Post: #1

This actually happened a few months ago, when I was in Beijing during the summer.

I met this 20 yr old local girl -- she was a university chick, really cute, nice rack. Another good thing about her is she speaks and understands English well enough. We actually went out several times before I tried putting the moves on her.

After about a month knowing each other, we went out one afternoon hanging out, eating lunch, then checking out the mall. When it got dark, I decided to call it a day and head back to my hotel.

So we get back to my hotel, and I tell her to get out of the car and come along with me (I say all this in a very casual, relaxed manner). She steps out of the car and we walk back to the hotel. When we say our goodbyes and she looks like she's about to leave, I tell her to come to my room for just a little while, just so she can see what my room looks like. She says "OK" and we both go in.

She checks out my room, and says it looks better than she originally thought. I say it's all right, and then we both engage in a little chit chat before she says it's time to leave. I say, "OK you better leave now."

She then sighs and whines, "my legs are feeling sore, I don't know if I can walk well."

I'm sitting on the bed while she's saying this, and so I tell her, "come here and sit." She does so, and pretty soon, my arm is around her and lightly massaging and rubbing her back.

After a silent pause, I move in to kiss her. My face is just brushing hers when all of a sudden she lets out a kind of whimper, and moves away from me.

I move back, and start touching her again, rubbing her leg, holding her hand, doing a palm-reading. We're talking a bit, and then after a few minutes I move in again. Same thing: she moves away.

At this point, I didn't know what more I could do. Plus, I felt time pressured because she had a driver waiting outside for her, and I didn't want to make him wait long. I figured I could try some other time with her. I tell her to leave, and she gets up, kisses me on the cheek, and leaves.

The next day, I email her to try to make plans to meet up again. Usually she responded within a day. I wait a few days, and she doesn't respond. I emailed her again. Again, no response.

I thought about the time back when I tried to get a make out with her. What could I have done differently? I was touching her, and getting away with it -- and she seemed to follow my lead up until I tried to kiss her. What should I have said?

Post: #2

(11-04-2010 08:18 PM)starplay Wrote:  What should I have said?

1) It's a numbers game, the answer is always have others in the pipeline because only some minority percentage of women for whatever reason are really DTF right at the time you want to. The work needed to not be a beggar is to be generous with opening.

Snoop Dogg, Leonardo DiCaprio, pick any zillionaire could be in a Manhattan Bar and there would be a ton of chicks that would'n't do each, even though their percentages might be 70%.

2) Visualize in your mind-- Some girls are burning up, regularly masturbating OR horny as hell or can't/don't like to masturbate for some reason-- they are HOPING some guy will fuck them. It's so much easier to move along with one of those who are hoping to cooperate than a wooden chick for whom sex is some weird thing she's indifferent to.

3) Difficult girls stay difficult. Weed them out early. (Janka)

Post: #3

(11-04-2010 08:18 PM)starplay Wrote:  We actually went out several times before I tried putting the moves on her.

Possible LJBF ?

Post: #4

She sounds like a "good girl" man, you were probably too agressive.

Post: #5

(11-07-2010 03:19 PM)Feo Wrote:  She sounds like a "good girl" man, you were probably too agressive.

This could be true in one way, but then what's the point? If she were genetically wired to be really horny, she would already be that way.

I raises an interesting question-- how much do chicks really "flower"-- is being very sexual built in, or do the "talented" ones have it spontaneously come out? Usually I think if she's wired to be horny, she's going to see sexual cues in her environment and respond-- she'll start really cueing guys in whom she's interested.

Post: #6

(11-07-2010 02:59 PM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

(11-04-2010 08:18 PM)starplay Wrote:  We actually went out several times before I tried putting the moves on her.

Possible LJBF ?

But she came back to my hotel room, and then she stayed put the first time when I hinted she should leave. And then when we were sitting there on the bed, she allowed me to get physical with her, touching her before I tried to kiss her.

(11-07-2010 03:19 PM)Feo Wrote:  She sounds like a "good girl" man, you were probably too agressive.

Yeah, she projects that image, but she's also something of a cock tease. A lot of Asian girls are like that. Like I said, she had a nice rack, and she knew it too.

But how was I being too aggressive? I couldn't tell if she wanted sex or not unless I was a bit aggressive, moving in to try to kiss her.