Post: #1

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicbl...e-misogyny
Interesting article
To be fair to the girl, I don't think she's the typical OTT feminist type looking for every excuse to rain down on men
The likes of Planningtorock and Cocorosie sometimes get on my nerves with their anti hetero-men comments, but this chick is not that type
Seems like she's been getting the sharp end of the stick from assorted trolls and sexless music nerds (I've met a few in my time!)
Thoughts?

Post: #2

That is a legitimate problem for her. People can be crazy obnoxious online.

Post: #3

For those too lazy to read it, let me translate the whole thing in one sentence:

"I"m an average looking woman, but if I "complain" about how much attention I get online, it'll up my SMV and get me ever more attention!"

This is the Jezebel playbook, by the way. Remember the Lindy West article where she kept getting interrupted by alleged "catcalls?"

Post: #4

(10-01-2013 02:57 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  For those too lazy to read it, let me translate the whole thing in one sentence:

"I"m an average looking woman, but if I "complain" about how much attention I get online, it'll up my SMV and get me ever more attention!"

This is the Jezebel playbook, by the way. Remember the Lindy West article where she kept getting interrupted by alleged "catcalls?"

Welcome to fame, where you openly state your existence to every crazy in the world, and instill in them the belief they have every right to open a personal dialogue with you.

I'd also argue that being a music personality, male or female, is turning yourself into an object. You need to be commodified to be sold, and since the general public can't handle complexity, you'd better make your image one-dimensional. There is far greater fame available for being a sexualised fantasy object than being, say, a prim and boring Natalie Merchant.

Anyway, the music is trite synth pop, the band is made up of ex-university students, and the lead singer did a Masters in Journalism. She knows exactly what she's doing.

Personally, I lost all interest in Indie Music when it devolved over the post-Napster decade into exactly this: the bored dilettante children of privilige chasing fame, as working class kids can no longer afford to be in bands. None of these uni kids can be arsed to learn musicianship or craft, but want equal attention to those who do, for their godawful, directionless, tuneless navel-gazing.

Game Tip: many young women at university go through their 'rock star' phase and buy a guitar, until they realise, 'omg learning guitar is harrrrd'. They then lose interest because reward takes effort and effort is for men, so sell these barely-touched instruments via social media. This is where I step in. I go to look at said instrument, display my skills, and, usually, the light bulb goes off in their head the same way: "I can use this guy for the hard grunt work, and get all the attention by being the lead singer."

Of course, they first have to interest me in working with them. You can guess the obvious route they take.

Aside from a few outliers, (Joni Mitchell, Kate Bush, Carole King, Wendy and Lisa, Carol Kaye), female artists are all supported by men doing the heavy lifting in writing, playing, and production. This isn't sexism or misogyny at all. Most women simply can't be arsed to put in the kind of effort music takes: a school of thought says it takes 10,000 hours of time devoted to their craft to master it.

This is why there's a flood of 'cutesy 60's girl band' throwbacks in the indie scene: it's not incompetence you're hearing, it's twee with a dose of irony.

Post: #5

^ Brilliant stuff once again sir.