good luck) and nurture that to no end. Supposing she can draw, get her a nice stencil pad and charcoal or oil paints or something and tell her to be the best artist she can be - tell her to take art history, art classes, pottery, sculpture, etc.
Women are also usually decent at languages - a few books or a Pimsleur course might steer her in the right direction. Distraction works.

If you decide to challenge things that she's read, she's probably going to defend them to you - in turn that will actually solidify them to herself as her "views" - when that very well might not be the case. Don't give her a good reason to adopt this crap as her beliefs, the structure of feminism itself teaches women to distrust men. You can do more "damage" by ignoring it and not alienating yourself to her.

What I'm also saying is that you're absolutely not going to convince her otherwise by just showing her your blog and the ROK - why should she care? Why would 'logic' work anyway? If you care about her political leanings (again, it wouldn't bother me at all to have a feminist in the family, even the nuclear family - everyone knows I'm a misogynist already and if there's a problem it can be settled quickly), then take some time to consider something she is already good at and thoughtfully nurture it. It's not beta if it's family.

Post: #18

Here's why it's a problem. While people are correct that "85 percent of women don't turn into feminists like Andrea Dworkin," the lies about men and the deliberate misinterpretations of history seep into our culture.

And what do they give us? Chronologically speaking:

Boyhood being "diagnosed" by female educators as a condition to be cured.
Moms putting boys on Ritalin willy-nilly.
Boys not getting proper education because of feminized schools.
Kids books, movies and music being "Girl power" obsessed.
"Girl power!" in the schools.
Boys sports getting nixed because of Title IX.
Fewer boys going to college because of all of the above.
College guys getting expelled over PC bullshit.
Colleges teaching that men are "oppressors" not builders.
Colleges not getting the irony of preaching that in venues built by men.
The expanding definition of rape.
A dating scene filled with women on the online-hamster thread.
"Body image" bullshit making women think being a fatass is "body positive."
The expanding definition of sexual harassment in the workplace.
Women being hired because of quotas, so there may be no workplace.
Homeless shelters that cater to women.
The female-biased judicial system and a prison system filled with men.
Women getting the house and kids if guys get divorced.
Massive, insane alimony and child support.
Debtors prisons if those payments can't be made.
No recourse for paternity fraud.
Few resources for men who get screwed, except sites like this.
This site is on an SPLC list for being "hateful," but women's studies courses aren't.
The very fact that the above could occur in a sane society.
Men die five years younger, but entire hospital wings are dedicated to women.
I'm sure this list is far from complete.

What women's studies does is build simmering resentment against men that seeps into people's subconscious minds. Saying it doesn't have much direct effect might be correct, but looking around at the culture, it's completely colored everything most people say and do.

Have you ever gone into someone's house that smells, but they don't realize it because it's their house? That's our society. We no longer can perceive the stench of what women's studies has wrought because of how much it's permeated everyday life.

Post: #19

I'd tell her "Don't take that shit too seriously if you want a husband and a family one day".

Post: #20

Hades Wrote:I'd just chill out. Most of these problems fix themselves over time or require no attention.
Probably 85% of "womyn" or "feminists" don't turn into Andrea Dworkin - that kind of shit requires a serious mental illness.

She's probably going to be a soft feminist and the most annoying thing she comes up with is complaining that Obama doesn't hire a female justice for the supreme court or there's a glass ceiling or some shit. Most chicks who get into that get bored and sort of drift off to their next interest.

But studying (and liking) women's studies is the very top of feminism. What could she do that would be more feminist than that - strip naked and go march with Femen? It seems to me that your post, while completely valid, describes a vast majority of normal women today - soft feminism and spouting toxic attitudes, but no real sentiment or action. Studying women's studies, however, seems like a whole another level.

For example, most men who like martial arts are eventually going to get bored, stop following it and develop a beer gut due to not having spent a single day training. But this chick is the equivalent of a dude who has gotten into a famous dojo and is in love with it. She has already taken very serious steps forward (or downward, to be precise).

Post: #21

Kill her.

Post: #22

Of course she likes women's studies. The whole purpose of women's studies is to take all the conflicting, awkward, insecure internal feelings that adolescents have and convince them that it's all the fault of this external thing called the patriarchy.

You should just turn it back at her and respond with something like, "Great. Now why don't you do something really feminist, like excel at engineering or math?"

Post: #23

I should have clarified. She's taking this as a general ed class. It is NOT her major.

If that was the case I'd really be concerned. As of now, I'm treating it as more of a "roll my eyes" situation. I definitely posted this as more of a joke but I'm glad to see the debate going.

Post: #24

(10-24-2013 03:06 AM)soup Wrote:  Relax, chances are that if you are posting about your little sister, you should probably be posting in the newbie forum.

Go read up on all that stuff, then re-consider your little sister thing.

This has nothing to do with game. I won't game my little sister out of being a feminist by negging her and dropping DHVs.

Post: #25

This may seem a little anti-manosphere in philosophy, but you might try actually showing interest and talking to her about it. Use Socratic Method to pair the subjects she's learning down. Try not to come across as antagonistic though, because that will just polarize her toward it.

When girls are just encountering these things that is when their minds are most open to all sides. If you can get them to consider alternative viewpoints or how some of the points Feminism makes are inconsistent then they are more likely to reject it wholecloth later, or at least keep questioning it as they continue learning it. Encourage her to be critical about everything she learns in college, because that is the true lesson you should be taking away from a University education.

I'll note that I've had some success with this myself, in "diversity" classes I was required to take. These are classes where we had to choose a topic within the fields of Gender, Race or Sexual Orientation to write a final term paper on. I chose to write about men's rights issues to the chagrin of my instructor. Our discussions in the class made a lot of the average and more attractive girls in the class come to my side and question the instructor's dogmatic prescriptions--and also pissed off one homely feminist and her gay buddy.

Despite what might be the popular current here in this regard, you can actually reason with women who are interested in intellectual subjects. Yes, they're still prone to hamsterizations when they have preconceived feelings about a topic, but those who haven't suffered any abuses in their lives are usually approaching from a neutral standpoint easily swayed by reason. It helps if you bring up feelings-heavy counter examples though, "What about men who just want to be good fathers and get screwed legally? What about baby boys?" etc, so on.