Post: #1

I think Canada as a country overall is not quite as bad as the scandinavian countries but Toronto has got to be up there as far as cities go, right?

Post: #2

(09-18-2013 12:56 PM)Andy_B Wrote:  I think Canada as a country overall is not quite as bad as the scandinavian countries but Toronto has got to be up there as far as cities go, right?

I wouldn't say it's blue pill. There's a lot of PUAs in Toronto. I just think it's a shitty place to be a player.

Post: #3

You guys think Scandis are terrible in that aspect. The ratio of hot girls to feminists is still 100x better in Stockholm, Malmö or Helsinki than in Toronto. It's just their culture is a bit different, girls are still quite traditional though.

Post: #4

I was just in Toronto a couple of weeks ago. Did not get that impression.

Post: #5

Blue pill western countries? Because India has then all beat.

Post: #6

India.

Post: #7

I can't understand why guys aren't convinced about Toronto, comparing it to Scandinavian cities is a joke.

For me those cities are heaven and Toronto is hell, shit I even know dudes with all the tools (perfect located apartment etc) and they still complain.

Post: #8

it's probably up there, but #1? nah.

imo the pc/blue pill analysis can only go so far. men aren't the problem in toronto. it's more the women. toronto is the way it is because of the cultural orientation of its women plus very bad demographics. roosh's post on why toronto sucks reflects this.

Post: #9

i've been there once (4 days) and thought it was terrible

way worse than NY or London, let alone anywhere else in the west

they're quite attractive but have an attitude from here to kingdom comes

Post: #10

I live in Toronto and aside from some FOB girls I don't even bother here.

Post: #11

Yes!!!

Post: #12

Just a quick update on Toronto since I don't go out much here in terms of clubs. After the great UFC fight 165 finishes we get to the old stand by if I'm staying in the city on a Saturday night - Brant House.

I think it had almost a year since I had been there. I get there at 1am and we meet another buddy and although the place is busy the venue is showing it's age with less restrictive door policy from the crowd. Anyway they still had 1 prime table open for $300 all in. or $100 each since there were 3 of us. 1 bottle was all we needed so late at night.

Back to the crowd - there must have at least 60% guys which can be typical of Toronto. Anyways I was able to get 2 numbers. 1 was a Afghani girl with a nice body but I doubt she will remember me as she was so drunk and her friends were trying to her away from me. The next blonde I bring over to table and get her number seem like a interesting situation. The girl has huge stripper fakes tits and I'm touching her and getting close with in minutes of giving her a drink. She had to leave and saw her later with friend. She is appears to a stripper or someone working in the adult industry in some manner judging from her rack. She is a working girl ? This common I have seen this n Vegas at the clubs but never experienced it here.

Let's see what happens with her but definitely a more interesting night for me in TO.

Post: #13

(09-19-2013 09:45 AM)bodmon Wrote:  roosh's post on why toronto sucks reflects this.

Wow, people are still posting 6 months after the fact...has to be a hall of fame post and should hint at the severity of the problem in Toronto.

First-hand experience here being in a prime location, but the reality vs the fun I envisioned moving from the immediate suburbs to the city core was a cruel joke (though disclaimer, was a workaholic and litte/no game). I had already been working in the core for a little over half a decade so it's not like it was something new to me.

Passed by a pub type of place on the immediate outskirts of the entertainment/financial district that I believe is it's umpteenth incarnation and seemed to be a new opening, complete with the poser and posing Euro crowd that I know will disappear completely in a few weeks. Outside the place must've been 30 guys and 1 girl (granted probably not as bad a ratio inside.)

Post: #14

(09-22-2013 02:01 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  Just a quick update on Toronto since I don't go out much here in terms of clubs. After the great UFC fight 165 finishes we get to the old stand by if I'm staying in the city on a Saturday night - Brant House.

I think it had almost a year since I had been there. I get there at 1am and we meet another buddy and although the place is busy the venue is showing it's age with less restrictive door policy from the crowd. Anyway they still had 1 prime table open for $300 all in. or $100 each since there were 3 of us. 1 bottle was all we needed so late at night.

Back to the crowd - there must have at least 60% guys which can be typical of Toronto. Anyways I was able to get 2 numbers. 1 was a Afghani girl with a nice body but I doubt she will remember me as she was so drunk and her friends were trying to her away from me. The next blonde I bring over to table and get her number seem like a interesting situation. The girl has huge stripper fakes tits and I'm touching her and getting close with in minutes of giving her a drink. She had to leave and saw her later with friend. She is appears to a stripper or someone working in the adult industry in some manner judging from her rack. She is a working girl ? This common I have seen this n Vegas at the clubs but never experienced it here.

Let's see what happens with her but definitely a more interesting night for me in TO.

Something is not working. I'm trying to upload a picture of the blonde.

Post: #15

Rishboy - why are you getting bottle service and why on earth are you going to Brant house?

Post: #16

(09-23-2013 04:05 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Rishboy - why are you getting bottle service and why on earth are you going to Brant house?

Brant House up to now serves my needs and up to now I have success down there.
Remember me and my buddies are all in our early 40's, we don't have dreams of grandeur thinking we are going to score with smoking hot 21 year old... unless she is drunk enough and high enough.

One of my buddies still works in a night club related industry and although he is almost my age but better looking and in good shape and he still likes going there to score with a 24-29 typical age bracket down there. There are a few cougar's mixed in too.

About the only other place I like on a Saturday night is Muzic.

Although I would think about other places now when saw the worst crowd ever down there on.

PS - on a related note. I have texted back and forth with stripper wannabe in my report, apparently she was on the website the dirty.com - where always the best trash goes

Post: #17

There's plenty of pump and dump worthy girls in TO.

Post: #18

(09-23-2013 07:33 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 04:05 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Rishboy - why are you getting bottle service and why on earth are you going to Brant house?

Brant House up to now serves my needs and up to now I have success down there.
Remember me and my buddies are all in our early 40's, we don't have dreams of grandeur thinking we are going to score with smoking hot 21 year old... unless she is drunk enough and high enough.

One of my buddies still works in a night club related industry and although he is almost my age but better looking and in good shape and he still likes going there to score with a 24-29 typical age bracket down there. There are a few cougar's mixed in too.

About the only other place I like on a Saturday night is Muzic.

Although I would think about other places now when saw the worst crowd ever down there on.

PS - on a related note. I have texted back and forth with stripper wannabe in my report, apparently she was on the website the dirty.com - where always the best trash goes

Muzik is the only club I go to in Toronto, it simply has the best talent and has been good to me this summer.

Post: #19

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Muzik is the only club I go to in Toronto, it simply has the best talent and has been good to me this summer.
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Since they only open on Saturday's, awesome crowd but they are known to pay to get girls in the club either with free drinks, cash or both. I know a few girls who have confirmed this.
On a side note my buddy who I went to Brant House with picked up a hot young Russian girl there back in the Summer, she was 8 in terms of looks.

My first instinct was that she did not have permanent immigration here and I was right !

Post: #20

Quote:Men in Toronto will be strutting their stuff to raise awareness to help end violence against women in the White Ribbon Campaign to Walk A Mile in Her Shoes.
Environics Communications vice president Andrew Kinnear says he's got his "practical brown heels" ready for his fourth Walk A Mile in Her Shoes. Kinnear says he takes part because he can't imagine the women in his life experiencing any emotion or physical abuse, and to be a positive influence on his son.
Walk A Mile in Her Shoes Toronto -- which has men and boys march in women's shoes such as high heels -- has raised around $400,000 since 2009.
White Ribbon executive director Todd Minerson says there were almost 1,000 walkers from as young as 11 to as old as 70 in last year's walk. The goal is to raise $125,000 to fund programs that help men and boys understand the issue of violence against women in Canada.

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-men-wa...z2gIVyPoVu

Post: #21

They should say soory for being so beta

Post: #22

Toronto is a pit. You go out and you'll find hookers or girls with BFs in masse. Yes working girls are common in clubs because desperate dudes whom are frustrated at the end of the night will take her on that offer... the men deserve as much blame as the women, being red-pill in Toronto means your in a very small minority.

Right now I work a shitty restaurant job. There is a few cute girls I could work on. I get a lot of attention at work because I'm one of the few legit guys there and I peacock a lot like wearing muscle shirts to work from the gym. Girls eye fuck me at work constantly so it's just a matter of lining things up.

The next saga is my Toronto story is that I've finally moved to a place that will be (hopefully) logistics friendly. I'm right near Little Italy and 5min cab ride from Ossington and places like The Drake. This will be my testing ground as I will be going out less, but being more strategic and surgical with my game when I do go out. I've only been here a few days so in trying to figure out how to set my place up on a modest budget to be good for purely game/lifestyle.

Gonna invite a bunch of ppl over from work to drink soon. Gonna try this bullshit circle game stuff but by my own rules - meaning I'll be controlling the interactions and flow. I should be able to pick out who's chill quickly. I've been having luck not hanging out with ppl "from" here. Locals are jaded and ruined, keep things fresh with folks whom just moved here I say.

Overall this City is hell and the future for all western citites. Women here are in wonderland as the whole systematics of the city protects them and they have the space to use men for relationships while still fucking randoms on the side. This City is the most beta Western City on earth. The people here are cringe worthy and the women give you headaches.

Post: #23

I first heard the term `Metro-sexual`in Toronto and agree with Roosh`s post about Toronto.

Post: #24

Kosko - am I noticing a change in your attitude? You always seemed to be upbeat about Tdot!

Went out last night, the City seemed quite. Saw that idiot Jenner kid at Muzik, I guess that was a big deal.

Lately I have only been meeting girls at the end of the night, had a semi-drunken girl jump in our car while leaving her male friend.

All in all, Toronto is a soul destroying pit.

Post: #25

I will try and extend my place to all my Toronto bredrins cos I truly feel your pain..I don't like to feel comrades suffer..bless