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(10-31-2013 06:31 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote: (09-30-2013 12:27 AM)We The Real Wrote: Now LA would make sense, many people in the business have suggested no better place for music, share a sweet crib wit 3 people for a 1k each tht has a gym pool beach.. sounded cool. However I was under the impression LA was always hot. I looked up its climate over the past ten years, and its not really that hot. 50 degress with wind is chilly.
You should go to San Diego. Warmer than LA.
Plus the no rain factor would help you I think.
Or Norte Baja.
I'm not a fan of clouds...this sounds better climate wise.
I've met Burning Spear, E-40, Kid Cudi, and Chris Rush. N just now got star struck lol
Thanks G
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RE: Your Experience With Out Shelter
(10-14-2013 09:33 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote: (10-14-2013 07:12 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but how does one shower when living in a car?
I knew some kid who used my college's gym but then again he was a student and just had to swipe his ID.
You could get a gym membership and shower there - the first thing I'd do if homeless was lock down a gym membership and a library card. If you had a private location in the woods or put up some type of barrier, you could shower using a solar shower, a garden hose, or a bucket of water. You can create your own solar shower by lying out coiled black water hose or black bucket on a roof or other surface and leaving it full of water (buckets can be painted black as well). You can bathe in rivers, lakes, and streams. You could get someone you know to give you access to their shower, possibly trading a bit of labor to use it on a regular basis. Camper vans or small RVs (you can pick up a Toyota Dolphin or something similar for $4 - $6K, and they get 20mpg) might have a shower already.
Absent of all the above or in a pinch, you could freshen up by cleaning yourself with moist towelettes, baby wipes, or a wet washcloth.
Obviously, the best route is the first one, though it requires a set location to be economically feasible for a homeless person; then again, if traveling, you could get a membership at a gym chain with facilities in most major cities.
Am I advocating any of this? Not necessarily, but I think that brainstorming about homelessness is a great opportunity to exercise your capacity for creative thinking and resourcefulness. Our cushy, wasteful lives make us soft, but we're much more resilient and capable than we give ourselves credit for. Most things that seem too uncomfortable, embarrassing, or demeaning to us only seem that way because of our conditioning and life paradigms.
This can be overcome by peeling back the curtain society has pulled over the human experience. Or in times of necessity. There are more uncomfortable things in life than sleeping in vans and cars - beyond physical trauma, disabilities, sleeping in the dirt, and other types of suffering, this might simply include the pride lost in depending on other people for your lot in life or being stuck in a situation that drives you mad. With that in mind and a bit of stoic philosophy, you easily adjust.
What would you do if you lost it all and suddenly had nothing? What could you do if you wanted to unplug from your dependence on modern society and live on nothing for a short time? Or if the unimaginable happened and you were suddenly fleeing from unjust persecution by the law or for your life without the proper budget to do so?
You never know where your life will take you. Or when you might need the skill of out-of-the-box thinking.
On a lighter note, I have plans to someday buy a camper van, Toyota Dolphin, or some other type of small RV and tour America one of these days. That said, I'll have money too, relying on my online business so that I can still live relatively comfortable rather than like a homeless person. Then again, I may just get a motorcycle, a tent, and a sleeping bag instead - obviously more rugged and uncomfortable, but if we can't trade our modern-day comforts for liberating raw experience from time to time, can we still call ourselves men?
Do I plan to slay women from coast to coast living that way? Not really, though I'm sure opportunities would arise. Anyways, pussy isn't everything.
I thought of the gym membership recently. Over here in Ny Planet Fitness is 10 bucks/month and you can go to any of there locations.
Thanks for the naturalistic shower idea, idk about the hose and buckets would have to stash in the woods. From what I've been told and read CA has a great wildlife, but its not like ny MTA lol
I agree with you 100% on the stoic belief when surviving.
I've come to see that "living" is not true life. Survive and then everything else literally feels like a game. With that said, Hell yea you gotta feel True hunger that clogs your mind While still focused to the next meal, almost give up of dehydration, and be on the verge of death because you fucked up and now its pure will power that pushes where ever its going. Then it feels like a game. To me , that's been my experience.
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RE: Your Experience With Out Shelter
(11-01-2013 04:10 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote: My question is, why don't you plan ahead, get a decent job, and get a house? Even get a job where you are for a couple months just to save up some money. It doesn't make sense to me why someone would willingly be homeless. You're not really making your situation any better. When you're homeless it's just going to be harder to get a job. No employer wants to hire someone who looks like they slept on the beach last night. I wish you the best of luck, but just think about it. Moving out there homeless can be digging yourself in a hole. Hell, I moved to south beach with only $1600 and hopes that I would be able to collect unemployment. I looked hard and found a place to get me on my feet for $600.
Thanks for the great advice Int Playboy, I would have done this if the situation was any different.
I believe in working with devotion. I can't work some w,e job just to make money, I've done that. Side hustles and all.. that shit doesn't last. I made it just to make it with a pretense of a plan, which turned to harboring me down in a perpetual state of stillness. I look at money today as a resource, as valuable as water. What do I do with 10 gallons of water if i have to descend half a mile down a mountain before sun down. Useless. I will waste most of it. With that said, I have a plan. Not your typical but then again, Never Regular!
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RE: Your Experience With Out Shelter
Many, many options for showering and using the bathroom. Ideally you would be showering and shitting at the houses of the girls you are pulling every night...
Seriously, google "hanging solar shower" or bag shower. Of course, if you have an RV then you might even have a nice hot shower all the time. You can also go to state parks. You can get really nice showers free at truckstops. Go to the lounge and ask a trucker for his shower pass (they get them free several times a day).
For using the bathroom, a 24 hour gas station/ 7 eleven works pretty good. If you are parked at someone's house then you can use their bathroom. The goal is to have a network of people to stay with in all the cities. Couchsurfing.com is excellent for that. also, The west coast people are MUCH more accepting and will help you out.
The ideal vehicle would be one that blends in anywhere and also has all conveniences. A cargo van with a shower and toilet built in would be ideal. It would have to be highly customized like a mini RV. You could park it anywhere and no one would know you are living in it. Then every week or two you go to a state park and empty the toilet/tank. You can also get compost toilets that require no water, cost over $1,000 though.
However, for just trying the lifestyle, you are fine with an unmodified van or minivan, simply put a mattress back there. might need some plywood. Going to the bathroom/showering you get used to timing it. Occasional drives to the 24 hour gas station bathroom in the middle of the night are the cost you pay for the freedom.
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RE: Your Experience With Out Shelter
(11-01-2013 05:09 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote: I agree. If you're homeless in America you gave up, I have no sympathy. I walked 60 blocks in a suit in October in Miami, 88 degrees and full humidity to find a job to get on my feet when I first moved there. I'd do it every day until I found something making only $10 an hour. You know what I did after that, I walked another 60 blocks in scorching heat in a suit on my days off to find something better. You know what? I found something better and I was making more than double my original pay 2 months after moving there.
After living in 3rd world countries, I have to agree. America is pretty easy to make your fortune. However, I chose to live in my van because I liked the freedom and adventure. I like visiting communes and music festivals. I love the west coast.
I have a little fixed income coming in every month, so I was never truly bumming it though. But, yes, the OP needs to evaluate his goals and match them with realistic expectations. I don't know much about Miami. Women like mavericks though. I think there might be an angle he could work. But Miami is not the place that comes to mind when I think of living in a van. However, maybe it could be decked out like a disco club or something. Every city has a certain percentage of women looking for something different. Try to find the hippy girls. Go to whole foods, yoga studios, raves, art shows, etc.
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RE: Your Experience With Out Shelter
(11-01-2013 10:43 AM)kavakid Wrote: Many, many options for showering and using the bathroom. Ideally you would be showering and shitting at the houses of the girls you are pulling every night... 
Seriously, google "hanging solar shower" or bag shower. Of course, if you have an RV then you might even have a nice hot shower all the time. You can also go to state parks. You can get really nice showers free at truckstops. Go to the lounge and ask a trucker for his shower pass (they get them free several times a day).
For using the bathroom, a 24 hour gas station/ 7 eleven works pretty good. If you are parked at someone's house then you can use their bathroom. The goal is to have a network of people to stay with in all the cities. Couchsurfing.com is excellent for that. also, The west coast people are MUCH more accepting and will help you out.
The ideal vehicle would be one that blends in anywhere and also has all conveniences. A cargo van with a shower and toilet built in would be ideal. It would have to be highly customized like a mini RV. You could park it anywhere and no one would know you are living in it. Then every week or two you go to a state park and empty the toilet/tank. You can also get compost toilets that require no water, cost over $1,000 though.
However, for just trying the lifestyle, you are fine with an unmodified van or minivan, simply put a mattress back there. might need some plywood. Going to the bathroom/showering you get used to timing it. Occasional drives to the 24 hour gas station bathroom in the middle of the night are the cost you pay for the freedom.
Gettin pussy to feel fresh then freshen up. solar shower sounds dope yo, Thanks!
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