Post: #1

I'm going to suggest that best quality in the US come out of small towns.

Looking back at my past LTR's, the girls having the best traits for wife/mother were born & raised at least an hour outside the city center.

Suburban girls located 30-60 minutes outside city center can be hit or miss. It's the ones who were raised with small town community values I felt had better models for loyalty, motherhood, and could be better trusted.

Are there drawbacks? Sure. They tend to not be as educated or interesting as city girls. You won't have as much in common with them as a man of the world. They might be ignorant. Finding hot ones is a challenge. They are damn hard to find. They won't have much in the way of fashion sense. But I'm not sure these things are so important when looking to take a wife.

The ones who make the voyage out of their small town and into the big city were either too pretty, or too smart to stay put. I have met a few LTR's of this type early in their transition, and was able to shield them from corruption while under my care. To this day, they've been my best candidates for taking a wife in the US.

I've gone nomad this month, and as such will be giving EE a go first. But should things not work there, I would still consider a small town USA girl for the job.

Post: #2

This isn't about chicks only--The ONLY friends I've made in California in about 15 years of living here are guys originally from the Midwest-- Wisconsin and Missouri, which technically might be West or Southern Midwest.

I've met Californians with whom I could have cultivated a friendship with, but they were either too busy and important ( not saying it sarcastically) or weren't hard working enough to hang with me as I pursue my artistic ventures.

I met one guy who was a top professor in genetics. Made contact with him but he non-responded. Actors and other movie people are completely in a whirl and if you aren't paying them or shooting them, they're gone.

Post: #3

I can't say I've had enough experience with small town girls per se. But girls from distant city suburbs or smaller cities (under 100,000, say) tend to be better, the younger you get them. Their advantage peters out as they move to and live in big cities.

(08-25-2013 10:02 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I've met Californians with whom I could have cultivated a friendship with, but they were either too busy and important ( not saying it sarcastically) or weren't hard working enough to hang with me as I pursue my artistic ventures.

I met one guy who was a top professor in genetics. Made contact with him but he non-responded. Actors and other movie people are completely in a whirl and if you aren't paying them or shooting them, they're gone.

What does that even mean?

Post: #4

(08-25-2013 08:51 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  I'm going to suggest that best quality in the US come out of small towns.

Looking back at my past LTR's, the girls having the best traits for wife/mother were born & raised at least an hour outside the city center.

Suburban girls located 30-60 minutes outside city center can be hit or miss. It's the ones who were raised with small town community values I felt had better models for loyalty, motherhood, and could be better trusted.

Are there drawbacks? Sure. They tend to not be as educated or interesting as city girls. You won't have as much in common with them as a man of the world. They might be ignorant. Finding hot ones is a challenge. They are damn hard to find. They won't have much in the way of fashion sense. But I'm not sure these things are so important when looking to take a wife.

The ones who make the voyage out of their small town and into the big city were either too pretty, or too smart to stay put. I have met a few LTR's of this type early in their transition, and was able to shield them from corruption while under my care. To this day, they've been my best candidates for taking a wife in the US.

I've gone nomad this month, and as such will be giving EE a go first. But should things not work there, I would still consider a small town USA girl for the job.

CR I wish you luck in EE. I saw your other post and really hope you find what you are looking for. Hopefully, you'll drop some breadcrumbs for some of us on the board who want the same. Enjoy the adventure!

Post: #5

(08-25-2013 10:46 PM)basilransom Wrote:  I can't say I've had enough experience with small town girls per se. But girls from distant city suburbs or smaller cities (under 100,000, say) tend to be better, the younger you get them. Their advantage peters out as they move to and live in big cities.

(08-25-2013 10:02 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I've met Californians with whom I could have cultivated a friendship with, but they were either too busy and important ( not saying it sarcastically) or weren't hard working enough to hang with me as I pursue my artistic ventures.

I met one guy who was a top professor in genetics. Made contact with him but he non-responded. Actors and other movie people are completely in a whirl and if you aren't paying them or shooting them, they're gone.

What does that even mean?

You mean by "Couldn't hang"? Sorry for unclear slang, they did not want to or did not have the stamina do five or six hour stints obsessively rehearsing music with no immediate reward like the Midwesterners would do. Californians I've known were either too high status to begin with to work like that, or wanted too immediate rewards, short planning horizon.

I still like California, it attracts the brightest people. Actors and crew I worked with from LA actually did put in a huge amount of talent, brainpower and effort and if I was living in LA I'd probably have some friends there.

I don't want to hijack the thread too much, but as far as reliable friends I think the OP is right, people from small towns just find that being and having long-term friends more valuable than those from socially mobile cities.

Post: #6

I think you can translate this into a Russian perspective. Pretty much all the best girls I have dated here in Moscow have been transplants from much smaller towns. Sure sometimes they are a bit simple and not very cosmopolitan, but whatever. Nothing wrong with the village girls here - they are generally very nice, sweet, feminine and willing to please their men and ideally have kids and take care of the homefront.

Contrast them with the more local types who always seem to be more demanding and aware of all the rich guys throwing money around. So they are much likely to be higher-maintenance, attention-seeking iPhone loving types. It's not always the case but there's def a stereotype & pattern here.

Post: #7

Anyone seen Easy Rider? I can imagine going into an American small town and start swinging your dick around and the local males would react in pretty much the same fashion. Heck, Nicholson pretty much defined the hamster in his speech in that movie.

Post: #8

(08-26-2013 06:26 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Anyone seen Easy Rider? I can imagine going into an American small town and start swinging your dick around and the local males would react in pretty much the same fashion. Heck, Nicholson pretty much defined the hamster in his speech in that movie.

Not really in my experience.

Of course if you start hitting on every bird in the bar you may have some problems.

Select your targets versus spray and pray and you shouldn't have any issues.

*When talking small towns I'm generally thinking 10K and less. Some real gems in the small towns but the hotter ones generally do not stay single long.

Post: #9

The problem with small towns is the logisitics involved in finding and banging them.

If they're not on a dating site you have got to put in serious ground time in this towns to find those girls.

And you gotta think about how many towns are in a good logistical distance from you. Like a 30-40 mile circle. It may be a lot for some and few for others.

If its a lot you are gonna be putting in a lot of ground time. If its few you gonna have fewer opportunities. And the competition for the top local birds is usually pretty intense. But on a positive note a cool new dude in the area is a like cat nip to the chicks.

I did a good amount of small town game a few years back. I would pick a place on a map and ride my motorcycle there. Then I would spend the day exploring the shops, stores, and restaurants. Some I went to and decided they weren't worth a return visit and some became regular spots (with some rotation regulars of course) to visit whenever the weather was good.

Post: #10

(08-27-2013 08:29 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  But on a positive note a cool new dude in the area is a like cat nip to the chicks.

For the most part, everyone knows everyone else, so when you roll into the bar heads will turn and curiosity will spike. At times I've expected the jukebox to stop playing it was so noticeable.

The smaller the town, the more pronounced this is. Something you will never see in the city or even bigger towns as strangers are always rolling through.

Don't worry about the distance. Just rent a hotel room some night in some small town and go try and pull.

That'll put some pressure on to perform and get you off your barstool.

Post: #11

(08-27-2013 08:29 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  I did a good amount of small town game a few years back. I would pick a place on a map and ride my motorcycle there. Then I would spend the day exploring the shops, stores, and restaurants. Some I went to and decided they weren't worth a return visit and some became regular spots (with some rotation regulars of course) to visit whenever the weather was good.

That's exactly what I'm interested in doing, getting a motorbike with good mileage and start hunting for goldmines in rural California.

How did your journeys turn out? I would love to hear any details of your motorcycle escapades and data sheets/reports on the matter. Can't wait to get my license.

Post: #12

^ Stupidest thing I've ever heard...I'll come with you.

Post: #13

Still on page one in a thread devoted to small town American girls? Well deserved bump. I fell in love in the hardware store of all places just the other day - low income, rural town of a few thousand, hours from my home. Late teens/early 20's in there with her father, approached as she was waiting by the register. Brief chat, sweetest no-attitude girl imaginable and then dad walked up. I let it die so as not to be all "Easy Rider" as they say, and watched them drive away in a beater mini-box truck. Small town USA is absolutely where it's at. The problem is urban culture worldwide, not just the USA in general, in my opinion. When I'm approaching 40 I hope to be hitting them hard with an eye out for "the one".

Post: #14

Small town Australia has the ugliest and manliest girls of any place I have ever seen. All the smart/pretty ones move to the big cities at 18. The ones left behind are usually ugly, fat or on meth. I've also noticed the ones who move to my big city tend to be very hipster and often live in the hipster areas, although this could be self-selection because my city has that reputation. Pretty much every non-Arab person I've met whose self-described as a Socialist has been a rural transplant as well.

Post: #15

Growing up in a liberal area of the rural north l knew/know way too many socialists but imagine that if I grew up in the rural American south that would be reversed. Probably still wouldn't know any Arabs though. City girls are hotter for sure on the whole. How to put into words the allure of a country girl... I very much appreciate a woman who knows how to dress up and appreciates a good glass of wine and exotic cuisine but also a girl who can carry in the groceries by herself without bitching and doesn't require constant stimulation. I think that it's easier to teach a country girl to like Eritrean curry than it is to teach a city girl how to change a tire or butcher a chicken, and if she has butchered chickens what are a few groceries after all? Once they taste privilege these things are "beneath them" regardless of the actual skill involved in shoe shopping vs butchery.

I think back to an ex who grew up in the city and how I'd have to hunt down friends when I needed to move even midsize furniture, and how she was a crying bitchy mess if a hike took half an hour longer than I told her it might, or I asked for her help in something she didn't like to do. A life of instant gratification made her quick to crack when the going got at all difficult. I mean, how many seasoned NYC girls would want to drive to the hardware store with their dad, wait for him by the register, and still have a smile on their face (without even busting out an iPhone!) like the one I met the other day? Not that small towns don't have their share of Honey Boo Boos as well. I grew up in the sticks so am probably biased.

Post: #16

Those mid-sized mid-west cities (St Louis, KC, Indianapolis) are gold. Not really small towns but not towns you first think about when you think of the USA. There are a lot of good looking girls. They are usually friendly, especially to outsiders.

Post: #17

I'm English and ready for a great American adventure. Any places you guys would recommend for a prince charming?

Post: #18

(06-23-2015 08:31 PM)Gorgiass Wrote:  Growing up in a liberal area of the rural north l knew/know way too many socialists but imagine that if I grew up in the rural American south that would be reversed. Probably still wouldn't know any Arabs though.

Rural Australians are supposed to be conservative (by Australian standards), hence my surprise. They're conservative in a protectionist way though being dependent on farming. So the young people who move to the cities for university can be quite far to the left if they are on the left. Versus their counterparts from the suburbs who probably came from a private school and have some money.

Post: #19

(08-27-2013 08:43 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(08-27-2013 08:29 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  But on a positive note a cool new dude in the area is a like cat nip to the chicks.

For the most part, everyone knows everyone else, so when you roll into the bar heads will turn and curiosity will spike. At times I've expected the jukebox to stop playing it was so noticeable.

The smaller the town, the more pronounced this is. Something you will never see in the city or even bigger towns as strangers are always rolling through.

Don't worry about the distance. Just rent a hotel room some night in some small town and go try and pull.

That'll put some pressure on to perform and get you off your barstool.

Especially in Wisconsin. I used to get sent to all sorts of Wisconsin small towns for work and I loved it. There's always a small local bar and 99% of the people are friendly and talkative.

Post: #20

(06-24-2015 05:20 PM)The_Wonder Wrote:  I'm English and ready for a great American adventure. Any places you guys would recommend for a prince charming?

Madison WI, Duluth MN, Dubuque IA, St. Louis, Lexington KY, Savannah GA

Post: #21

(06-25-2015 01:57 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 05:20 PM)The_Wonder Wrote:  I'm English and ready for a great American adventure. Any places you guys would recommend for a prince charming?

Madison WI, Duluth MN, Dubuque IA, St. Louis, Lexington KY, Savannah GA

Have banged in the first three. Not listed but Knoxville as well.

However, those are much bigger towns than I am talking about. If you hit the right spots, small bars, in those towns it works about the same way though. I avoid clubs or the hot bars for the most part.

If you want to see some real attraction, roll into a place like Spring Green or Sauk City. Both in Wisconsin. Look them up on google. Hint-Couple thousand pop.

The only downside is the hotboxes are not as common. Weekends work best.

Note-It's funny but I just had a similar convo with a off duty 22 y/o bar tender tonight. She was kinda bombed and I don't care to pick her up so when the discussion rolled the right way I said to her "You'll never agree, but when I roll into a town where no one knows me all the chicks are checking me out like they want something new."

"Yeah, we do that."

/chuckle

Post: #22

I'm not so sure about small town girls. I grew up in a small town and thinking back to my high school days, most girls lost their virginity in 9th or 10th grade and then began partying and fucking around pretty frequently. In small towns, there is less to do so I think more idle time increases the chance of sex and partying among young people. There were definitely some good girls but they were still a minority. Most small town girls never leave upon high school graduation. Most go to local community college. They get impregnated at an early age, settle down earlier than city folk, and then go through a few dramatic marriages. Whenever I need a pick me up, I can just look at my Facebook feed and see how most of my graduating class has assumed this fate.

In my experience, a solid metric for finding good girls is finding out if she was involved in any sports/athletics or extra curricular activities in school. These girls had much less time for partying and are more focused and driven on physical fitness than their idle counterparts. Now there are still plenty of cheerleaders that got banged out by half the football team but I'm just saying more often than not, the girls into sports were less slutty.

This is just one man's experience of one small town so take it for what it's worth. But if I'm trying to find a wife, they'd get more points for being involved in athletics rather than being from a small town, suburb, or city.

Post: #23

I’ve spent some of my life in small town USA. I still have good friends in these places and have dated women from town sizes as small as 200 people. I venture back to these roots occasionally, so I’ve kept up on the happenings in the small town America for the most part. Not all of small town America is created equal and the same can be said for the women as well.

(08-25-2013 08:51 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  I'm going to suggest that best quality in the US come out of small towns.

Looking back at my past LTR's, the girls having the best traits for wife/mother were born & raised at least an hour outside the city center.

Suburban girls located 30-60 minutes outside city center can be hit or miss. It's the ones who were raised with small town community values I felt had better models for loyalty, motherhood, and could be better trusted.

Are there drawbacks? Sure. They tend to not be as educated or interesting as city girls. You won't have as much in common with them as a man of the world. They might be ignorant. Finding hot ones is a challenge. They are damn hard to find. They won't have much in the way of fashion sense. But I'm not sure these things are so important when looking to take a wife.

The ones who make the voyage out of their small town and into the big city were either too pretty, or too smart to stay put. I have met a few LTR's of this type early in their transition, and was able to shield them from corruption while under my care. To this day, they've been my best candidates for taking a wife in the US.

Having experienced both small town and urban USA, I will agree that the greater portion of the remaining quality American women comes from small towns. Having said that there are some clear exceptions to the rule.

Yes, a lot of small town America still produces a community-centric culture of traditional and conservative values and with that some of the most nice and feminine chicks in the USA, but these places are still in the USA and are not at all immune to the toxic traits of western culture as a whole. The goods are guaranteed to be spoiled at some point in their life, no questions about it. If these chicks have not dabbled too much in high school party life or are not already wifed-up by a local dude by age 20, they will eventually become another basic university bitch, a beluga whale from too much country fixins' or a dried-up sack of skin from subscribing to some form of eat-pray-cock carousal lifestyle. Simply put, these bitches are bound to hit the wall hard and fast.

If your goal is to wife a small town chick, your ability to do so will have a lot to do with timing and social circle. Social circles in small town USA are largely formed earlier on in life compared to urban areas and these girls are still brought up in a (dying) culture that still promotes early marriage with your “high school sweetheart” or local boy that has gone to the same church or school their whole life. Thus giving an edge to the local dudes, but naturally chicks buck this trend as they grow up and experience life off the reservation, so the edge isn’t that great. This dynamic applies more to the decreasing number of small town chicks who are looking local, to stay local their whole lives, which is probably not something the wife hunters of this forum are looking for anyways.

As you addressed, depending on your standards, finding “hot” chicks will be a challenge in some small towns. Problems are typically one of the following:
-Lack of fashion sense or fitness culture (social media is rapidly changing this)
-Hearty meat, potatoes and corn-fed diet since birth
-Depending on how rural you go you’ll run into girls with a bit of a genetic predisposition stemming from a history family inbreeding.
-Limited access to social circles or solid venue options

(06-26-2015 07:56 AM)brob Wrote:  I'm not so sure about small town girls. I grew up in a small town and thinking back to my high school days, most girls lost their virginity in 9th or 10th grade and then began partying and fucking around pretty frequently. In small towns, there is less to do so I think more idle time increases the chance of sex and partying among young people. There were definitely some good girls but they were still a minority. Most small town girls never leave upon high school graduation. Most go to local community college. They get impregnated at an early age, settle down earlier than city folk, and then go through a few dramatic marriages. Whenever I need a pick me up, I can just look at my Facebook feed and see how most of my graduating class has assumed this fate.

Very true post, but the cycle is present in every town in America, big or small. Small town American girls are most certainly susceptible to the idle time, readily accessible booze/drugs with places to party and a drawn-out sexual angst fueled by a religiously sheltered upbringing. From my experience it is probably more 50%-50% on what small town girls fuck around with sex/booze/drugs in early high school, leaving you with a mostly undamaged, fuckable 15-20% of that 50% at age 18. Past the age of 20 that percentage is solidly below 10%.

(08-27-2013 08:29 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  The problem with small towns is the logisitics involved in finding and banging them.

If they're not on a dating site you have got to put in serious ground time in this towns to find those girls.

And you gotta think about how many towns are in a good logistical distance from you. Like a 30-40 mile circle. It may be a lot for some and few for others.

If its a lot you are gonna be putting in a lot of ground time. If its few you gonna have fewer opportunities. And the competition for the top local birds is usually pretty intense. But on a positive note a cool new dude in the area is a like cat nip to the chicks.

I did a good amount of small town game a few years back. I would pick a place on a map and ride my motorcycle there. Then I would spend the day exploring the shops, stores, and restaurants. Some I went to and decided they weren't worth a return visit and some became regular spots (with some rotation regulars of course) to visit whenever the weather was good.

Like anything in life, your logistics will be key to the success of your mission. This is a serious drawback to small town America game, especially if you are venturing into the unknown without local connects. Pre-trip research will be a necessity toward your success on the ground. Riding around the countryside on your bike and showing up in small town bars, stores and restaurants will for the most part give you great street cred with the locals, but you will eventually run into dry spells of viable women. Those who choose this path with swagger and confidence will do well.

For those looking to take a more planned approached, map any country/tri-county area that perks your interest and then search the summer/autumn festivals of every small town within your targeted area. 95% of American small towns have summer/autumn festivals. These bring everyone in the area out of the woodwork and it will give you the best opportunity to game, both day and night.

In addition to these small festivals, there are other events that should not be overlooked. There are numerous small country music festivals across America every summer. The equivalent of Ultra, Bonnaroo, or Cochella for small town America. Massive partying, tons of drunk women, daisy dukes and tits everywhere. Easy social circle access. So much to like about these festivals. Examples:
-Rock the South in Alabama
-Country Concert in Ohio
-CountryFest in Wisconsin
-Country USA in Wisconsin

(06-24-2015 11:28 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  Those mid-sized mid-west cities (St Louis, KC, Indianapolis) are gold. Not really small towns but not towns you first think about when you think of the USA. There are a lot of good looking girls. They are usually friendly, especially to outsiders.

These are sizable metropolitan areas over 1 million people with completely different dynamics to those of true "small towns". It is true that these cities will attract thousands of small town Midwestern American women, but they will be diluted and will not truly be “small town” anymore. The game is different in these cities.

(06-24-2015 05:20 PM)The_Wonder Wrote:  I'm English and ready for a great American adventure. Any places you guys would recommend for a prince charming?

Your accent and nationality will be mostly well received by small town chicks in the USA, you will slay if you have an ounce of game and basic knowledge of American country culture. I would recommend focusing where your accent clashes most and where people have likely had no previous contact with a Brit. Look into the upper Midwest (Dakotas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa) or the Deep South (Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama or even Texas).

Post: #24

(08-27-2013 08:29 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  The problem with small towns is the logisitics involved in finding and banging them.

If they're not on a dating site you have got to put in serious ground time in this towns to find those girls.

Good thing then that a lot of them ARE on dating sites.


In small towns like that, there's usually a dearth of articulate, educated, reasonably attractive, morally upright guys within their age range. They've figured that out a long time ago and decided to use the web to search for guys outside their town.

Post: #25

Small towns in Minnesota and Wisconsin, lots of good looking ladies. Especially the college towns. Its the area in the US with the highest Scandinavian and German ancestry.

You don't want too small though, as most girls leave to bigger towns/cities for college or better opportunities, and there won't be really any venues that you'll meet the ladies in real small towns that do live there. And if you do its likely to be wives, high school girls, or meth heads.

Places in MN and WI with around 50k population are great.

Saint Cloud MN is a good one, has a large university but its not a big city (about 60k), I remember I talked to a guy from London that was there on business and he was just blown away by the numbers and how easy they were to talk to (for me it was just normal at the time, but now I appreciate it looking back). Bars get absolutely packed Thurs & Fri, especially Thurs., mostly 21-23 y/o (and probably plenty 18-20 with fake ID). Anyone need recommendations just hit me up. Duluth MN would probably be a good choice as well, though I don't have much experience there.

Eau Claire WI is very similar to St. Cloud, also has a large university , 60k population, similar girls.

There are other options as well, but I feel like these places have just the right size to have enough quantity of quality, and they have high density of ladies due to universities. You may find something by chance in the actual small towns but it will be difficult and few and far between.