Post: #1

I guess now it's cool to be a "former pick-up artist".

Post: #2

This is nothing but marketing.

But teaching women how to pick up men - jeez, there can't be an easier gig out there, especially if your clients are girls who look like this one.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #3

I think there's money to be made in teaching women how to pickup men. I know a lot of attractive girls that suffer from approach anxiety. It's a new concept for them, as the traditional roles have changed. Men aren't doing it anymore.

With that being said, the mainstream PUA's are a bunch of washouts from Comicon. Why would girls want to take advice from some guy that pee-pee's himself at a horror movie? Chicks would gravitate to and take advice from an actual player with the looks and confidence.

This is a serious matter and as such, I've formed an emergency RVF exploratory committee to address this issue tonight. Minutes of the meeting will be posted later.

Post: #4

Im going to become a dog whisperer....but not a traditional one, im going to teach small dogs to bark at everything that walks by.

yeah...thats what im going to do....cuz there are enough small dogs in the world that effectively knows how to bark at any and everything that moves.

Post: #5

(08-24-2013 07:08 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I think there's money to be made in teaching women how to pickup men. I know a lot of attractive girls that suffer from approach anxiety. It's a new concept for them, as the traditional roles have changed. Men aren't doing it anymore.

I don't know if it's exactly a good thing for women to overcome approach anxiety. One of the reasons it's possible to pull hot women for guys with average looks and a dose of game is because a lot of guys just don't have the nuts to try. If we swing the power into the women's side of the court and they approach, they're naturally going to only choose the best-looking guys, and those guys aren't exactly going to be turning hot women away. Which will make the market a bit tougher.

Besides, I personally prefer traditional women. And that means women that don't throw themselves at guys they find attractive. This behavior just doesn't seem feminine to me. I tend to like the innocent, meek types though.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #6

I'm lazy and would rather women approach me. It happens when you create the bubble. It immediately shows their intent and you hold the frame when they come to you. They are qualifying. My go to line is "I'm talking, go sit down and I'll be with you in a minute." Time re-frame and call them back at your convenience.

Teaching girls pickup keeps the ball in your court.

Post: #7

I would find it awesome if more girls did approaches.

Remember the person who cares least has the most power. We're already seeing it today. Just get jacked and dress well!

Post: #8

First off, this guy's material is a sales pitch.

I think American culture is in an unstable transition phase, and has gotten to be something completely unlike any other culture in the world. Imagine how quickly you would get the shit beat out of you in some cultures if you were teaching other dudes' sisters and daughters how to use sexual innuendo to pick up dudes.

Post: #9

This is obviously a joke.. you can't teach pick up to women.. If guys want to fuck them they don't need to say anything, and if guys don't want to fuck them then there is nothing they can say. Guys are logical, left-brained, so there isn't much emotional convincing that can be done

Post: #10

At first I thought:

Women have the easiest game. They can just walk up to a guy, tell him "let's fuck", and considering the number of lonely horny dogs.....one of them will eventually say yes.

BUT what if a 3/4/5/6 would want to a "dr. house" or "beckham" type of guy that's out of their league.

Then yeah....they would need to learn game 'cause those guys won't bang anything that moves. Except Weiner, that guy would bang a rock.

Post: #11

(08-24-2013 07:47 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(08-24-2013 07:08 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  I think there's money to be made in teaching women how to pickup men. I know a lot of attractive girls that suffer from approach anxiety. It's a new concept for them, as the traditional roles have changed. Men aren't doing it anymore.

I don't know if it's exactly a good thing for women to overcome approach anxiety. One of the reasons it's possible to pull hot women for guys with average looks and a dose of game is because a lot of guys just don't have the nuts to try. If we swing the power into the women's side of the court and they approach, they're naturally going to only choose the best-looking guys, and those guys aren't exactly going to be turning hot women away. Which will make the market a bit tougher.

Nailed it, I completely agree. If you're already approaching, having women approach is only going to help if you fall in a woman's top 5% of men at the bar. At any given bar, 80-100% of the men are willing to go home with a girl that night. For women, that figure could be anywhere from 0 to 50%. There's always going to be that mismatch, where decent women are always assured of having several men to choose from.

Plus if a girl wants anything more than a fuck buddy, approaching could be hugely counter-productive.

The video was pretty hilarious. "I love getting wet." lol'ed at that one. Is she Filipino?

Post: #12

The advert trailer I got was for Red Lobster...enough said.

Post: #13

An underdiscussed and underappreciated player skill is how to handle a girl's approach

If any of you guys aren't getting approached fairly regularly by girls that tells you that you need to work on your style, body language, fitness and demeanor-at least one of those elements.

It won't happen every night, but it should happen often enough that you're not surprised by it-I would estimate I get approached perhaps 50- 60% of the nights I go out and by no means are all these girls unattractive-just last week I was opened by a blonde 8 half my age who ultimately did a smooth number close on me.I have been opened multiple times in one night.

But just because a girl approached you in no way means that she is a slam dunk , she is merely being more bold in giving you the opportunity to game her than the typical girl who will just shoot you a look or stand near you

As Ali says-the most important thing is to hold your frame. If you act eager, or flustered, or bashful, or aggressive you’ve blown it

Stay calm and confident, and don’t act too invested in the conversation, and subtly make her demonstrate why she is worthy of you talking to her. Then game as normal

Post: #14

Well, this shit has come full circle. Women now want to learn to approach men! HA!

I don't know how I feel about this. There are the points brought up by BeyondBorders and Basilransom, but there is also the issue of being hit on by fatties & uglies. Hot chicks, by and large, don't really need to approach guys. When they go out, they get approached like crazy. The girls in most need of this are fatties and uglies. This is not good. Last thing I need are a bunch of fatties and uglies fucking up my night by acting as additional barriers to getting what I want.

Post: #15

(08-24-2013 08:31 PM)MrXY Wrote:  An underdiscussed and underappreciated player skill is how to handle a girl's approach

If any of you guys aren't getting approached fairly regularly by girls that tells you that you need to work on your style, body language, fitness and demeanor-at least one of those elements.

It won't happen every night, but it should happen often enough that you're not surprised by it-I would estimate I get approached perhaps 50- 60% of the nights I go out and by no means are all these girls unattractive-just last week I was opened by a blonde 8 half my age who ultimately did a smooth number close on me.I have been opened multiple times in one night.

But just because a girl approached you in no way means that she is a slam dunk , she is merely being more bold in giving you the opportunity to game her than the typical girl who will just shoot you a look or stand near you

As Ali says-the most important thing is to hold your frame. If you act eager, or flustered, or bashful, or aggressive you’ve blown it

Stay calm and confident, and don’t act too invested in the conversation, and subtly make her demonstrate why she is worthy of you talking to her. Then game as normal

This is a big part of my game. Since I'm lazy and usually very busy with work, dedicating enough time to cold approaches to ensure a steady stream of pussy is inconvenient.

Rather, I usually focus on create a passive stream by letting the ladies do a lot of the work.

For me, this means that I:

*Concentrate on quickly detecting interested women.
*Making myself available to be approached.
*Take over the contact as soon as they approach to ensure that it doesn't become uncomfortable for them (and cause them to leave)
*Having the "right" look.
*Usually social game to my advantage -- look like I'm (1) the leader of the group I'm with and (2) part of a totally fun group of people.

Post: #16

Pretty sure this is a dupe; I vaguely remember reading about this twerp Mehow on RVF a while ago. Pretty obvious that the guy is trying to reinvent himself because the PUA market is already bursting to saturation with Mystery and RSD ripoffs. Check this video from a few years when he was still a regular PUA:





Look at his mannerisms, how jerky and unnerved he looks. This guy is a PUA coach? I wouldn't trust him with the time, let alone for advice on how to get girls.

One thing I'll give the guy credit for is that he finally got rid of that horrifying bulbous dome combover look. Also looks like he got a chin implant (someone else on RVF pointed this out I think). Nothing to see here, move along.

Post: #17

He probably hired a PR agency and is paying for production of the videos out of pocket.

IOW, it's a marketing gimmick.

Red pill = recognizing that "news" and "lifestyle stuff" is all marketing manufactured by a PR agency somewhere and is not real.

Post: #18

(08-25-2013 04:06 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  He probably hired a PR agency and is paying for production of the videos out of pocket.

IOW, it's a marketing gimmick.

Red pill = recognizing that "news" and "lifestyle stuff" is all marketing manufactured by a PR agency somewhere and is not real.

How much money did Mehow make in the PUA business?

He has a lot of videos on Yahoo Screen that focus on "girl game", and they look like they are co-sponsored by Yahoo:

http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/?ei...en&q=mehow

^I don't think he bankrolled these vids. My guess is he fooled some middle-aged producer at Yahoo Screen to bankroll his "girl game" series by playing up his pick-up artist creds.

Post: #19

There are lots of guys in the PUA, Internet Marketing, and Multi-Level Marketing spaces with high five figure credit card debt.

You can fool a lot of fools by putting things on a credit card. People believe that what they see is reality. If you drive a BMW, people think you're rich even though you can lease a BMW for $390.

What does "co-sponsored" even mean?

Post: #20

(08-25-2013 04:44 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  There are lots of guys in the PUA, Internet Marketing, and Multi-Level Marketing spaces with high five figure credit card debt.

You can fool a lot of fools by putting things on a credit card. People believe that what they see is reality. If you drive a BMW, people think you're rich even though you can lease a BMW for $390.

What does "co-sponsored" even mean?

It means it is a series on Yahoo Screen. I am sticking with my initial assessment: Mehow got a producer of Yahoo Screen to bankroll his venture since this is a series on Yahoo Screen. The videos are legit looking and are featured on Yahoo Screen.

Post: #21

The vid the OP posted is fake; that's not a real client she's a hired model acting out how to pick up guys.

A girl that hot would never approach men.

Fact of the matter is that "Girl Game" will NEVER be popular, because women are aren't turned on by men they need to approach. A man's behavior is a major component of her attraction for him, and seeing a guy deliver a smooth approach makes them excited in ways approaching a guy herself could never do.

Post: #22

(08-25-2013 02:00 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(08-24-2013 08:31 PM)MrXY Wrote:  An underdiscussed and underappreciated player skill is how to handle a girl's approach

If any of you guys aren't getting approached fairly regularly by girls that tells you that you need to work on your style, body language, fitness and demeanor-at least one of those elements.

It won't happen every night, but it should happen often enough that you're not surprised by it-I would estimate I get approached perhaps 50- 60% of the nights I go out and by no means are all these girls unattractive-just last week I was opened by a blonde 8 half my age who ultimately did a smooth number close on me.I have been opened multiple times in one night.

But just because a girl approached you in no way means that she is a slam dunk , she is merely being more bold in giving you the opportunity to game her than the typical girl who will just shoot you a look or stand near you

As Ali says-the most important thing is to hold your frame. If you act eager, or flustered, or bashful, or aggressive you’ve blown it

Stay calm and confident, and don’t act too invested in the conversation, and subtly make her demonstrate why she is worthy of you talking to her. Then game as normal

This is a big part of my game. Since I'm lazy and usually very busy with work, dedicating enough time to cold approaches to ensure a steady stream of pussy is inconvenient.

Rather, I usually focus on create a passive stream by letting the ladies do a lot of the work.

For me, this means that I:

*Concentrate on quickly detecting interested women.
*Making myself available to be approached.
*Take over the contact as soon as they approach to ensure that it doesn't become uncomfortable for them (and cause them to leave)
*Having the "right" look.
*Usually social game to my advantage -- look like I'm (1) the leader of the group I'm with and (2) part of a totally fun group of people.

How are you guys defining "approach"? Because to me this sounds like a lot of bullshit, women do not approach like men do. They do not go up to you with an opener, at most you get an approach invitation.

Post: #23

(08-25-2013 05:40 PM)Samseau Wrote:  The vid the OP posted is fake; that's not a real client she's a hired model acting out how to pick up guys.

A girl that hot would never approach men.

Yep. The videos by Mehow are an episodic series for Yahoo Screen.

Still, these videoes are sending the wrong message to women since they are trying to convince female viewers that they can use male pick-up game.

Post: #24

(08-25-2013 05:41 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(08-25-2013 02:00 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(08-24-2013 08:31 PM)MrXY Wrote:  An underdiscussed and underappreciated player skill is how to handle a girl's approach

If any of you guys aren't getting approached fairly regularly by girls that tells you that you need to work on your style, body language, fitness and demeanor-at least one of those elements.

It won't happen every night, but it should happen often enough that you're not surprised by it-I would estimate I get approached perhaps 50- 60% of the nights I go out and by no means are all these girls unattractive-just last week I was opened by a blonde 8 half my age who ultimately did a smooth number close on me.I have been opened multiple times in one night.

But just because a girl approached you in no way means that she is a slam dunk , she is merely being more bold in giving you the opportunity to game her than the typical girl who will just shoot you a look or stand near you

As Ali says-the most important thing is to hold your frame. If you act eager, or flustered, or bashful, or aggressive you’ve blown it

Stay calm and confident, and don’t act too invested in the conversation, and subtly make her demonstrate why she is worthy of you talking to her. Then game as normal

This is a big part of my game. Since I'm lazy and usually very busy with work, dedicating enough time to cold approaches to ensure a steady stream of pussy is inconvenient.

Rather, I usually focus on create a passive stream by letting the ladies do a lot of the work.

For me, this means that I:

*Concentrate on quickly detecting interested women.
*Making myself available to be approached.
*Take over the contact as soon as they approach to ensure that it doesn't become uncomfortable for them (and cause them to leave)
*Having the "right" look.
*Usually social game to my advantage -- look like I'm (1) the leader of the group I'm with and (2) part of a totally fun group of people.

How are you guys defining "approach"? Because to me this sounds like a lot of bullshit, women do not approach like men do. They do not go up to you with an opener, at most you get an approach invitation.

My usual wing has a solid game of framing it in such a way that he either gets approached by the girl, or their girl friends. And he holds his frame throught to the sack... it's like natural for him.