Post: #26

Foundation is happening, but Club Q is better and the drinks less watered down and less meta-head Asian wanna-be gangstas...but both are hand down better than the myriad hispter rock joints. I think Foundation is far too small to indulge a 3rd of it's floor space to a raised bottle service area...leave that non-dancing bourgeois shit for Bellevue. the old school Raver in me gets angry.

Post: #27

I think I posted the story on here already but I post again. I am from South Texas. Never heard of a fuckin hipster before. My premobilization was ij Srattle so I was stucknout there for four months before I left the country. My buddies and I went out on one of our first night.

So we started bar hopping. All of a sudden we see a fee guys dress up in slacks, suspenders, and glasses. Some of the glasses had a piece of white tape in the middle of the frame. 2 turned into 10 turned into 50. We are sitting there like what the fuck is this shit.

Come to find out we were at Capitol Hill and we stopped in the Q Club. Never seen some crazy shit like that before. Maybe it was a dress like Urkel day but we saw this at a few other bars too.

Them West Coasters be on some other type of shit.

As far as Tacoma. I was compare the Seattle vs Tacoma to the San Fran vs Oakland. Seattle=money, white/Asian. Tacoma=Poor/Black and Mexican. Ft. Lewis is near Tacoma so every so often you hear stories about soldiers getting in brawls, robbed and other types of shit. I dont remember what places we partied at down there but one thing I do love about the area are the mixes. Black and Asian has to be a top five mix in the world.

Post: #28

yeah Texasmade, Hispter's are he vampiric plague of western youth...they are as intellectually vapid as they are aesthetically terrible...the ultimate by-product of a completely self-obsessed narcissistic society. Basically they import fashion from more important past era's...the 19th century/WWII/The 60's/70's punk, etc...and whirr them in a blender of meaninglessness so as to extract those movement's 'cool' whilst displacing their meaning entirely...they defang and make impotent past political and social movements for their own nauseating ends...in a word, they are evil.

Post: #29

FTTF, I'm not much of a club guy myself. That's why I geared my recommendations toward date venues and the like. I'm a good dancer, but I also have good conversational skills so I prefer to put them to good use. I can usually lock up a girl if we've got a good vibe going and I can talk to her in my normal voice.

Post: #30

Somehow this datasheet missed Pesos in Lower Queen Anne...by far the most famous bar in Seattle in the past 10 years when it comes to a meat market......you can literally walk in there and pull all kinds of chicks...

it does have a little bit of a frat dickish attitude but you can easily work around those idiots. If a girl is single in Seattle and wants to go out and get hit on and she is 25-29 she will be at pesos, all you have to do is punch her ticket.

I always have the tendency to binge drink at this bar for some reason so make sure you don't get too fucked up, stick to the right side of the bar or near the bar rails, most of the groups of girls hang out in those locations for some reason.

Overall Seattle I believe is not the best town for going out and it doesn't have a great night-life energy, but that is slowly changing as Seattle is urbanizing itself with young professionals due to the robust economy.

IMO the best bang for you buck if your time in limited in Seattle

Queen Anne - Pesos or Touloose (they are owned by the same guy and are next door to eachother)
Capitol Hill - Barca has a good floorplan for hitting on chicks, I always have good success here
Ballard - Bal Mar or Matador (they are across the street from each other)
Belltown - 10 years ago, this was the place in seattle, somehow it has turned into a hell hole. Rob Roy is okay, El Gaucho is great lounge spot for lounge atmosphere, but the crowd is much older
Downtown - The W Hotel usually has a good crowd in there but the rest of downtown besides zig zag (cocktail lounge) is pretty piss poor.

Post: #31

Pesos was pretty hoppin' when I was there. Unfortunately I was with a chick on antidepressants for the Nine Inch Nails concert. Weird night.

Post: #32

This seattle vlog is fucking hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl6BNqKrE2o

Why seattle sucks.

At 4:13 the guy goes into the social aspect of why seattle sucks.

Post: #33

(02-17-2014 04:20 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  This seattle vlog is fucking hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl6BNqKrE2o

Why seattle sucks.

At 4:13 the guy goes into the social aspect of why seattle sucks.

delete

Post: #34

Just back from four days in Seattle.

I was down there for a wedding so I was out every night, both with the wedding folk and without.

First off I took the Amtrak down so I could work and not have to deal with that hell strip I5. I cleared customs at Pacific Central Station in Vancouver which is big bonus of taking the train. The conductor asked me out on a date (guy) but I just channeled my girl game and ignored him. He became very awkward from then on and would try and avoid me.

I Ubered the whole time I was there and had a car lined up from King Street station to my hotel at the Fairmont Olympic. I love the Fairmont group and while the hotel we dope, most of the guests were much older than the Fairmonts I have stayed at in the past. They upgraded me to a huge room on the same floor as the massive suite the wedding afterparty was to be held at.

So far I have been in Seattle for under an hour and have seen only one bangable girl (receptionist, Asian, 7).

Last time I was in town I hit up Uni Sake House in Belltown so I head there. I see a couple decent looking Asian girls (foodies) with some guys. One decent looking girl working. Thats it. I concentrate on my sushi and saki.

After I hit up Gin Bathtub again. Doorman actually remembers me from last summer. Chat with him for a bit and head inside. Take a peak downstairs and then settle upstairs at the bar. Its busy and I just beat the rush so I have a good spot. One nice looking woman there until she gets up and is shaped like a pear. I talk with the bartender and a couple next to me. Turns out she works at Fairmont and gets some goodies sent up to my room for when I bring a girl back. Nice.

Finally my type rolls in. I have been in this city for almost 12 hours and have seen less than five hot women. In Vancouver I would have seen countless in that time. The fuck is going on here?

She is tall and blonde and American looking. Nice style, casual but classy with long tanned legs and big milk fed titties. I have my fingers crossed that she was from Minnesota (last time in Seattle Minnesota was good to me). She was from Seattle/San Fran/Scottsdale. I just could not get anything going with her, and her three other friends were hovering in the small space. She was not even nice, friendly or anything. Just whatever. I wanted to bang her so I held in longer than I wanted but in the end I started to kind of hate her so I eject and call Uber. Home it is.

Wedding is at the University of Washington. Girl is an Expedia employee and Guy is Microsoft. They met on campus in some computer related post grad studies. All their friends work for Amazon or Microsoft. Her brother works for Lockhead and is a rocket scientist. I havent seen him in a while so we have a good time catching up. He is a smooth cat, dresses cool and is handsome. He introduces me to his wife who I cant tell if she is pregnant or fat. Turns out she is both.

The wedding is mostly Asian women in the 4-7 range with nerdy poorly dressed tech guys. The Asian women have landed the jackpot and they know it, so they dress like moms in sandals and sun dresses with no makeup and poorly maintained hair. Seattle really is Vancouvers bizarro world. The hottest woman in the room is about 40 with a teenage daughter who is her "best friend in the world" but I can tell she is living vicariously through her daughter. "See, this is how a man should dress. What is that you do for work?" Compared to the tech geeks there I am James Bond.

Turns out the Fairmont got word of the party in the Chairmans suite and gave them a warning, so they moved the party to a rented house just off campus. My air tight logistics just went out the window, but the only woman I wanted to bang was the 40yo. Seattle is messing with my head.

I Uber over to the house party (I offer rides to people, but everyone drove). Its actaully a dope spot but I was hoping it was in some frat hood but its not of course. More of the same, I sip some damn good tequila and try breaking the ice. It is not easy, anything outside of tech is just met with blank stares. I even said fuck it and starting telling the women I have a luxury brand of womens erotic toys (true). Even that was met with bewilderment. This town is so under sexed it is not even funny.

I bolt and head up to Capital Hill. I had a spot at Needle and Thread so I head there and call up to get in. Shout out to Aphelion for this. Dope spot. There is even a hot chick in here! I say hi and see her dance over to a group of short hair stumpies while giving me the "eye". The stumpies are also giving me the "eye".

I sit up at the bar and the girl who took my reservation comes over and introduces herself. She had no vocal fry over the phone so I was hoping she was hot as we had a good vibe over the phone. She commented on how my voice is incredible and she was looking forward to meeting me. She was OK, but I know I would not have been able to get hard for her (my dick is getting very picky with age).

The female bartender has about 15 guests and is running around like the place is on fire. No conversation here. Women are good bartenders but shitty conversationalists. Therefore they make mediocre to poor bartenders at a place where most people seem to drink alone or in small groups.

I chat with a rugby player from Taiwan and his brother in law from Philadelphia. I am nursing my cocktail (delicious) and hoping for some women to roll in. Finally see two aging beauties (about 40yo) roll in. My dick responds but they are shuffled off to an out of the way corner by the hostess. Did she just cockblock me? I wander over anyway and chatted with them. “Hahah! So what is that you do?” Really woman? You are looking for another husband?

Most of the attractive women in Seattle are 15 years past their prime. It may have been a goldmine in year 2000 but now its only good for guys in their 40s and 50s, according to an older player I chatted with at the next bar. These women prey on tech guys and clean them out before they turn 40. This is the scene that he moves in. 40yo, wealthy, aging beauties.

I bounce and head to Liberty. Fuck this city makes me want to drink scotch and smoke cigerettes and bitch about women. I have found the right place. This older player buys me some $50 dollar a glass scotch and we chat about Seattle. The girls here don’t have to care about appearances, land beta bux anyway and are happy in lazy early retirement. The few genuinely hot women are with guys or are one in a group of 10 of uglies.

I sleep in and enjoy the hotel amenities before heading down to my lunch spot, Fonte. Third day in a row here for lunch and again this is the only place that has had consistent beauties. The place is busy but there are commune tables which is good for logistics. I see what looks like a smoke show with two other older women sitting at a large table. I ask if the seat is available and sit down. We chat a bit, and the mother is very flirty. We actually have a really good banter going, and the smoke show is visibly annoyed/ embarrassed. The other daughter is only a couple years older than her younger hotter sister, but I thought she was in her 30’s. What is it that could make a 25 yo woman look 8 years older than she is? Lack of grooming is my guess. I bet she hated her sisters beauty so much growing up that she rebelled against all standards of beauty. Oh well, judging by the size of the rock on the younger sisters hand she has used her beauty and landed a techie to milk for some time.

The people seem genuinely happy in Seattle. The guys in Moores suits making $300K and marrying Asian 6’s who could be 7’s or 8’s think they have won the lottery. The bored women hanging out at Amazon socials counting days till divorce, as their men stand around with bad posture talking tech and drinking San Pellegrino. The aging beauties who are getting a second chance at the cock carousel and who are being swooped by the 50yo cats in custom Tom Ford and left waiting for invitations to some soiree that will never come. And the 50yo smooth millionaires who prefer Vancouver on the weekends because the escorts are hotter, drugs purer, and getting caught in your own back yard with a 20yo Russian girl doing lines is a big no no to anyone who’s paycheck says Amazon.

Post: #35

Laner, very good insight.

How can you compare Vancouver dating scene/easiness of getting 7-8-9's in Vancouver (no matter race) on a scale for a white dude? How does Van compares to better then Seattle US cities in this case? Also the social factor. Do people afraid of socialize/meet new people, friends?

I am having a great friend of mine in Vancouver and she invites me/I am planning on moving permanently to the city of Van in 1 year to settle down.

From what I've heard Vancouver bets Seattle by any of the means, it's just a lower paid salaries and higher real estate prices. But you get what you paying for. But anyways with 6-7K after taxes hopefully there is an affordable decent living in Van?

Post: #36

Vancouver is a severely over priced city. Way too much foreign money flowing in and inflating real estate prices out of the stratosphere. The girls
are way too snobby and high maintenance.

If you want hot women in Seattle, go to the eastside suburbs of Seattle. Like Bellevue, Redmond, Kirkland.

Post: #37

(06-19-2014 11:10 AM)Fighting888 Wrote:  Vancouver is a severely over priced city. Way too much foreign money flowing in and inflating real estate prices out of the stratosphere. The girls are way too snobby and high maintenance.

Yeah, it's funny if they are high maintenance because the salaries are not the top notch and the city is not overwhelming big for that matter, neighboring Seattle offers much bigger salaries for a working males. And if they have such an attitude, I guess they are just hunting for a foreign Chinese dudes who got the foreign paycheck.

Post: #38

^ Wow Seattle sounds like a black hole getting worse and worse I was there in 2008 for a few days, don't remember any hotties really. Portland seemed to have more fun hippy and hipster girls.

Glad I found this forum, my plan was to move to the PNW back then. Very glad I did not.

Life is short and fragile, I am in tech still wouldn't go there. Rather live in a place with tons of hot women that motivate me and become an entrepreneur.

Tech guys and mediocre Asian chicks a recipe for cultural and sexual purgatory.

Post: #39

(06-19-2014 11:19 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ Wow Seattle sounds like a black hole getting worse and worse I was there in 2008 for a few days, don't remember any hotties really. Portland seemed to have more fun hippy and hipster girls.

Glad I found this forum, my plan was to move to the PNW back then. Very glad I did not.

Life is short and fragile, I am in tech still wouldn't go there. Rather live in a place with tons of hot women that motivate me and become an entrepreneur.

The good looking women go clubbing in Bellevue. The hipsters go to Seattle.

Post: #40

(06-19-2014 11:18 AM)bulldog Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 11:10 AM)Fighting888 Wrote:  Vancouver is a severely over priced city. Way too much foreign money flowing in and inflating real estate prices out of the stratosphere. The girls are way too snobby and high maintenance.

Yeah, it's funny if they are high maintenance because the salaries are not the top notch and the city is not overwhelming big for that matter, neighboring Seattle offers much bigger salaries for a working males. And if they have such an attitude, I guess they are just hunting for a foreign Chinese dudes who got the foreign paycheck.

Honestly it's mostly inherited money. Lots of old money families and then Hong Kong high net-worth migrants. Salaries and jobs aren't anything special. Vancouver is getting a to point where normal people can't move in anymore. It's just so unreasonably priced. The main influx these days is from Chinese/HK millionaires and Indians who put 2 families in a house.

Post: #41

^ If all the hot girls are hidden away in clubs away from the city in Bellveue that is a bad sign for a city. Supply and access are limited.

If a mediocre 6 can land a handsome successful guy with relative easy it is a shit city. This seems to be what I've heard both on and off this board.

Post: #42

Can confirm about Bellevue. The one night hotspot is Lucky Strike, but again, overpriced drinks and overinflated attitudes.

Strongly considering Wroclaw Gambit III.

Post: #43

I'd still pick Seattle over Vancouver.

Post: #44

How's the coffee?

Post: #45

Decent but who cares about coffee?

Post: #46

(06-19-2014 04:44 PM)Vicious Wrote:  How's the coffee?

The coffee in the area is amazing. Go to Seattle coffee works next to Pike Place Market and it'll blow your face off.

Post: #47

The coffee is good. But it's 'side benefit of having to be here anyway' good, not 'come to Seattle partly for the coffee' good. It's not enough to make up for the tattooed, short-haired wannabe lesbians that this place is crawling with.

Post: #48

I forgot about this topic.

Summary for Seattle:

-Good looking women are in the eastside suburbs of Seattle (Bellevue, Redmond, Issaquah, Sammamish). Lots of talent, but women are high maintenance and expect to be spoiled.
-Women in the city of Seattle are fit, but too hipster and not particularly attractive. Lots of them are feminists. Though the University District has good looking women.
-There's a very vibrant nightlife in Pioneer Square (Seattle) and Bellevue/Kirkland. You'll get a decent selection of women.
-The ratio of single guys to single girls is way out of whack because of the IT industry, but honestly a lot of those guys aren't competition.
-The Seattle has a lot of scenic beauty and outdoors activities.
-Real estate prices are overinflated, but not horrendous.
-Rains too much.
-Fairly safe overall.
-Ethnic mix is mostly white/Asian, but there are some black and Latin chicks too.
-Lots of high paying working in IT and software.
-Traffic situation is horrendous.
-Coffee is good.
-Unfriendly people, often referred to as "Seattle Freeze."
-Definitely check out Mount Rainier and Bainbridge Island.
-Pike Street market is a pretty cool place to walk around.
-Check out the clubs Trinity and Element.

Summary for Vancouver:

-Like Seattle, very scenic city with a lot of outdoors activities.
-People, especially girls, are unfriendly and snobbish.
-Women are alright, you get a mix.
-Fairly safe, outside of some pockets of east Vancouver and the suburb of Surrey.
-If you have money, there are amazing options in shopping, entertainment, and dining.
-Lots of nice housing developments in North and West Vancouver.
-Gastown/Granville is where the clubbing action tends to be, it's nothing amazing but still decent.
-Very ethnically diverse, with lots of whites, Chinese, other Asians, Indians, and Persians. If you like Chinese girls, it's a good place to live.
-Black guys will do well in Vancouver. White guys will do well too, as there are a lot of single white girls who can't find BFs because a lot of the guys are dating Asian girls..... and Vancouver white girls tend not to like the Asian and Indian dudes.
-Unreasonably expensive because of all the foreign money (mostly from Hong Kong and mainland China) inflating real estates prices.
-Good transportation options.
-I liked the Bar None club.

Conclusion:

-Seattle is a good place to settle down when you're older, but the skewed gender ratio makes it not a particularly good place for a single guy. It's a good vacation spot, but come for the outdoor scenery and activities, not the women.

-Vancouver is too expensive for normal people to live in. It's a city very much designed for rich people. Though as a vacation spot, it can be excellent. Awesome city, but just too unaffordable and unfriendly women.

Post: #49

Sad, I used to dream of living in Portland or Seattle until I learned of all this years ago.

Santa Cruz seems like the only West Coast N.A. city outside SoCal that has good game opportunities overall.

Post: #50

Keep in mind Canada is much more expensive on the whole than the USA. Its similar to other Nordic countries in pricing. We go to the USA to throw money around because life is just that much cheaper there.

Making a call on prices as an American tourist is biased. If you are Canadian, live in Vancouver, make CDN$$ and have some skills the city is not that expensive. Its all relative. But as an American tourist all I hear is how expensive it is here. So what.

Of course if you want to buy a single family home on a nice lot in a good neighborhood you are in for some shock. House prices are pushing a million for a shit shack.

When it comes to women though Vancouver has the best on the west coast (in summer).