Post: #1

Surprise, surprise.

This just goes to show that, like many of us would assert, there are more differences between nurturing-based jobs and masculine jobs than meet the eye. A job isn't just a job, in other words, it affects your home- and romantic-life--how you deal with the opposite sex. It then, in turn, affects how women perceive you as a potential mate, and how they will take advantage of your weakness.

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Quote:Male nurses, teachers do more housework than other guys
Martha C. White NBC News contributor

Ladies, if you want a Prince Charming who’s willing to pick up the vacuum cleaner and the laundry basket, you might want to look for one in nurse’s scrubs or with finger-paint handprints on his pants.

New research finds that men who work in traditionally female fields, such as preschool teachers, nurses, secretaries, do more housework than other men.

“Men who move to a more female job increase their housework,” said Elizabeth Aura McClintock, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Notre Dame and the author of the study. Married men or those living with a girlfriend who work in traditionally female-dominated fields do about 25 percent more housework than those who work in more stereotypically masculine fields.

A big reason for the discrepancy has to do with how desirable men in typically “feminine” jobs are as partners, McClintock said. “Essentially, they feel insecure about their options outside the marriage,” she said.

“Men who work in female-dominated jobs have a harder time getting married … presumably because they suffer a lot of stigma,” McClintock said. “So he’s kind of got to step up to the plate” and overcompensate when it comes to pitching in around the house.

“She seems to recognize that she’s in a stronger position, too,” McClintock said of the women married to those nurses and nannies. Women whose husbands or partners work in these types of jobs do less housework than their counterparts who have husbands in more stereotypically male vocations.

The caveat here, though, is that it’s still women who do most of the house cleaning: Men working in professions where women make up 75 percent or more of the labor pool do the most housework, with single men logging nine hours a week and married or co-habitating men coming in just below that.

But overall, women spend a little less than 18 hours a week on household chores.

McClintock said another driver, although it that applies mostly to men who are already married or in a relationship, is what the paper terms “occupational embeddedness.” In lay terms, this means that men who work surrounded by women are more empathetic of their efforts to achieve a work-life balance, juggling job duties with the unpaid work waiting for them when they get home.

“I would like to hope they do get a little bit more enlightened,” she said.

Post: #2

Is there a study on how much house work mechanics do and how it correlates to the amount of pussy they get?

Post: #3

There's also a study how men that do housework also get less sex from their girlfriend/wife.

lol.

Post: #4

Yeah for the average dude.

You put a red piller in a female dominated environment and it will be different.

I know two male nurses who are crushing pussy in and out of the hospital.

Post: #5

I think teaching used to be a very honorable, masculine profession. One of my favorite teachers in high school was a James Escalante, Stand and Deliver-style teacher, who coddled no one and made sure we mastered the material. Also in the past, from the transition from peacetime after WWI and WWII, decommissioned military members went to teaching in boarding schools in Europe, like in Scotland and England, and the results were a few very well-educated generations.

Post: #6

If there ever was a clear example of the feminine imperative and the idea the media largely exists to cater to female desires - it is the concept of household chores.

It never is questioned as to who sets the standards - it is assumed the woman does and the male needs to comform.

Notice how the negotiation goes - woman standard will be X and Y amounts of hours are needed to meet X. Do most men have the hand to say the standard needs to be A? No.

In the need to pretend they are having equal relationships, they complain men are pulling their weight, but they set the standard! Imagine if a man said sex four times a week is the standard and a woman only wanting it twice isn't pulling her weight.

With critiques about women & media gaining more mainstream appeal, it is interesting to see how women spin it to make them feel good. Just like its trashy behavior for blacks that becomes artsy, self-expression for whites, any potentially negative behavior of women has to be spun as a positive or empowering somehow.

"Well, we set the standard because we care more about our families."

"We set the standard because we have better taste."

Won't framed throught themselves, will be framed as elevating women over men.

Post: #7

My concern with this study is that it doesn't tell us which way the causation runs. Do men do more housework because they're in female-dominated professions, or do they go into these professions because they're the kind of men who are inclined to do more housework? I suspect there's some of both at work but I'd actually lean more towards the second explanation.

Post: #8

I actually like washing dishes. I find it therapeutic. Is anyone else like this?

Post: #9

@Samseau
I'm the same way with cleaning my bathroom.

I judge women by how clean their bathroom is.
Anyone else like that?

Post: #10

To be fair, nurses do get days off depending on how their shifts are arranged and teachers have more flexible hours, so they have more time to get house chores done, regardless of gender. It's easier to clean the house if you have an afternoon off. I think people read too much into this.

Post: #11

First phlebotomist I had was male nurse. He did a great job and drew a tiger on the tape he used to secure the gauze (I was 10).

Male high school teacher took me aside and told me how I could get out of Hellhole hometown and have a life despite no parent support and learning disabilities.

Nurse = brighten kids' days
Teacher = hero

Post: #12

(08-16-2013 02:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I actually like washing dishes. I find it therapeutic. Is anyone else like this?

Yep. I actually like cleaning, period. It's just another form of manual labor for me which I enjoy. There's a difference in taking pride in maintaining a clean household that belongs to you, and doing it because of some old battleaxe that's bitching you into doing it.

It's just another form of discipline. It's why there's room cleaning procedures in the military. Bed made, boots shined, clean shaven.

Think about your mental state if you walk out of the house and there's dirty laundry on the floor, dirty dishes in the sink, bed's all messed up. Now think about walking out of a clean house, knowing you have peace and order waiting for you when you get home. Which makes you feel better about leaving the house?

Post: #13

(08-16-2013 03:51 PM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  To be fair, nurses do get days off depending on how their shifts are arranged and teachers have more flexible hours, so they have more time to get house chores done, regardless of gender. It's easier to clean the house if you have an afternoon off. I think people read too much into this.

Correct. The way to determine the strength of the causal connection is to compare nurses and teachers to stereotypically masculine fields that also feature flexible shift scheduling, like firefighters and oil rig workers. I suspect this study is rife with masculine jobs like "manager," "doctor," "consultant," or "executive," where the husband has a lot less inclination to clean after spending 60 hours at the office each week and taking work home in the evenings.

Post: #14

Will add this article to this thread also:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/more-chores-...rce-242815

The more household chores a man does, the more likely his wife is to lose interest in him sexually.