Post: #151

I say this as guy who is good looking, wealthy, but only 5'5... and currently has a 5'6 blond sleeping in his bed.

Sometimes there is nothing you can do about it. Certain women are biologically "programmed" to want tall men. It's usually short girls, or girls who are very tall. You're usually fine with girls who are 5'3-5'6; they tend to not give a shit. (I'm addicted to short girls. I find they're the hardest nuts to crack).

You can have cash, looks, fitness, hobbies, game, and pretty much everything and sometimes you'll just get blown out on the height issue.

My only advice is to wear boots and lift big. Every inch counts, especially when it comes to approaches. Once you bang them, the height issue usually goes away.

However, you also have to accept that some women simply won't date shorter men. Chalk it up to their loss. You don't want to date women who aren't physically attracted to you anyway -- it makes life too difficult. You want them to be offering you blowjobs, not begging for them.

Candidly, I got blown out this week for the "short" reason. I get the girl back to my house, get her naked, but she's putting up some LMR. I'm a bit surprised, but I'm cool about it, whatever. Usually once they're back at my house and naked it's game on. During the night we'd had tons of kino, kissing, etc. I thought I'd set it up pretty well.

Next day she sends me a text along these lines: "Hank, you're such a great guy, I had so much fun, and I so want to like you. But I can't get over the physical attraction thing. I just usually date guys who are 6 foot tall and over. I came back to your house for sex, but I just couldn't get over the height thing. I'm so sorry, because I love spending time with you. I really hope we can still hang out. I had so much fun with you."

It is what it is (and of course, she is still trying to hang out, and now getting pissed about my complete lack of interest). My response was along the line of "cool, no worries." Then she sent me a few texts along the lines of "I'd like to hang out. What are you up to?" I responded two days later very benignly, with basically "work stuff, kind of jammed up this week. love to hang but gotta make moves and shakes." And of course, this pissed her off, leading to a bunch of text messages about how awful men are, how bad dating is, yadda yadda.

Girl in my bed this morning? Sees I have morning wood and goes down on it without me asking or trying.

To quote the Rational Male, "desire cannot be negotiated."

"Some things are in our control and others not." -Epictetus

Post: #152

(04-07-2018 08:38 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  Candidly, I got blown out this week for the "short" reason. I get the girl back to my house, get her naked, but she's putting up some LMR. I'm a bit surprised, but I'm cool about it, whatever. Usually once they're back at my house and naked it's game on. During the night we'd had tons of kino, kissing, etc. I thought I'd set it up pretty well.

Next day she sends me a text along these lines: "Hank, you're such a great guy, I had so much fun, and I so want to like you. But I can't get over the physical attraction thing. I just usually date guys who are 6 foot tall and over. I came back to your house for sex, but I just couldn't get over the height thing. I'm so sorry, because I love spending time with you. I really hope we can still hang out. I had so much fun with you."

It is what it is (and of course, she is still trying to hang out, and now getting pissed about my complete lack of interest). My response was along the line of "cool, no worries." Then she sent me a few texts along the lines of "I'd like to hang out. What are you up to?" I responded two days later very benignly, with basically "work stuff, kind of jammed up this week. love to hang but gotta make moves and shakes." And of course, this pissed her off, leading to a bunch of text messages about how awful men are, how bad dating is, yadda yadda.

Post: #153

I'm 5'8 and in the UK I've never been rejected for my height, people say being is an advantage but if the average girl is 5'5 and 5'8 with heels on it's easier to forge a connection with someone when you are eye level then having to awkwardly bend down all the time, no?

Post: #154

(04-07-2018 09:30 AM)eL-JJ Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 08:38 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  Candidly, I got blown out this week for the "short" reason. I get the girl back to my house, get her naked, but she's putting up some LMR. I'm a bit surprised, but I'm cool about it, whatever. Usually once they're back at my house and naked it's game on. During the night we'd had tons of kino, kissing, etc. I thought I'd set it up pretty well.

Next day she sends me a text along these lines: "Hank, you're such a great guy, I had so much fun, and I so want to like you. But I can't get over the physical attraction thing. I just usually date guys who are 6 foot tall and over. I came back to your house for sex, but I just couldn't get over the height thing. I'm so sorry, because I love spending time with you. I really hope we can still hang out. I had so much fun with you."

It is what it is (and of course, she is still trying to hang out, and now getting pissed about my complete lack of interest). My response was along the line of "cool, no worries." Then she sent me a few texts along the lines of "I'd like to hang out. What are you up to?" I responded two days later very benignly, with basically "work stuff, kind of jammed up this week. love to hang but gotta make moves and shakes." And of course, this pissed her off, leading to a bunch of text messages about how awful men are, how bad dating is, yadda yadda.

That's so weird because sex is the last place height matters.

Don't be too aloof, though. This is a case where a little aggressiveness could bring the lay.

"Let's wait to hang out until you're ready to finish what we started. Sounds like height is new to you and you're not used to trying new things, but I'm sure you'll get past it soon."

Post: #155

(04-08-2018 12:32 AM)Catch 22 Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 09:30 AM)eL-JJ Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 08:38 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  Candidly, I got blown out this week for the "short" reason. I get the girl back to my house, get her naked, but she's putting up some LMR. I'm a bit surprised, but I'm cool about it, whatever. Usually once they're back at my house and naked it's game on. During the night we'd had tons of kino, kissing, etc. I thought I'd set it up pretty well.

Next day she sends me a text along these lines: "Hank, you're such a great guy, I had so much fun, and I so want to like you. But I can't get over the physical attraction thing. I just usually date guys who are 6 foot tall and over. I came back to your house for sex, but I just couldn't get over the height thing. I'm so sorry, because I love spending time with you. I really hope we can still hang out. I had so much fun with you."

It is what it is (and of course, she is still trying to hang out, and now getting pissed about my complete lack of interest). My response was along the line of "cool, no worries." Then she sent me a few texts along the lines of "I'd like to hang out. What are you up to?" I responded two days later very benignly, with basically "work stuff, kind of jammed up this week. love to hang but gotta make moves and shakes." And of course, this pissed her off, leading to a bunch of text messages about how awful men are, how bad dating is, yadda yadda.

That's so weird because sex is the last place height matters.

Don't be too aloof, though. This is a case where a little aggressiveness could bring the lay.

"Let's wait to hang out until you're ready to finish what we started. Sounds like height is new to you and you're not used to trying new things, but I'm sure you'll get past it soon."

I've just stopped responding to her text messages and requests to hang out.

Too much drama.

I'm not going to chase her around. She had her chance and blew it.

Post: #156

(04-08-2018 12:32 AM)Catch 22 Wrote:  Don't be too aloof, though. This is a case where a little aggressiveness could bring the lay.

"Let's wait to hang out until you're ready to finish what we started. Sounds like height is new to you and you're not used to trying new things, but I'm sure you'll get past it soon."

NO.
No offense, but THAT would be a fucking terrible and weak answer.

You might as well just write her "Yeah, you know I'm butthurt because you choose to diss me because of my height... but I will hope and pray to God that you will get over my height issue someday and when you do, you should be aware that I don't have many options and I will always be here waiting for you while you go fuck some other dudes now".

No, being aggressive would have been to attack her back and mention something along the lines of how you're unsure about her small tits as well. But I think, as a man, you want to be better than that.

What you should do in a case like this is just to move on. Because it was her loss at the end of the day. If you believe in abundance and that you're the prize (and why shouldn't you?), you realize that she had the chance with you and a once in a lifetime opportunity, but she didn't take it.

Let's say you had offered a woman $ 500 billion in cash one night.
But after a few days, she texts you and explains that she will refuse to take your money. This is because she thought that some of the paper money of yours were a bit wrinkly and then she went on telling you this story about how she used to receive a $ 10 bill from some other guys in her past and that those bills weren't wrinkly at all compared to yours. Then she told you how she just couldn't get over this - would you write her a text afterwards leaving the door open for her to come over and collect it in the future? No, bitch can go and fuck off because there are plenty of other women that are gonna show more appreciation for this $ 500 billion dollar prize.

That's the mentality you need in life and when you adopt more of that you'll see that people will treat you differently and you'll be able to attract better women.

Post: #157

(04-07-2018 08:38 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  Candidly, I got blown out this week for the "short" reason. I get the girl back to my house, get her naked, but she's putting up some LMR. I'm a bit surprised, but I'm cool about it, whatever. Usually once they're back at my house and naked it's game on. During the night we'd had tons of kino, kissing, etc. I thought I'd set it up pretty well.

Next day she sends me a text along these lines: "Hank, you're such a great guy, I had so much fun, and I so want to like you. But I can't get over the physical attraction thing. I just usually date guys who are 6 foot tall and over. I came back to your house for sex, but I just couldn't get over the height thing. I'm so sorry, because I love spending time with you. I really hope we can still hang out. I had so much fun with you."

It is what it is (and of course, she is still trying to hang out, and now getting pissed about my complete lack of interest). My response was along the line of "cool, no worries." Then she sent me a few texts along the lines of "I'd like to hang out. What are you up to?" I responded two days later very benignly, with basically "work stuff, kind of jammed up this week. love to hang but gotta make moves and shakes." And of course, this pissed her off, leading to a bunch of text messages about how awful men are, how bad dating is, yadda yadda.

Similar to Hank's story I went on a date with a girl once, had a good time, took her home, banged her and expected to add her to the rotation.
However instead, the next day I got a text similar to Hanks, "Roardog, I had a great time last night, it was fun hanging out with you but you're just too short for me. I usually date tall guys but I'm taller than you in heels and I love wearing heels! I'm sorry, you're a great guy."

At the time it was the first time a girl had explicitly rejected me due to the height thing. However I see it as a positive, she saved us both the time of going on more dates and trying to force an attraction that she didn't really feel.

On the flip side, this year I have already slept with 3 girls who are 3"-5" taller than me, two of which are in my rotation now, and not one of them ever mentioned the height thing.

Some girls are more hung up on it than others and some situations exacerbate it more than others.
As is always said on this forum, don't worry about the no girls, go after the yes and maybe girls.

Post: #158

Anyone who thinks height literally doesn't matter is crazy. If you want to experiment approach 50 chicks then wear 3 inch lifts and do the same. Inb4 it's confidence. It's a red pill swallow it, own it.

Now with that said lack of height isn't a death sentence and you can still slay. Just know your 6'2" friend gets more strikes than you, oh well

Post: #159

I'm 5'7 and was always lacking confidence, height being a major constituent.

OP get some height increasing insoles or tall-man shoes. It will take a lot of faffing about and returning to ensure you get a comfortable fit cuz trust me you don't want to be walking regularly with uncomfortable shoes, it will fuck thee up.

I barely even notice now, it has become so ingrained in my lifestyle. A fair few of the girls I've banged have been taller than me. Being jacked probably helps a lot and being bald and muscular probably helps set against the lack of height. The girl I am seeing now is a couple of inches taller when measured flat-feet but when we walk outside we are about equal so its fine.

You will still get rejected a lot and your approach/success ratio will probably be a lot worse due to lack of height just because girls have so many goddam options these days and suffer from Christian Grey syndrome. Consider traveling or living in other countries if you are really getting no ROI, I have a feeling western countries are particularly bad for this.

Post: #160

Take this from a guy who is over 6 foot - girls don't just offer their pussy to you just because you are taller than them. This particularly applies if you are not traditionally good looking.

You still have to put in all the ground work and do all the same bullshit that every other guy has to do, and even then sex is not guaranteed.

If short guys could be tall guys for a few weeks, you'd see what I mean.

It helps a little bit, but it's no cheat code.

Onto your problem though...

Listen to the guys commenting above - sound like you might want to invest in some height boosting shoes or insoles to give you an extra inch or two for some short term confidence.

To be completely honest though - 5"6 while short for a guy, is not that short.

Like Hank said above, some women are going to flat out just not want to get with you for your height. The sooner you come to accept that, the better off you will be.

One of the best guys I've ever seen with girls was 5"4 - 5"5. He didn't boost his height.

He dressed well without being over the top, but he had confidence, respected himself, and assumed people's attention with the way he carried himself.

He wasn't scared of girls, didn't lean in - when they talked to him, they could see he was comfortable with himself and were intrigued by him.

He was a business owner, and told me he got to that point by developing his internal confidence.

That's what I suggest you work on over the long term if you're concerned about your height. Build lasting internal confidence by doing shit that scares you in life, or shit you can be proud of. You'll become more than your height in your own mind.

Of all the girls that you have a chance of having sex with or getting in an LTR with - confidence and the way you carry yourself is what will get you noticed most by girls. Don't second guess things.

This stuff plays a way bigger role than what you think. Girls can often be a mirror of how you feel - if you feel calm and confident, they see you have nothing to hide and they can relax themselves

If you want to get an idea of what a confident, comfortable in his own skin shorter guy looks like - check out this video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvB75u1Adwc

Post: #161

height doesnt matter at all imo

Post: #162

From what I've witnessed, more so than facial structure or sense of style- the biggest physical advantage for men is height (if you're significantly above average, 6'2"+).

Post: #163

If you are short (or any height) lowering your bodyfat % to make your facial structure more prominent should help a wee bit