(02-12-2014 10:20 AM)eradicator Wrote:  jjroberts, I get what you are saying, however, you can avoid that trap by saying "lets meet up for coffee" instead of "let's meet up for a coffee date.". But just don't add the part about "don't think of it as a date".

hopefully I am explaining good.

Well nobody has really answered my question yet.

After the radio silence when you suggest the meetup, whats a good way to go back to establishing vibe ?

(02-16-2014 01:27 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 11:44 AM)Akula Wrote:  ^^^^

I chose a variant of #4. Didn't want to inflate her ego any more by implying I think she's cool, and wanted to be pretty clear I meet people (i.e. women) on trams, malls or wherever so she's aware I'm a guy who's has plenty of options (bc I do). Not sure it will really work as she went radio silent. Frankly I took her abrupt change / shit test as a bit of a bad sign and think I might have to move on - oh well.

Like I said, it probably made her mind melt. 90% of the men would never even consider doing what we do(talking to beautiful women where ever we go). I guess you could have gone in another direction and answered your question with a question and said "You never get approached by men you don't know and have them ask you for dates? *That* is strange..."

Also, what city are you in? In some cities, it seems like more of a wolf's den and totally normal(new york, miami, los angeles) to talk to women you don't know. In other cities, not so much.

In Prague, where I'd argue not as many guys are approaching esp in my neighborhood outside the center. That said, Czech guys sure do seem to be unafraid....

Here's a couple other things she wrote that I am unfamiliar with:

"It is kind of late to ask me about meeting up this week. I have my week totally full already. I usually plan my week on Friday."

At first glance I was thinking 'oh, she's making herself unavailable and trying and/or showing how busy/popular she is" which I took as a bad sign, time to move on etc. but now I'm not sure.

My gut is still this is sorta dead - is it salvageable? Wondering why didn't she just not respond or wait 2 days or something before answering vaguely if she's not down?

I guess maybe it's sort of an attention whoring kinda thing and she's still not really sold on our encounter - not sure. Usually it's more cut and dried for me (i.e. she either gets right back to me and we do 1-2 SMSs then agree to meet up (or not) - at least that was my Russian experience). Here she responded quickly, then reached out to me on Whatsapp (after I sms'd her) then carried on a conversation for awhile before finally coming up with that final shit test message.

(I'm overthinking this..which is bad...and instinctively tells me I just need to move on.....)

@jjrob.. she thinks you want her. Just show her that you don't.

(02-16-2014 10:50 AM)Akula Wrote:  Ok just got this from a blonde Czech 7.5 - 8 (?) I met on the tram on Friday night on the way to the club:

"Do you usually go out with people you meet on a street? to me it sounds kind of strange "

I would text back, "what are you talking about?"

It should get her trying to explain herself, and when she explains herself, she invests, and when she invests...

Usually I'm confident enough to handle my own affairs but.. I've literally blanked.
Valetine's Weekend, I was eh.. busy. Anyway..

Her: I had such a fun activity-filled weekend!
Me: Sounds like you got bunk beds. (Step Brothers .. So much room for activities.)
Her: I wish! Been deprived of those bad boys all my life

Maybe I should sleep on it.

Recent text from a chick I've had in my harem since October:

Her: I gotta be honest... I am seeing someone and it's pretty exclusive. I don't think I should be messing around with anyone else.

^You: wats her name?

Ok, I met this girl last Saturday night at the bar. 22yo college student. Very cute.Things escalated very quickly with touching to grabbing a drink at the bar to kissing in the hallway at the back of the bar. Last call, lights flip on very brightly and interrupt our fun. I hand her my phone and she types her # in.

Now... she goes to college 1 hour away from where I live. I'm lost as to what to text next to get something set up/keep her interested. I prefer not to drive there as I think that would not be conducive to the frame I'm trying to instill, but I'm very new to game and am wide open to help/suggestions:

Wednesday
wearebutmen (9:39am): What's going on?
wearebutmen (10:50am): It's wearebutmen from (bar).

her (12:05pm): Hey I've been working all morning... Such a buzzkill. What's up with you?

me (1:31pm): Coffee helps with that. Mostly kicking butt today. Are you going to be back in (my city) soon?

her (2:27pm) Yeah I love coffee and my job, I'm just not really a morning person. I'm not sure when I'll be back down. I've been a lot lately for bday celebrations, but I dont have any planned soon.

me (3:03pm): As luck would have it my bday is next week

her (3:04pm): haha well played

me (3:05pm): timing is key dont ya know
me (3:06pm): Where do you work while drinking your coffee?

her (3:08pm) i agree, I work in the (place) near campus. Where do you work while kicking butt?

me: (3:14pm) At (generic job description)
me: (3:16pm): they seem to reward kicking butt

her: (3:21pm) oh really?

me (3:25pm) yeah I had to sign with blood and everything. kind of weird, but i rolled with it

her (644pm) haha sounds legit

Thursday

me (1057am) i was disappointed when we were interrupted at last call

her (1118am) last call is always ruining a good time

me(1127am) interruptions are temporary in nature, lucky for us

her (1137am) Youre witty. i like it

me (1242pm) good. it goes well with morning coffee too

her (101pm) morning coffee goes well with just about anything. i take mine with a dash of cream, no sugar, for future reference

me (409pm) that wont be a problem

her (521pm) perfect. i dont need sugar because Im sweet enough!

me ( 547pm) we'll see about that

her (637pm) hey! im sweet as pie, promise

me (759pm) i like the sound of that
me (800pm) youre still gonna have to work to prove it though

her (821pm) no worries. i can handle that

Friday

I decided not to text today until I could get some advice from you fellas. it seems to have ended on a good note.. now how do i proceed?

msg'd my copy pasta to a girl on pof

me: I'm not on this site very often, I usually am swamped with work and too busy to message anyone...

But every once in a while, I see someone who I find very attractive, with a profile description to match. Little things stick out to me, and I value certain traits that I tend to look for in a woman. You happen to be one of those women. We should meet up for a coffee/drink this week.

C

her: You sound like a true gentlemen. Like your profile. But honea I'm 8yrs older than you. I just turned 28 feb3...

Tell me this...what was it exactly that made you send me a msg?

I'm 18 but my pof says 20 haha, what do I say?

g0d damnit thanks rooshvforum i just send a drunk message with no third party intervention we will see tm what arises

Took from her profile and paraphrased hope it doesn't sound like shit...

me: Well I thought you were cute, you said you are an awesome person with an awesome bod so why not. I thought we could be friends

maybe not the best response but the best i could think of and I'm fucked on spiced rum right now so let me know what i did right/could have done differently

Hooked up with a new chick Saturday night. Wild sex, my oral and fingering drove her crazy. Just texted her the following:

Me: I can still taste you.

Her: That sounds terrible. I send you my regards.

Interesting one I'm having right now, not sure how I did.

Me: Hey, how's your Monday going? Partying it up?
Her: more like hibernating, why did it get so cold again?
Me: Yea, you're not hibernating anymore, meet me tom.How about 7pm?
Her: You seem really nice but to be honest I'm not interested in seeing anyone right now.
Me: Its a drink/food, not asking u to marry me, dont be lazy haha.
Her: I'm on a hunger strike as part of a political protest. ( Wtf?)
Me: I'm joining the strike tom, no food/drinks..we're meeting and hanging out.
Her: sadface emoticon
Me: ..... at 7pm.It's a good spot and time to protest


Haven't heard back yet.I think I handled her well but she could just go silent on me.

(02-24-2014 07:37 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  Hooked up with a new chick Saturday night. Wild sex, my oral and fingering drove her crazy. Just texted her the following:

Me: I can still taste you.

Her: That sounds terrible. I send you my regards.

Here's all I can think of for that one.

"We'll even the score next time or "

"Its not all bad, but if you're feeling guilty you can make it up to me next time."

"I don't recall complaining... "

(02-24-2014 07:37 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  Hooked up with a new chick Saturday night. Wild sex, my oral and fingering drove her crazy. Just texted her the following:

Me: I can still taste you.

Her: That sounds terrible. I send you my regards.

I'm not sure how much salvaging there is to do here unless she has a weird sense of humor. I would drop the thread and then re-initiate in a couple days to meet up. Really hard to tell, there's such a huge disconnect from your impression of "wild sex" and that you "drove her crazy" and her response here.

(02-24-2014 10:15 PM)LaserBear Wrote:  Here's all I can think of for that one.

"We'll even the score next time or "

"Its not all bad, but if you're feeling guilty you can make it up to me next time."

"I don't recall complaining... "

All pretty bad. I wouldn't even continue this thread, it's horrible.

(02-24-2014 08:29 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  Interesting one I'm having right now, not sure how I did.

Me: Hey, how's your Monday going? Partying it up?
Her: more like hibernating, why did it get so cold again?
Me: Yea, you're not hibernating anymore, meet me tom.How about 7pm?
Her: You seem really nice but to be honest I'm not interested in seeing anyone right now.
Me: Its a drink/food, not asking u to marry me, dont be lazy haha.
Her: I'm on a hunger strike as part of a political protest. ( Wtf?)
Me: I'm joining the strike tom, no food/drinks..we're meeting and hanging out.
Her: sadface emoticon
Me: ..... at 7pm.It's a good spot and time to protest

Haven't heard back yet.I think I handled her well but she could just go silent on me.

You didn't do that great. You tried to argue with her about not being interested in "seeing anyone" (this means "seeing YOU") and then you insulted her and laughed.

You tried to hold frame but she just got upset that you were REALLY not getting what she was getting across not that subtly.

Go after another chick.

"I can still taste you."

(02-24-2014 10:31 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(02-24-2014 07:37 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  Hooked up with a new chick Saturday night. Wild sex, my oral and fingering drove her crazy. Just texted her the following:

Me: I can still taste you.

Her: That sounds terrible. I send you my regards.

I'm not sure how much salvaging there is to do here unless she has a weird sense of humor. I would drop the thread and then re-initiate in a couple days to meet up. Really hard to tell, there's such a huge disconnect from your impression of "wild sex" and that you "drove her crazy" and her response here.

She was definitely a strange gal. Though, during the act she was screaming/moaning, and kept sucking me off enthusiastically. I was dominate and assertive with her all night (before and after sex). I suspect she may have been cheating on her bf.

In response to her strange message, I figured I'd just ignore it and send her a brief text tomorrow night with concrete plans for getting together later in the week.

Ok, for guys in Japan, I looked over my contact list and address of the girl I approached a year earlier popped up, she ignored my text that time so figured I should just move on. Now I thought no harm in sending something just for fun and I texted her :"make me a sandwich", later she replied with :"made for u" with a picture of a big sandwich, so what will you text next ?

Backstory: Met this girl at a bar about 2 weeks ago. I made out with her and was leading the whole interaction very well. There was no doubt she was dtf but the problem was, logistics weren't in my favor that night. She was the driver for two of her friends that night (it was her car) and she lives at home with her parents.

I stretched out the interaction and pushed for as much as I could at her car but only ended it with some makeouts in her car while her friends were waiting outside to come in. They knew I was inside, lol.

Anyway, I just chunk this situation as a lost since I didn't get the bang that night. We all know how flaky these hos can be. Regardless, I got her number and decided to pursue it further.

Text her 2 days later and she basically says she has family over which sounded like bs to me but whatever. i dropped it for that weekend knowing i would send a restart text on monday.

I did the restart text by simply asking her, "how was your weekend?"
and here is where it starts:
(I'm YB and she's French girl).

YB: how was your weekend?
FrenchGirl: great had family over. how about yours?
YB: good, i actually went out to ______ again. (some city we both traveled too, separately)
FrenchGirl: hahah swear!! thats whats up...did u have fun?
YB: pics dont lie (i sent a pic). yeah lots we didnt even plan it we just said fu*k it and went off.
FrenchGirl: lol thats kool looks like it was packed
YB: it was on Sat. i'm thinking about going to ___ on spring break tho.
FrenchGirl: travel as much as u can! while ur young!!
YB: youre right just have fun when you can. anyway what are you up to this weekend?
FrenchGirl: mmm well its early to plan lol i really don't know
YB: damn and here i thought u were the fun outgoing type lol
FrenchGirl: i am lol i just don't party as much as i used to
YB: sure i bet u secretly got wasted this past weekend. let me find out youre an undercover badgirl
FrenchGirl: hahaha your crazy i haven't drank a beer since like 2 week ago
YB: hmm sounds to me like someone is thinking about drinking this week *points to FrenchGirl*
FrenchGirl: hahah how did you know
FrenchGirl:good job!
YB: i'm a psychic lol. i see us meeting 4 drinks in the future too
FrenchGirl: hahah well with great powers come great responsibilities
YB: calm down spiderman. but on the real we should meet up.
FrenchGirl: haha
FrenchGirl:yeah one of these days
YB: Wednesday sounds good to me
FrenchGirl Lol no it doesn't


i'm thinking about cutting this sloot off since i think she's wasting my time.

thoughts?

^Not bad, but relax a little.

The eagerness is coming through. NEVER try to setup plans for the weekend on a Monday.

In fact, I was just telling a client of mine it depends on your region. In La and Vegas, girls 21-24 are flaky as fuck and are going for the BEST option that's available ASAP.

In other words, I would not text her anymore until Friday, then text this:

You: hitting up XYZ bar/club tonite w/a buddy. Come out.

Her: blah blah blah

This gives her slut hamster plausible deniability that you WON'T bang, it's just her going out with a GF to meet you and your buddy for drinks. Completely 'innocent'.

Now deep down, she can justify sleeping with you the next day by thinking 'I just went for drinks. I don't even know what happened'.

See the difference?

Make plans 1-2 days beforehand and even the day of. That's it.

Don't contact her again until Friday. If she makes up an excuse than just delete her number.

^
Very sound advice, McQueen. I was thinking the same thing except I would hit her up on Thursday since I might leave out of town on Friday.

I use this whole text monday method because it's worked in the past for banging girls on Tuesday or Wednesday, which are the nights I'm free anyway. I'll give your advice a try since my method isn't currently working. I'll be sure to post a follow-up whenever I can.

Hey guys - new here need some assistance,

Backstory: Went to a party last Saturday, met this really hot asian girl I'm a senior she is a a freshman go to school in a city. Ended up having sex with her that night, everything went great. Literally textbook situation up to this point. Now this is where I completely fuck it all up, here is the text convo from the next day

Me: Hey its (my name). Had a great time last night and totally serious about korean bbq lol (we had talked about getting korean bbq that night, she is also korean)
Her (4 hours later): heyy it was nice meeting you! yeah i do love korean bbq
Me: Cool i'm free on wednesday we can go then

This was Sunday still no response. I'm usually decent at texting but I was on a ton of adderall and clearly was way to fucking aggressive. I'm wondering if there is any way to salvage the situation because she was an awesome girl and we had a really great night. Any advice would be appreciated

^^ What about going for some Korean BBQ and taking a picture of the food and telling her she's missing out on some great food?

(02-25-2014 10:44 AM)VeniVidiVici Wrote:  Hey guys - new here need some assistance,

Backstory: Went to a party last Saturday, met this really hot asian girl I'm a senior she is a a freshman go to school in a city. Ended up having sex with her that night, everything went great. Literally textbook situation up to this point. Now this is where I completely fuck it all up, here is the text convo from the next day

Me: Hey its (my name). Had a great time last night and totally serious about korean bbq lol (we had talked about getting korean bbq that night, she is also korean)
Her (4 hours later): heyy it was nice meeting you! yeah i do love korean bbq
Me: Cool i'm free on wednesday we can go then

This was Sunday still no response. I'm usually decent at texting but I was on a ton of adderall and clearly was way to fucking aggressive. I'm wondering if there is any way to salvage the situation because she was an awesome girl and we had a really great night. Any advice would be appreciated

Either you didn't bang her hard enough or you came across as too needy by texting her the very next day (after you banged!) on setting up plans. After the bang I usually wait for two days and by then, more than half of the girls re-initiate contact.

A friend of mines was going through this situation about a week ago. He banged a girl the same night he met her but texted her the following morning.

He never heard from her again.

You, on the other hand, did get a text back so I would suggest you chill out for a few days and hit that ho up again. Just don't get your hopes up on her.

(02-25-2014 10:44 AM)VeniVidiVici Wrote:  Hey guys - new here need some assistance,

Backstory: Went to a party last Saturday, met this really hot asian girl I'm a senior she is a a freshman go to school in a city. Ended up having sex with her that night, everything went great. Literally textbook situation up to this point. Now this is where I completely fuck it all up, here is the text convo from the next day

Me: Hey its (my name). Had a great time last night and totally serious about korean bbq lol (we had talked about getting korean bbq that night, she is also korean)
Her (4 hours later): heyy it was nice meeting you! yeah i do love korean bbq
Me: Cool i'm free on wednesday we can go then

This was Sunday still no response. I'm usually decent at texting but I was on a ton of adderall and clearly was way to fucking aggressive. I'm wondering if there is any way to salvage the situation because she was an awesome girl and we had a really great night. Any advice would be appreciated

I'd send a single question mark or just wait until she contacts you again. Your texts need to be WAY shorter and less enthusiastic. It's okay to indicate you had fun, but to say you had a "great time" and then follow up with being "serious" about wanting to get kbbq with her and adding a lol. You sound like a teenage girl. Text like a man.

Totally okay to have fun and be non-serious, the problem is not that aspect OR that you were aggressive, it's that you started sounding like a teenage girl.

Once you are dating/fucking for a while you can loosen up a bit.

You're a senior, I'm sure you have cool shit going on or have access to something that she doesn't (alcohol, your own place, cool parties, disposable income, etc...), take advantage of that disparity.