Post: #326

(12-07-2013 07:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  ^ you're not plugged into Internet marketing cats. My best friend does this for a living, he makes $350K a year. No way you're breaking into the industry today, you don't know how to make a cloaker or have a cloaker.

Basically you have illegal accounts that trick and cloak google. You have created software that is better than google and can trick it into selling illegal ads.

Example you click on an ad one Facebook it takes you to an ad that is not legal according to Facebook or google standards. However because they have linked it up on Facebook, when a Facebook employee clicks on it, it goes to a legitimate ad. This is what people mean by "scammers". In Facebook and google. Nifty huh?

If you listen to a Facebook earnings call the info is there.

They tried to stop them by jacking up click view and page view on their ads but they failed because the guys running this have better software than them. Running VMware Citrix and other hyper visors and logmein accounts in multiple countries

It's not an easy job at all and you can meet some serious criminals on there. I laugh when people say advertising is legit, there is a lot of fraud.

Some people straight sell a product but then they are linked to multiple shell accounts in other countries. When they get "investigated" they find the bank accounts are linked to a company that is bankrupt. Then they find it is part of a 10000 + enterprise company full of other bankrupt and fraud accounts. So they end up eating the cost and credit card companies eat the charge back.

So funny enough it's a bigger scam than banks which average joe thinks is the biggest fraud running. Basically take money have a shitty fraud account then bankrupt it and leave. Some are shady enough to not even ship product haha! Then they hit your credit card with random charges that say "food" for like $4 a month that average people don't pick up on. This is also why all my credit is locked up.

That's enough detail haha. But it all started back when ringtones were hot. Lots of fraud. Lots and lots and lots of fraud followed.

The two hubs for this industry? San Diego and flordia... It has expanded since then but those are the heavy hitters in the industry.

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This is also why I laugh when people say they "know tech" okay you know tech then explain how I can use a hybrid cloud with multiple servers to protect your identity.

Here is the response you get

Guys can't even tell you the difference between crm, VMware, Citrix or why an ssd is used at Facebook versus hdds for google data centers... But they "know" the industry.... .... .... Lol!

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The final axe is that theG tries to remain private. His means he has already seen what happens to those guys when they show the flash. Most guys in the industry try to show off, they have Instagram accounts and show all their receipts dropping thousands in the club and driving bentleys. Yes the del Mar race track is a normal place to find these cats as well.

If you don't understand this post 0% chance you ever make it in that industry, you have to kill yourself to break in without the right connects.

One of my best friend made 300k+ (profit) last year on LEGIT facebook marketing.

Cloakers are pretty easy to get by for facebook. Hell I even myself coded my own for POF.

A lot of people are making 2-3-4-5 times that money with legit media buys, in adult for example.

I think you are over-hyping the marketing world. One simply needs to go full-time on that for few months to start being profitable. And being more intelligent than average helps (like you seems to be too). But overall there are no magic tricks.

Post: #327

150 is the new 100 (2016)

Post: #328

Of all my friends who aren't part of this community, most of them have banged girls in the single digits. 3 or 4 are >10, and only 2 are up in the 50's (and one of them has settled down and is getting married next month... and he also dumpster dove a lot by his own admission).

Banging anywhere in the realm of 100 girls is a real lot by typical standards. Average sex partners over a lifetime for a man I'm pretty sure is single digit. This forum gives you a skewed perspective.

Post: #329

(09-05-2016 01:00 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Of all my friends who aren't part of this community, most of them have banged girls in the single digits. 3 or 4 are >10, and only 2 are up in the 50's (and one of them has settled down and is getting married next month... and he also dumpster dove a lot by his own admission).

Banging anywhere in the realm of 100 girls is a real lot by typical standards. Average sex partners over a lifetime for a man I'm pretty sure is single digit. This forum gives you a skewed perspective.

This forum always makes me feel like I've under-achieved. My notch count moved into the 20s recently and I still feel like I am playing catch up. Then I remembered out of my good friends from school the next highest would be 5 or 6. Most of them are on 2 or 3.

RVF sure keeps you on your toes.

Post: #330

Spending your time trying to catch up to the unverified notch counts of anonymous posters on a forum is a waste of time.

Post: #331

What sample size are we talking about ?

Globally, 2/3 are very poor compared to Western standards:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/08/news/eco...ow-income/

The other 1/3 is held back by race, religion, wealth distribution etc. A very small percentage of men have the freedom to learn game and even less choose to do so.

Post: #332

(09-05-2016 02:52 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Spending your time trying to catch up to the unverified notch counts of anonymous posters on a forum is a waste of time.

haha. That is so true. I spent a little while really depressed when I was reading various 'notch count' threads on various pickup/game forums.

Then I realised, at the end of the day, this is the internet! For all we know it could all be fantasy.

Personally, i'd be happy if I could achieve an 'average' number before I die. From what I read, average is about 10.

I do know someone who is not yet 30 who has apparently banged about 500 girls. However, he is 6ft 5 and ripped to shreds and has a very handsome face. He was also a holiday rep in Magaluf for like 6 years in a row for teh summers! (not sure if US people know about Magaluf, but i'm sure any Europeans will realise that this would have helped his count! Even I got laid in Magaluf and girls don't like me!)

Post: #333

(09-05-2016 02:52 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Spending your time trying to catch up to the unverified notch counts of anonymous posters on a forum is a waste of time.

Not entirely. Obsessing over it might be silly. But a little motivation is good. If it weren't for this place, my notch count would probably still be 2 or 3. I don't care if everyone here turns out to be lying. They've pushed me to improve.

Post: #334

(09-05-2016 03:21 PM)subterfuge Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 02:52 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Spending your time trying to catch up to the unverified notch counts of anonymous posters on a forum is a waste of time.

haha. That is so true. I spent a little while really depressed when I was reading various 'notch count' threads on various pickup/game forums.

Then I realised, at the end of the day, this is the internet! For all we know it could all be fantasy.

Personally, i'd be happy if I could achieve an 'average' number before I die. From what I read, average is about 10.

I do know someone who is not yet 30 who has apparently banged about 500 girls. However, he is 6ft 5 and ripped to shreds and has a very handsome face. He was also a holiday rep in Magaluf for like 6 years in a row for teh summers! (not sure if US people know about Magaluf, but i'm sure any Europeans will realise that this would have helped his count! Even I got laid in Magaluf and girls don't like me!)

I have fucked 8 in my life. I am going to shoot for 15 in a 1 plus year time frame. If I do not reach it. That is ok. I am a recovering beta. You gotta hit rock bottom and realize it, to appreciate being at the top.

Post: #335

I feel once you get past 20 bangs or so (depending on age), notch count can be a pretty misleading metric for judging success with women. For starters your age, situation and location will have a massive bearing on your numbers. For example an out of shape loser with some basic level game who's spent a few years in the Philippines could easily have 2-3x the notch count of the best daygamers in Europe. If not more.

All the guys I know who claim to be 100+ here in Singapore bang utter crap on the regular and seemingly suffer from a gasping desperate need for validation by trying to impress their mates with how many chicks they're rattling.

Notch count has it's place but for me quality of chick (relative to a dude's looks/situation) is the main measure of a guy's game. Bar a few solid lads I've met from RVF, almost all of the best players I know don't have that high a notch count. Mainly because they're very selective and turn down a lot of otherwise pretty bangable girls to focus going after the top end ones. That and will also spend a considerable amount of time in relationships with said top end chicks*, hence sidelined from chasing pussy (or at least having to tone it down).

As they say you don't ONS a 10...

*The kind of chick the above mentioned 100+ notch guys wouldn't have a hope of banging never mind being able to hold down as a girlfriend.

Post: #336

(09-05-2016 04:03 PM)Irish Wrote:  I feel once you get past 20 bangs or so (depending on age), notch count can be a pretty misleading metric for judging success with women. For starters your age, situation and location will have a massive bearing on your numbers. For example an out of shape loser with some basic level game who's spent a few years in the Philippines could easily have 2-3x the notch count of the best daygamers in Europe. If not more.

All the guys I know who claim to be 100+ here in Singapore bang utter crap on the regular and seemingly suffer from a gasping desperate need for validation by trying to impress their mates with how many chicks they're rattling.

Notch count has it's place but for me quality of chick (relative to a dude's looks/situation) is the main measure of a guy's game. Bar a few solid lads I've met from RVF, almost all of the best players I know don't have that high a notch count. Mainly because they're very selective and turn down a lot of otherwise pretty bangable girls to focus going after the top end ones. That and will also spend a considerable amount of time in relationships with said top end chicks*, hence sidelined from chasing pussy (or at least having to tone it down).

As they say you don't ONS a 10...

*The kind of chick the above mentioned 100+ notch guys wouldn't have a hope of banging never mind being able to hold down as a girlfriend.

I am at this stage now, where banging mediocre chicks feels like a waste of time. Rather stay home and read or lift. Not that I've dumpster dived a lot, I'd say there's only 4 or 5 girls in my history that I wouldn't bang again. But now that I want better quality, it feels like I'm having to learn the game all over again.

Post: #337

(09-05-2016 02:29 PM)Gas Wrote:  This forum always makes me feel like I've under-achieved. My notch count moved into the 20s recently and I still feel like I am playing catch up. Then I remembered out of my good friends from school the next highest would be 5 or 6. Most of them are on 2 or 3.

RVF sure keeps you on your toes.

Catch up to what?

The red pill to me includes not comparing yourself to others except to see potential. There is no "catching up" to potential.

Value quality, not quantity.

Post: #338

100+ of fatties is nothing to brag about. 100+ hot women is a good accomplishment.

Post: #339

Closer was banned.But I don't think his claim was ridiculous.
SA game is its own beast.
I wouldn't do it long term. But I tried it out on a break and banged 10 girls a little more than 2 weeks...
There was a period when I had three girls in 24 hours and I took a couple days off in exhaustion.

If you truly had a month's time to bullshit and line up girls.it would be easy to hit a girl a day in any sized city.

If I didn't work a 14 hour day.. The count would easily be twice that.
I also paid nothing but ubers for girls.

Post: #340

(09-05-2016 05:18 PM)ivansirko Wrote:  The red pill to me includes not comparing yourself to others except to see potential. There is no "catching up" to potential.

I don't mean 'catch up' in the literal sense. I'm not trying to match anyone elses notches here. I mean I'm catching up on 25 years of wasted time. Bang a girl. Then I think, well, don't get too excited. You should have been banging girls like her 10 years ago.

I compare myself to other guys here all the time. Not just for girls, but for fitness, money, style, knowledge. When I think I'm doing well, I'm always reminded that I can still do better.

It doesn't cause me to feel less proud of my progress. It's actually the opposite - it motivates me. I'll be sitting at home doing silly shit, read some RVF, 10 minutes later I'm getting ready for the gym or heading out to the bar to talk to girls. I need to be pushed.

Maybe in a few years when I'm further along I'll no longer need that for motivation but for now that's what works for me.

Post: #341

(09-05-2016 05:30 PM)eradicator Wrote:  100+ of fatties is nothing to brag about. 100+ hot women is a good accomplishment.

I'd guess the large majority of the world's male population couldn't bang 100 fatties. You still need to have minimum game. As in you still need to be able to approach...you still need to go out and meet them...you still need to close. Hell, Roosh posted the ad of a fattie hooker on Twitter a while back. Guys out there are actually paying money to bang fatties. They're reserving appointments on the internet to bang one extreme fattie. Imagine how far they have to go before they have the social skills to pick up 100 fatties at the bar.

Not to say banging fatties makes you a player, but like we said before, this forum skews things.

Post: #342

Once you're getting into the realm of "wouldn't recognise #20 through to #50 if I saw them on the street" then a number is pretty abstract.

The posts above are correct. Who would you be trying to impress anyway? A bunch of guys on the interwebs that will probably take you for a liar? Other players who aren't really interested?

Obsessing over a number is bad policy. Do that and you become like the guy with chicken-legs who brags about how much he can bench.

Post: #343

The issue is quality not quantity. Any guy with $10k in his bank account can go to Bangkok and screw a hundred hookers.

Post: #344

A lot of guys are 'making up for missing out' so they chase notches like no tomorrow. You can thank our hedonistic hookup culture for that.

Post: #345

I would also say not to discount guys with high numbers as dudes that go for low quality.

I could bang American college sluts left and right. I like a walk away from the college bar area.
But those girls are much lower quality.

At the same time.. I pulled great quality in Hungary on repeat. And I know plenty of guys smashing quality chicks in quantity amounts.

It's a combination of things.

Living in a place that naturally has higher quality, coupled with great refined game. You can rack up high numbers.


The problem I notice with a lot of players is that they spend so much time chasing girls that they aren't well rounded.
If you have a great job, make money, have all your personal effects in order..
It will be much easier to run game.

I've met his on and on forum that go to bars and try to get girls to buy their drink because they don't have their own money.

If you can't realistically afford to go out.. Or you live with a gaggle of roommates in a pig pen...you should work on those aspects of life.

Then, quality girls will come in quantity.

Post: #346

I think quality over quantity is not absolute.

Would you rather: Die with a notch count of 1, albeit a perfect 10; or a notch count of a hundred 7s and 8s?

Notches matter. Men need to experience abundance.

Post: #347

(09-06-2016 08:30 AM)Lance Blastoff Wrote:  The issue is quality not quantity. Any guy with $10k in his bank account can go to Bangkok and screw a hundred hookers.

Paying for it never counts as a notch.

Post: #348

Just to add my two cents, I'm currently at 93 notches (very close to triple-digit territory) and I feel like I have a LONG way to go.
I'm 22, turning 23 very soon here. Been night gaming at bars/clubs a lot. For sure every Friday and Saturday night barring any extreme circumstances and during the summertime when I am out of university, it is not uncommon for me to go out 6-7 nights of the week.
I GRIND, I read a lot of game theory and apply and change on a constant basis. I put in a lot of work. For the raw amount of hours I spent "out in the field gaming," my notch count seems to be a very small return on my investment.
Especially considered that a lot of the earlier notches were with sub-par women (6's, fatties, etc). I will say that now the quality has sky-rocketed and I am retaining some of my more beautiful notches as girlfriends / fuck buddies and this next level that I am at is actually amazing (I used to get ghosted by girls I banged all the time back when still learning).

That being said, I still can't help but find I can't get laid unless I go cold-approach at a bar or go cold-approach during day gaming. Social circle game is still elusive to me, and its the type of game I want to master since I am in university. It just seems that girls in my social circles always seem to go for guys other than me, even uglier, less cool guys and whatnot. Clearly, this is an issue with me that I need to fix but I can't seem to pinpoint what the issue itself is.

Tangent aside, 100+ notches is not impressive to me. I'm almost at 100 notches, and I'm certainly not where I want to be.

Post: #349

100 is insane number I don't care what anybody say. Got dudes on here like 100 nothing. I don't believe y'all. Keep it trill I got around 20 notches I been gaming since I was 14 years old. Y'all must be shooting blanks by now. Over 100 girls no kids. Condoms suck only half a bang.

After 40 notches I don't see myself banging anything less than 9s and dimes. The steaks will get higher higher as I get older. No need wasting time gaming measly 6-7pfft. Im gonna turn boogie than a bitch lol. Quality over quantity.

I'm obbesed with game to.I don't even watch sports gaming ho's my favorite sport.. I love women. Not just for sex. Some y'all too macho you telling me you don't like just kicking it with a female not even fucking. Just kissing on her soft skin. Smell of her curly hair freshly shampoos fresh out the shower pressed on your face. I like romantic shit too keeps things interesting. Keeps me interesting. I don't see the depth in 100 bangs

Even banging 3 girls same time gets pretty tiresome for me rather go street racing or engage one my hobbies. After a while sex lose its meaning. Like taking a piss or crap. I don't wanna just fuck her I want her mind and soul. Maybe even a bankroll.

I cant hate though if you need bang over 100+ average hoes more power to you.impressive most guys not fucking over 10. Even if I was famous I wouldn't fuck that much unless we talking dimes finest pussy in town, type dudes can't get.. Even then you realize some of the finest bitches in town are prostitues especially out here in Toronto. These girls selling they ass like no tomorrow. So I don't go to crazy over dime piece sometimes they the biggest sluts.

IMA player for life though even when I have a wife I will have multiple side pussy. But approaching over 10000 bitches aint in my plans.

I rather get famous and have hoe's chase me.. Less work

For average guy 100 bangs will require atleast 1000-10000 approaches. I dont even think i apporach 1000 girls in my life lol and im gaming for 8 years lol. I admit I don't go out as much maybe once every week at the most. With that said My batting average still one of the best in the game. I make each approach very captivating.

Post: #350

I'm on like 5 and i'm 30! - I hope to get to around 8 before I die